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2 years ago
Tetradon that will smith is interesting cause actually a lot of leftists or social justice types flip flopped on it. They held the view that if a white man had insulted will smith the slap would be justified but because chris rock said it, it was unjustified.
I wonder if Icee would still think it was justifiable if it was a white guy getting his wife insulted by chris rock who then slapped him? Icees viewpoint is different than the mainstream leftist viewpoint on rock vs smith but his interpretation still leaves room for a racial flip flop of his own.
This kind of stuff is what makes me rethink gun control, all these people desperate to defend the honor of something. Either themselves or a wife or a race or other cause.
In one thread Icee said ROBs are justifiable to scam or mislead people because tricks shouldn’t be looking for hookers at a strip club. If a dancer offers sexual services or extras either itc or otc he said they’re desperate, hoes, dumb and unable to hustle. If a ROB promises extras itc or otc, and takes money but doesnt deliver, he considers that hustling, finessing, and all sorts of other commendable remarks. the actual hoe is bad and dumb and desperate whereas the thief is commended.
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2 years ago
Some of the clubs here are cheap with AC. Even back in march dancers were sweaty. If it’s too warm the problem becomes how many customers were sweaty and sweated on the dancer.
With an escort she’s in a chilled hotel room all day and hopefully showering after each client too. Dancers dont have the luxury of showering after stage or clients.
If it’s the dancers own sweat it’s not a big deal you can sniff it and even taste it. Other people’s sweat mixed in it becomes gross.
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2 years ago
Icee youre doing the blame whitey game. And you extend it further to the blame trick game. No matter what a dancer does to a trick youll say its justifiable.
Cops and the kkk killed people of different races backgrounds etc but youll sau they only killed one race or only non white minorities.
Slavery was practiced by tons of cultures but youll say only whites did it.
Anything a dancer or non white person does is justifiable. And maybe you extend it to politics too, maybe democrats are always justified. Or maybe all politicians are biased in favor of whites or something
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2 years ago
Icee are you saying 25 is cacaplop?
And icee my post was basically saying you shouldn’t think in a concrete way but you shift and say i havent grown out of concrete thinking.
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2 years ago
Icee I didnt defend the KKK, on the other hand you’re attempting to dehumanize people who aren’t minority races. I pointed out that the KKK actually killed black people, japanese people, and even irish and italian people, and even english white people who were republican.
Just like cops today kill people of several different races.
And just like how, people of different races were enslaved, and they were enslaved by people of different races and for different reasons.
You don’t consider some races and republicans to be human, which is why you deny history and deny current events and claim cops only kill minorities and that the KKK only killed non white minorities.
Your morals and values flip flop depending on which race is doing what.
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2 years ago
Just like healthcare once government starts funding and supporting colleges, quality goes down and prices go up. If the colleges are getting guaranteed money, they can just charge more and have trash quality. No need to perform well when money is guaranteed. Even people and dancers work that way.
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2 years ago
Iirc the KKK targeted and killed italians, irish people, japanese, black people and republicans of any race including English white. So it wasn’t really even a white supremacist group it was specifically a hardcore democrat, english-white supremacist group. Irish and Italian are considered white now, but to an English white man theyre still foreign and different just like Asian and Black people.
But just like the modern day police killing statistics people will only focus in on specific races and ignore others.
Slavery was practiced all around the world and was actually used as a form of punishment for crimes as well as a form of payment for people who owed debts they couldn’t pay.
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2 years ago
Lol not true? So youre saying all hookers and strippers fuck any guy with money? Theres no strippers only doing OTC with a few guys at a time?
There are many strippers who are in fact selective about who they do otc with. So yes you are special if a stripper is only doing otc with you and noone else
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2 years ago
Icee you can define it as hooker but even so your comment of hookers not being selective is untrue.
Theres hookers who only take on a couple clients at a time and prefer long term clients.
Theres sugar baby hookers who do the same.
Then there’s escorts and actual hookers who will bang 10 different guys everyday.
So some hookers are very selective
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2 years ago
How do you know its mate sjg?
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2 years ago
Icee this is why you hate on so many people on the site? You accuse everyone of being tricks, robs, RILs etc. all this time you were making those hateful comments because of your own RIL experience. I cant believe what i have seen and learned today!
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2 years ago
Icee an OTC stripper isnt always a hooker.
Some strippers only do OTC with someone they have a connection with, or someone disease free or someone they think wont start drama or etc or someone they’re attracted to.
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2 years ago
What made you pay top dollar for her instead of going on tryst or eros and getting someone hot for $500 or whatever? Are you factoring personality or connection into it instead of just the factors of price and looks?
Were you looking for a relationship with that dancer?
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2 years ago
Wow Icee this is crazy stuff! I wasn’t aware you had posted things like this. I thought you’re picking up lots of strippers?
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2 years ago
SJG I was speaking more generally
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2 years ago
Rick they can be greedy and lustful and all that, those aren’t inherently immoral things to be those are just socially unacceptable and against some religious views. But stealing and scamming are on a whole other level of immorality. Most dancers I’ve came across aren’t scammers on the level of offering xyz in a dance and not following through. Most havent pulled the tip scam either (saying things like 50% of dance price is required as a tip). Most havent even demanded tips or gotten angry over not being tipped.
Even if the dancer isnt directly robbing or scamming you, if you’re aware she’s a ROBer or finesser and still continue to see her and give her money, you’re helping to finance a thief and financing evil.
And yes I wouldn’t want to get dances or otc with someone who I suspect would want to rob my watch or cash if she found me fallen asleep somewhere. I wouldn’t assume her simply being an escort or stripper means that she would be willing to do that. There’s clues that can give it away. Like if she admits to having shoplifting charges or brags about finessing other clients.
Some of these people are engaging in legalized theft. If they promise someone a BJ or any other extra for buying a dance and don’t follow through, they know the clients obviously can’t go around complaining they didn’t get the promised illegal services. Its just like buying or selling drugs off the street, you’re basically out of luck if you get screwed or have to go after the person on your own.
Of course if you’re doing OTC or ITC and youre paying after then you can easily ensure things go smoothly.
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2 years ago
Rick you’ve talked about being a hardcore stoic and an alpha male. Since you have the easiest time getting OTC from all these girls are you sure it’s not your looks and personality that’s genuinely attracting these girls for OTC instead of the ease of obtaining OTC using money as you put it? Since strippers are more selective with OTC than escorts it could mean OTC strippers are genuinely attracted to their clients even if they’re older men?
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2 years ago
RTP if she has charges i imagine none of those were self defense? What rate was she offering OTC for
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2 years ago
Rick I mean generally speaking the outcome of a court case means nothing since the juries are inherently biased in some way and especially biased in modern times. One truly moral person is going to be more objective than millions of biased jury members. It’s good if the jury comes to the correct conclusion but its not guaranteed. Some juries are even threatened or harassed by people in attempts to control them
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2 years ago
Papi chulo why does OTC have a high failure rate? Why is it more complex than being willing to pay?
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2 years ago
Neon what kind of extras were you getting? Were the dances you received worth the money? If the dances in themselves were worth the money then you didn’t lose anything. Were you buying dances and spending a lot in the hopes she would eventually have sex? That isn’t how things work that would just encourage her to keep milking you. That strategy is a recipe for disaster. Simply giving someone gifts or business doesnt mean they’ll give you something in return.
You have to discuss beforehand what the terms are, and pay her for the OTC after you do otc with her. If you pay her first she could scam you.
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2 years ago
It depends how much money she’s bringing to the club, how much customers are spending.
ROBs could bring in a lot of money to the club. But it actually is illegal for a dancer to straight up admit to offering sexual stuff before a dance. Whether they deliver on it or not.
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2 years ago
Rick one dancer told me the first day I met her that she was getting locked up next week for all kinds of theft fraud charges.
It seemed like it could be as you said a pity hustle thing. She did actually get locked up though for a day or more. I think she was hoping people would feel pity or something. Cause she was saying shit like ill be locked up unless someone pays my bail.
Additionally one dancer admitted to me that she would finesse my former friend if he came there. She was bragging about getting some drunk guy to spend $1000 on her but I’m not sure what she did for that 1k.
Rick by scam I mean like if the dancer is a ROB with other clients like promising stuff in dances then not delivering when money is given. Even if she didnt rob or scam you, doing it to other people still shows evil of some sort. And it also means she probably would rob you if she knew she could get away with it.
RTP shooting her baby daddy in the leg? Wtf? How insane can people get. That is laughable. This is what I meant in another thread some of these girls or guys may be small, short and weak but then can pull stuff like that.
So far it’s about 2/15 strippers engaged in scammer behavior in my experience in one club. One was more of a ROB who wouldnt deliver promised things. One would say nonsense like tipping is required and it has to be 50% of the dance price. The whole dance she was asking me if im gonna tip her.
There was 1 out of 10 dancers who went absolutely insane when i didnt tip. There were no extras besides OTP stick shifting for maybe 15 seconds at the end of dance. Most dancers didn’t even ask for a tip or asked for it once in a polite way.
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2 years ago
SJG why are they tough if you treat them like hookers or vending machines? Do they feel bad if you make them feel like a hooker?
SJG why does a big age difference mean you’re more likely to keep the stripper
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2 years ago
SJG what if you just want to sleep with her once or twice? Wont the girlfriend or mistress strategy be misleading to her then?