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4 years ago
doc: yep, you'll want to pre-pay at least double what the room costs. But most of these reloadable cards have tons of headroom -- Vanilla card's limit, for example, is $9999.99
If you go with a gift card rather than a reloadable visa/mastercard, yes, mind the limits
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4 years ago
Agree, I don't think it's common, but it's a risk that would weigh on my mind. And you can play it off exactly as you say, but for a suspicious wife, expect her to now be on high alert. It's just some worries that are so easy to skirt around with a prepaid Visa.
Agree on gift cards. Every major hotel chain, in fact, has prepaid gift cards that they take. I can't say for sure they'll take those cards for reservations (vs final payment), but I think they do
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4 years ago
"I would check out the next morning at the hotel desk and they will ask me if I wanted to leave everything in that credit card, so I had the opportunity to use a different credit or debit card, a check or cash."
The risk here is that you are trusting the underpaid, undertrained, and overworked front desk person not to make a mistake and charge your card by accident at some point. Don't leave your future in the hands of a hotel front desk clerk. Just get a pre-paid card and use that, if for some reason you can't apply for an actual credit card with the bill sent to a PO box or something.
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4 years ago
jacej: we're lucky Papi's example wasn't some Chubby Checkers song
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4 years ago
No changes here. I expect it will take weeks to months
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4 years ago
We're all playing tic-tac-toe while misterorange is playing chess
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4 years ago
#misterorangeforpresident
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4 years ago
Okay, quick google says, reloadable credit card is do-able at some hotels, and unless you're going to do the "secret credit card I had sent to a different address" thing (which your wife will see if she looks at your credit report), then this is probably the way to go.
Some hotels take reloadable credit cards, like Best Western, Super 8, Courtyard Marriott, and Marriott
Some hotels it depends on location, so just check in advance, like Best Western, Holiday Inn Express, Days Inn, Holiday Inn
Quality Inn & Suites and Comfort Inn and Suites don't take a reusable card but both take a Choice Hotels gift card.
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4 years ago
It's been a long time since I've been in this situation, but would either of these options work?
1. Get a new credit card your wife doesn't know about
2. Get a reloadable visa card (e.g., a Vanilla card), always use that to book the room
If hotels take Vanilla cards, that seems like the easiest way
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4 years ago
alec, we're all expecting (and starting to see) more SBs, fewer SDs... we're expecting allowances to fall a bunch but not sure that's happened yet.
That said, I think there's some pressure the other way. Yes, there's been a flood of girls, but as Warrior mentioned, many of the new girls have been online-only or platonic-only, none of those girls contribute to lower allowances because they're not genuine competition. I also wonder if there's a practical floor. It's not easy for most young women to become sex workers, even if SA is good at dressing things up as a relationship so that it's easier to repress it as an SB. Yes, you have all those young women out of work, and perhaps they'd flood into SA if PPMs were $500, but if PPMs drop to $200? Hell, many might choose to drive for Uber over that. I've seen similar effects at SCs in local markets -- you absolutely have the most hot girls in the club when prices are highest, and when prices drop due to recessions, you get worse lineups, even though many young women struggle for work. There's a base price below which sex work isn't an enticing option for many women.
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4 years ago
Papi -- yeah, if it were a one-off I'd just assume it were one misguided minor. But multiple reports of basically the same text, being just a few weeks shy of 18, etc., all within the past few weeks, is a pattern. SA is either doing their own internal To Catch a Predator, or it's LE IMO
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4 years ago
Warrior: multiple reports of this coming in. Don't know if it's an internal SA thing, or some sort of undercover law enforcement. I'd report & block
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4 years ago
Our new shoplifting detection application works great, except sometimes before it tells you where the shoplifter is, it asks "do you have a little present for me?"
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4 years ago
I find the biggest risks are with girls who have been there the longest (risk of very refined hustle, jaded deep down) and the shortest (all the new girl foibles). I still go for both types, but they're the biggest risk. I think there's a sweet spot with girls who have been there just a couple of months -- still new enough that their attitude is completely fresh and may even seem downright excited, but not so new that they're horrible in the VIP
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4 years ago
3131: "I usually include "curvy" in my search. Yeah, you gotta weed out the fatties, but I would not categorically exclude it. "
Exactly... all the fatties pick curvy. There are some legit curvy girls who also pick curvy, so there are some gems there. But there's a zillion girls under slim/athletic/average, so no reason for me to have to go through way more profiles, just on the off chance there's a hot girl under curvy. But that's just for my particular area, no need for me to get 10x more noise just to get a little more signal.
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4 years ago
desert, my experience is definitely the opposite. When I go to the SC and let slip that I'm looking for an SB, invariably the stripper whips out her phone and we compare profiles. And I end up running into strippers on SA (don't always realize they're strippers at first) decently often. So, nearly every stripper ITC at least has an SA profile, and lots of strippers on SA in general. I do believe many strippers let their profiles lapse eventually -- they have a hard time of it, because some of them bring stripper-type hustle to SDs who aren't having it. The interaction norms are different on SA than they are between stripper & PL; I've seen SDs talk about their experiences with strippers as SBs and... it's not pretty. Meanwhile, I'm like, "no idea what you're talking about, I love having a stripper for an SB", but of course, I'm a PL first
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4 years ago
wall: I'm with you, in the sense that I love strippers, partygirls, etc. The two pieces of good news:
1. Lots of strippers on SA. Some of whom you might not have ever met if not for SA, given how many clubs and shifts there are
2. Lots of college girls are also partygirls. Okay, maybe not to the extent of your typical stripper, but I've run into fun college girls.
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4 years ago
rudy, I'm perhaps a bit wishy-washy in that I think everyone's basically right ... for themselves.
Totally understand why many PL types have no patience for SA. Everything desertscrub listed is absolutely true. TFP is absolutely right that it will take most people weeks or even months to find an SB (if that's what they're looking for, vs a quick fuck). At $90/month, many PLs don't see the value.
I also understand why many tuscl PLs enjoy using SA as basically a backpage replacement. There are many escorts, and pseudo-escorts, on SA, so if you're just looking for a no-strings-attached lay, that isn't so hard to find.
And I understand why some tuscl PLs feel weeks of looking, at $90/month, is easily worth it. I don't mind putting in a few weeks worth of "work" (I don't agree that it's really "work"... we exchange a few emails that take me ten seconds to write; if she ghosts somewhere along the way, I'm out 30s of my life) to wind my way through a lot of attractive young women, to find that one who I'll stick with for months or a year. As an ATFer rather than a variety guy at the SC, this kind of model suits me perfectly
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4 years ago
"But are they lying? Just because one of you (I've never checked out SA - too many reminders of that one Match.com date I went on) wouldn't do it doesn't mean another guy won't. "
Yes they are lying. Even experienced SBs say platonic is rare, and if anyone would know, it's them. Not completely non-existent, but rare enough as to not worth putting much effort into finding
So: yes, it's a lie to get views
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4 years ago
Warrior, you missed the fun from about a month and a half ago. A famous youtube channel girl did a video about how she made thousands of dollars selling feet pics on SA. Complete bullshit, of course, but every time these "influencers" do a video, there's a small tidal wave of nonsense on SA. In this case, for over a month, we were neck deep in girls trying to sell feet pics. They have all mercifully given up and are mostly gone now. But there's still plenty of influencers out there, lying to the girls about how many SDs will pay for a platonic arrangement.
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4 years ago
Warrior, confirmed on all accounts except the fatties. Actually, let me put it another way: I have no idea if there's more fatties or not, but my search filters are slim, athletic, and average. Any girl putting curvy or anything larger on SA is fat. I have no idea if there's more fatties or not, because I don't get any of those girls returned from my searches. But I will say, in the slim-athletic-average group, there are waaaaay more than there were.
Many of them are platonic, many of them are looking for online only. Tons of girls favoriting from other countries. Doesn't matter to me whether they're scams or not, if they're in Venezuela, doesn't do me any good. I ignore all of them.
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4 years ago
Ya, given the embarrassment of riches on SA, in the form of a deluge of 18-25 year old girls, you lost me at "early 40's"
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4 years ago
Trademarking Thotercise
- Red bottom shoes stair climb
- Pencil skirt downward-facing-dog hold for time
- "Woooooooooo! Shots!" for max dB. Disqualify for coughing or getting hoarse
- Food and selfie IG post obstacle course
- Early morning Uber Home From Strange Address challenge
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4 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
If buffets are put on hold for a while, I'll miss Indian buffets for sure
Strip clubs too, of course, but the state of strip clubs in SF has been so atrocious anyway, I had significantly shifted to arrangements already. Still, SCing has always been at least part an opportunity to get out with the guys, and will badly miss that aspect regardless
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4 years ago
You can't honestly believe he'd do anything else. Totally in character. He's Colin Robinson from What We Do In the Shadows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Dk1YGQjBo8