Best way to make a stripper regain respect for you,when you've turned into a PL

Wasn't there another TUSCLer that went by brotherhood a while back? Pretty sure it wasn't this guy. The short answer is respect isn't really the issue here. What you really want to know is how to get her to hop to like she used to when you reach out. The question you should really ask is "why..?".

It's your money, but...3,200.00 divided by 300 (per session), you should have entered her vagina (with your swinging richard) 10.66 times.

Strippers think you are a PL for just being in the club. You won't reverse #1's attitude. Ignore #1 when you go to the club, then spend a shit ton of money on #2 and make #1 jealous. She'll learn to not take you for granted.

I would just move on there are plenty of fish in the sea.

Just wondering what city is this in?

So was it "8 or 8" times? Anyway, step one is to stop acting like a PL (I'm a PL myself and even I find your behavior embarrassing). Repeat after me, "I will not buy strippers flowers and jewelry, I will not buy strippers flowers and jewelry..."

I feel your pain, brother. Don't listen to all of these naysayers - sometimes gaining her respect takes work. Nobody likes a quitter!

Here are a few things that you might do to let her know that you are worthy of respect:

1. Send flowers and jewelry to the club when you cannot be in town.

2. Have her house fees automatically debited from your card. This will keep you in her mind every time she ends a shift and doesn't have to pony up to the club.

3. Set up automatic bank checks for her. I like a monthly approach but some feel that weekly is more manageable for them.

4. Keep in touch often. If she doesn't answer her phone, leave her nice voicemails. I like to draw lines from Lord Byron but opinions vary on this.

5. Buy her a car or make her car payments. You will always be in her thoughts when she gets into the car to go somewhere.

Now if these things still do not work and you want to REALLY SHOW HER THAT YOU ARE WORTHY OF RESPECT, you can also try these approaches:

6. Find out where she lives and have gifts sent to her house. This shows that you are a man who is truly interested and one that takes initiative.

7. Leave sweet notes of support and encouragement on her windshield or under the door to her house/apartment/trailer. IMHO, this shows that you are both determined AND thoughtful.

8. Find out who her landlord is and pay her rent directly.

9. Find out where her kids go to school and make direct payments to their school lunch accounts. Nothing touches a mother's heart like a nice guy taking an interest in her children.

Now some girls, particularly when they don't yet understand that a guy is worthy of respect, do knee-jerk things like obtaining a restraining order when he first starts truly showing her his worth. Don't be deterred! If a silly piece of paper stops you from showing her that you are worthy of respect, then she was right in the first place.

Good luck and keep us posted!

rick-ROFLMFAO

Uh, spew warnings, please? My phone warranty doesn't cover moisture damage, not even about to be swallowed coffee.

Having teetered on the edge of pathetic loserdom myself once or twice (but with not such significant financial investment), I get where you're coming from. Let's look at some concepts, and then I will give my humble, opinionated, direct answer to your question, "What's the best way to make a stripper regain respect for you,when you've turned into a PL in her eyes?"
What helped me was to recognize that we're really talking about two worlds - two dimensions - two...PLAYGROUNDS! Yeah, playgrounds! Each with their own set of rules. I think we would all agree, the strip club world is business. The $3700 worth of stuff is her paycheck. Now I'm not saying that there was not real affection between the two of you, or that there was. I'm just saying that in that playground, that's what cash/gifts are. Own it. In the other playground (the real world), all the good talks, the texts, the gifts, etc are (or SHOULD be) all different ways to express your love. "Love" being that you want the best for her, even if it costs you. In THAT playground, there are no strings attached to these things, and the giver does so hopefully with the understanding that there might be no reciprocation. In that playground, respect, concern, admiration...love...has to grow and should grow without the financial and material gifts.
It sounds like the problem is, you took the rules of one playground and applied them to the other. It doesn't work.
So to your question, this is what I think you should DO. First, within yourself, embrace the fact that dancer 1 owes you nothing - that the money and gifts were all given in the playground where these things are merely a paycheck. Write it off, and close the books.
Next, get real about what you want. Is it respect? Or is it to impress? They're not the same thing. Your gifts no doubt impressed her. Respect is different, and it's a character thing. Settle that issue.
Then finally, have an honest discussion with dancer 1. If your were seeking to impress her, tell her that. If you were really wanting to do something good for her, tell her that. If you were trying to express love, tell her that. But be honest, man! Clearly lay it out - this is what you did, this is why you did it, you are now resetting to "zero", and this is what you would like to see happen (like continue in this playground with a very good business relationship, or move it to the other playground). Get those things settled and clearly communicate them to her respectfully and I believe that she will respect you. That does not mean that she's going to do what you want, and you need to recognize that and accept it. But maybe she'll respect you.

OP: "Best way to make a stripper regain respect for you"

Try what MisterGay does. Come onto TUSCL loudly proclaiming your respect for whores and charging at the windmills of the right wing establishment. Whores love guys who respect them and will make a stand for them on the internet. They also love liberal crusaders.

$3,700 is a lot of dough. If you're looking for a significant other, there are many canidates about who would cost far less to wine & dine. They may not be as hot as a stripper trying to capitalize on her youth and looks, but the long-term return could prove to be substantially more rewarding.

Wow, $3700, now that's a PL

i have to ask myself if the original poster is for real?!

if so..
@ brotherhood.. dude you never had her respect to begin with!
she was just playing you for your money.. and no offense meant but spending $3700.00 on her in the club over 4 days tells me that you have alot more money than brains!

face it.. even if you do get her to change her attitude about you it will never be sincere and will only last as long as the money flows freely. and the only reason the other stripper is hitting on you is because she wants to swim in your river of free flowing dollars.

Fuck the stripper, respect regained.

All of you pessimists are just a bunch of jaded misogynists. Brother came here with a real question and he obviously has feelings for this woman, who is a human being like anyone else.

My brother, you have started down the road of gaining true respect, but the difficult part of the journey now begins.

You have made it past the first stage: personal circle admittance.

The next stage, relationship definement, is always the toughest IMO. You must find a way to allow her to see you for the gift that you truly are.

Remember that she is naturally jaded because of what she deals with in this life. If you do anything to reinforce her belief that you are like those other nasty guys then you will have lost any chance with her, so trying to "turn the tables" will only drive her away. You must woo her, not attack her. Show your gentle and patient side and give her the time, attention, and, yes, tribute that she needs to feel good about herself.

$3700 was a good start and brought you to the first stage, but you may have to do much more before you overcome her natural defenses. She has likely been hurt a lot in this life, which may be why she is stripping for a living in the first place. It may take a great deal of effort on your part to pierce the veil of bitterness and despair in order for her to you for what you truly are. You may actually be in a rare position to save someone, a place that many of us strive for but few of us achieve.

With a lot of work, you may be one of the lucky few who gets to the third stage: relationship advancement and fulfillment.

Good luck!

The only chance you have is after she leaves the business and starts getting her head on straight about relating to men.

Realize this might go on until she is 30. You need to figure out if you really want to invest YOUR years into this. Those years might be into something that is far more emotionally & sexually rewarding and drama free.

^hmmm - I guess the "tongue-in-cheek" nature of my last post really didn't come through ;)

The first one was obviously over the top, but the second was like a Steve Martin skit. Completely deadpan, and completely absurd. I think it was just too subtle. :)

Rick, you probably put the poor guy on the floor ...

lol CT.

Georg, I will have to work on the delivery some more. I was admittedly trying to emulate DickJohnson who, for some strange reason, came to mind as I read the first post.

rick, you failed. I spotted the sarcasm but many of us including me know your points were valid happenings.

"rick, you failed." Damn. Well there is always the next time ;)

I suppose there is always a grain of truth in every cliche, including the ones about strippers. The point of the posts was to make fun of the cliches about strippers as well as the cliched beliefs of PLs about how to earn their affections.

There are exceptions to every rule, but by and large the lioness is still a lioness regardless of what made her that way. And the PL will always be such to her, and inevitably the more he tries to gain her affection the more he digs further into that mental category. Anything else is usually smoke in the breaze.

Ok, the real answer is: Get in shape, become rich, get an important job, dress well, don't spend money on strippers other than a few bucks recreationally a couple times a year (go with buddies when you do go), date plenty of women besides strippers. If you can get all that down the strippers should be all over you. By that poing, however, you'll probably have zero interest in them. GL!

Dougster sums it up pretty well!

rick your delivery in your 2nd post was just fine.

Thanks troop.

Doug and samsung: Success IRL and messing with strippers are two very different animals.

I have a sexy wife (who is even great in bed), own businesses and have a very respectable life (church, private schools for the kids, blah blah). The reason I do what I do involves wanting to mess with girls 10-15 years younger than me and the general seedy fun of it.

I would have no interest in anything serious with a stripper, most of whom are unsuited to running a normal household. Similarly, most dancers have no interest in being Betty Crocker and instead gravitate towards destructive fuck ups or pathetic losers who are ok with their girlfriends/wives grinding on other mens' penises.

Better just to dip in and out as the need arises ;)

Rick: Don't confuse a stripper dating some PL/deadbeat/fuck up with her respecting him. She probably does not. It's just all she thinks she can get or deserves.

Doug, I have met thos types and agree to some extent, but have also encountered others who know that they are hot and smart enough to snag a big fish but just don't want that life - they enjoy having their own money and the freedom that dancing gives them. However, either personality type is not going to gravitate towards a "normal" lifestyle, so they find guys that can cope with what they do.

Of course in this discussion we completely leave out the lesbians and manhaters, which are well represented in the dancer community, but there it is.

Rick: I don't know, man. If I think back to all the strippers I've known, maybe a half dozen I can see being able to snag the big fish. Assuming I'm not being naive here about big fish wanting more than trophy women.