Comments by a21985 (page 2)

I will say that compared to when I was last being active on the site at this time last year, it seems the troll count has been lowered. *knock on wood*

I like to imagine SJG just uses some of his threads on here simply as a notepad just to capture his own random thoughts before he loses them. Not really meant for discussion, but more as a personal diary...that just happens to be out in the open on a strip club hobbyist site. Doing do makes me less concerned about his wellbeing when I see him having apparent non-sequitur conversations with himself.

Oy, it's gonna take awhile to wash that visual out of mind.

By some onion rings somewhere and buy a beer. Take a swig of the beer after each bite of onion rings. Problem solved.

Tongue action and attitude. I love blowjobs, but its only 50/50 it will do the trick for me. Knowing precisely how to work her tongue and putting on a show for me at the same time is really the only way to get me to pop.

@25 - i hope you didn't lock them up for too long while they were looking through this thread that you coerced them into reading. Gotta make sure they rotate every 12 minutes so all the other customers get their fair share of time with each dancer!

@Icey - you are somewhere on the spectrum, right? Don't really mean that as an insult, I'm just looking into any sort of insight to help understand your thought process. Your approach to any sort of discussion/debate/argument in any thread I've seen you in is extremely reminiscent of someone with ASD. They are generally fairly good at arguing because they enjoy it, they become fixated on whatever point they wish to make (even if it's nonsensical or has been already debunked) and have incredible stamina in not giving up or conceding in any way. If you haven't been diagnosed with ASD and you're not just an unfunny troll, you should really look into speaking with your doctor about it.

When Icey locks down a dancer for more than an average workday = visiting, hanging out and having a good time When a regular pays a dancer to hang out for a few hours = coercive, conniving, and immoral. Haha, what a fucking troll.

Quiet troll.

My former ATF had also mentioned to me that her hanging out with a regular can also make her more appealing to other customers who come in, making it much easier to quickly get someone once I do decide to leave without having to work the floor. I can see that driving the animalistic competitive nature in some men to attain a female who is/was seemingly unattainable because of another male. Certainly many of the comments here reflect that.

@flag - because it wouldn't fit the "have nots" agenda if the question was posed rationally. And I say this as someone who is no longer a regular of anyone, but still has enough common sense/decency not to whine about a dancer spending time with whomever they rather hang out with over a random like me off the street.

@justaguy - that last question sounds like a good topic for a new thread...

Private snapchats are common. As said above, you pay a girl a monthly or even lifetime fee to get access to daily posts (known as stories) with nude pics and vids, sometimes b/g vids as well. A lot of escorts/strippers/camgirls are starting to use one as a way to supplement income.

Icey - I'm not missing the point, because my point is we should all worry about ourselves, rather than obsess about how someone else mongers. And why I agree it'd be nice people if people were decent and not dicks to strippers, you're out there in other threads talking about your obsession with "18" year old dancers and giving dancers drugs. You are the last person to be any sort of moral authority on the right way to deal dancers without being coercive. Go away troll.

"You guys like comparing it to other service providers... Do you get upset and take your business elsewhere if a dr makes you wait to see them? How about leaving if a mechanic doesn't stop working on another car to service yours." Fucking shit, thank you for inadvertantly making my point for me. Case fucking closed. In all those situations, I have the option to walk away or sit down, shut up and wait. I as the customer get to weigh those options, and doctor/mechanic gets to weigh their options whether they should care. And if I whine about the wait, or say...get upset about the doctor or mechanic working with someone else for as long as that patient/customer has already paid for, I'm clearly an irrational prick who lacks the basic understanding of how things work. I'm sorry, I usually think they are merits to both sides of the argument, but this is one of the dumber debates I've ever been involved in on here...and that includes the era around the 2016 election where everyone was at each others throats for no good reason.

Can't speak for the playhouse, I've never been, and I've never heard one local monger say something positive about it. If you're looking for something right next to DTW, I'd suggest the Landing Strip.

Ok. He got up and left. Is there a point to that? Maybe he was a nobody. Maybe he was whiney bitch regular who got his panties in a bunch because he confused fantasy with reality. Maybe its a made up story by Icey. You left out what happened after that. Did the dancer go running after him saying "oh my god you can't leave, what I'm going to do without your money?" Or did she get down to business with the customers that were there? These are two separate thoughts/approaches in mongering ideology that we're discussing and we may never agree. But I'll say this, there are some people saying that their approach is to worry about themselves and what they themselves can control in the club, rather than fight gravity. And there are those here who may not be entirely wrong, but ultimately are trying fight gravity that's not in their control as they worry about what others are doing and how they're doing it. I'd rather accept and work with gravity rather than fight it, because trying to fight it sounds like a dumb as shit, pointless battle that I'll never win.

Inkster, Romulus, Phoenix. End list.

Icey - is that behavior the exception, or the rule? I think anyone would be hard pressed to believe that any overt insinuations to that effect are what happens more often than not. When it happens, I still think the dancer is in control, but they may struggle more with making the call to walk away if they're not as skilled or strong willed, so I can somewhat understand this opposing point of view in that case. However, more importantly than that, I'd rather have this discussion focused on what happens more often than that, which is a friendly, symbiotic relationship between the dancer and the client. Debating thus based on the exceptions rather than the rule is a fruitless endeavor for all parties in this thread.

And their are clients just like that in business. The company/salesman still has the power and the obligation to determine whether the demands are worth it emotionally and financially. They are still ultimately in control of the situation. Though, I imagine you could argue that sometimes these dancers don't have the impulse control or rationalizing ability to effectively make that decision...thus being apt to being coerced. But where I differ is I think that many of these ladies are better at this game and having the upper hand in the situation than we give 'em credit for.

I'm not being defensive, I think that a lot of people are forgetting that this is a business at the end of the day that is being paid for. We're the clients, and the strippers just happen to be both the product and the salesman. What you call "coersion" would be the sales process and managing the client relationship in any other industry. It's 6 to one, half a dozen to another no matter how you slice it.

Like all business, there is a dependency on the clients money, thats not unique to strip clubs. There are other clients and it's up to the provider to determine which clients they will cater to and to what extent. My consulting team has to make these very same decisions day in and day out when we decide what client projects to take on, and which ones to reject. It's business.

That's not coercion, that's business.

Yep, a company doesn't want a client to leave, so they bend to the clieng's wishes to make them happy and keep them around. At the same time, the company/provider has the power to decide when the effort isn't worth the outcome. If the client is too demanding, and/or the money isn't significant enough to warrant the demands, they can reign back on the attention given, or even "fire" the client. The provider is ultimately in control in that regards, though it can be tough to make that decision with money being waved in their face, along with saving face on their client centric reputation.

In my younger years, I had a mentor in debauchery so to speak. This was a guy I worked with for a bit who had managed to blow through 600K in less than a year living in Vegas. He had a knack for start businesses, selling them off, having fun with the profits, working a normal job for a bit and doing it all over again. He did this a few times over in the time I knew him. This dude's hidden life was awesome and he taught me how to gamble and other things of the sort. When it came to ladies, he was more of an escort hobbyist than an SC monger, but in Vegas he didn't indulge in either unless it was casual group entertainment at a club. He swore by getting in the Deuce at night, and riding it up and down the strip until he picked someone up. The guy wasn't ideally attractive by any means, but this strategy of his would pretty much always work to get him someone much hotter than he deserved for just the cost of a bus ride. Anyways, moral of the story is Vegas is probably the place for picking up civvies rather overspending on only low to moderate mileage with a dancer.