Comments by basictoken

Hank - I think you may have hit the nail on the head. Over definitely scaled back the VIP partying. I'm still in control thankfully. Where do I deposit my 2 cents

Ok. I'm curious. Who is "Christina" and what is strip tok. To my knowledge I've never encountered any of the girls on that sub. Most seem genuinely nice provided I understand the boundaries and that it is, in fact, all just a fantasy n

I have used club ATMsniccasionally but the fees have been low and I haven’t really worried about it

How good is the vip experience?

Here in Dallas $20 dances are still common but some more upscale clubs are pushing $40 or 3 for $100. In that case I’m a lot more selective but it does feel riskier.

That sounds about right. I wouldn’t say BD is low on quality they just have a high quantity. Not all are high quality but some are. I’ve not been to The Lodge so I can’t compare. The Men’s Club is worth a visit but can be slow at times

@Estafador. No updates. Have neither seen her nor heard from her

@rickdugan - I see what you’re saying, but as someone who did contract/freelance work for 20 years, you learn quickly that nothing is guaranteed and you have to be able to take disappointments and miscommunication with a bit of grace or you’ll find yourself out of work eventually. There was a previous issue when I did a room with her where she flipped out over text when she saw me doing a room with someone else on a day she claimed she wasn’t going to be at the club. I even went so far as to do another room with her later that night. She then acted like nothing ever happened. But really, she had no business getting upset then either. There’s no exclusivity and as far as I knew she wasn’t even going to be there. When we did OTC. She initially told me she “could work with” what I offered her, then a few days later got angry when I reminded her what we agreed on claiming it should be more. I gave her the chance to back out but she eventually accepted. So this isn’t really the first time this sort of behavior has happened. I get what you’re saying, and maybe i didnt understand that agreeing to meet her at the club on that night automatically meant getting VIP (I never mentioned it). Im also more than happy to save my money and stay home if there is going to be this constant increasing expectation of more money and I can’t just enjoy an evening out without the drama. If a dancer wants to act like that then maybe they don’t need my money that bad anyway.

^^^ that is what I said

Yea I agree. I fell for it once. Laying low this time. Literally hundreds of hit strippers out there

I'll just move on. If she wants to reach out to me, she can, but I'm not making any attempts. There are lots of other girls out there willing to do rooms and OTC. The advice here is appreciated, and I know that my story may sound a bit confusing. There are plenty of red flags here that I'm seeing.

"Why did you give her more for last weeks vip." I'm pretty new to VIP and OTC and I probably got suckered by thinking with the wrong head. I paid for the room already with a previous girl and had two hours with her. I still had the room all night so I invited the girl in question up into the room. I paid her the agreed upon fee, that went to her. She then asked for a bit more to make up for a room she supposedly turned down with another customer. I agreed, probably because of the game she played with me earlier that evening with another girl, and like I said, looking back on it, I got suckered. She got jealous that I was in a room with someone else anyway. I chalked it up to a misunderstanding. But this latest episode that I'm posting about really bothered me.

“ So maybe the issue was she left another opportunity in vip out of loyalty to you? ” that’s what it sounds like but I never promised her a vip session. Last weeks vip was spontaneous and I took care of her above what she initially asked for when she asked for more. Either way her reaction was pretty shocking. I left the club after that because it was just uncomfortable. Went to another club and had a great time.

“ Doesn’t seem like there’s anything to figure out, she’s nuts, you can do better, this ain’t high school dating, it’s your money that fuels the interaction, get what you want. I wouldn’t waste my time or energy trying to make sense out of it.” This seems to be the best interpretation. I’ll be back at the club soon. Other than that I’m not texting her or acknowledging anything unless she wants to come to me and ask. Keep in mind the last time I did vip with her it was after I did vip with two other girls on a day she told me she wasn’t going to be there. Somehow she took offense to it.

@Hank Moody - I think she was just assuming I’d do VIP and as another poster suggested, considered it lost money when I told her no even though there was no guarantee. In her mind she expected it

“Had she not stormed off I still would’ve dropped a couple hundred bucks on her and she would’ve had plenty of time to go see her other client in VIP. ” Wasnt she already done with the VIP since she was offering to do a VIP with you? ———————- Well, apparently she was in VIP with someone else. I knew she was meeting another customer but had no idea for how long or if they were doing VIP. I forget exactly what she said, but as soon as I told her, I wasn’t doing VIP she walked back in the direction of the VIP rooms.

Rick - Yes. Same girl. And the es cheaper otc. She never mentioned vip when I texted her earlier. Just when I showed up at the club

Maybe if some of them were more willing to do dances they would make some of that money back. Instead they try to push everyone into VIP immediately.

To clarify the dances were all topless. I didn’t ask about the VIP rooms so I don’t know the cost

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Oversaturation is right. Even my regular club, which is a big one, seems over saturated compared to 10 years ago

I see what you mean. I don’t doubt they do that with all customers regardless of background!

Not capitalizing every word you type.

Thanks appreciate it. The daty/fingering lasted quite a while. There was no kissing though. So who knows. Either way it was fun

DATY and Fingering - Yes. Is that evidence of there being/not being a pimp in the picture?