Comments by trapdoor

I was told that the Cubans are consistent and show up while some of the hotter girls are hit/miss on their attendance. HL probably taking an approach of quantity over quality especially since the club makes money off of the dancers' house fees.

Lmao!!! I hit up a few of the PHX locals to see if they wanted to enjoy an afternoon at HL. Nothing "official". Those who attended can feel free to mention themselves in the comments.

I've met Shadow a few times and he's always been funny and a great person to hang with! Hope you are enjoying time to relax and get some much needed rest. The club will always be there when you're ready to have fun!

VIP prices are $20/song??? Is this confirmed? Did they reduce the price?

Avoid the downtown clubs if possible. I always liked Platinum 84 which is North of Denver or Shotgun Willie's which is South of Denver. If you're staying in downtown Denver, Larimer Street used to have a lot of nice restaurants and bars in that area. I haven't been since before COVID and heard the city is a mess. Used to go to Union Station which had nice bars/restaurants as well, but a friend said it was overrun with homeless. Same with 16th Street.

I remember Arizona used to have highway speeding cameras. However, my understanding is you didn't have to pay them since it wasn't issued by law enforcement, but by a third party contractor. There is a bill pending in CA to pilot speeding cameras, but I think it's BS. The dangerous drivers are the ones speeding in residential areas where kids are playing and not on the busy expressways.

I think bringing back the FAQ would be helpful. I was always under the impression that a club couldn't be reviewed for VIP credit if you last wrote a review 6 months ago. Now, it appears as though you can write a review each month for the same club? I've also held off on writing reviews since submitting 2 or 3 separate reviews would be redundant and instead submitted a single review covering all of those visits. I'm not sure if that's more or less helpful, but it did make the review extra long. I think having clear criteria for VIP access for club reviews should be published on the site, in general.

First off, nobody calls it San Fran...we call it SF. Second, wine country isn't near SF. It's probably over an hour drive to get into the city. Third, the clubs in SF are expensive and generally not worth it. Don't leave luggage in your rental car as it'll get bipped. Also, shailynn recommended Paso Robles...that's 3hrs south of the Bay along the central coast. Beautiful area, but absolutely pitiful nightlife there. caseyx is right...won't find anything in terms of bang for buck in SF. Enjoy the weather and don't leave belongings in your rental (second time I mention because it always happens).

I read a report that said neighbors used Snapchat maps to view Snapchat stories that used geo-tagged data. First, I didn't know that this was possible! Second, I did this and found Fressh's stories in which he records the dances doing pole work. Some stories show girls topless. Crazy how that evidence can't be used against him.

My apologies, gents...this was supposed to be for The Crazy Horse SF. @founder, please move this review if possible. Thanks!

I've always found desertscrub to be very friendly and helpful. We used to chat a lot over PM and he would give me the lowdown on PHX clubs, especially during COVID. I'm still in contact with him and will continue to meet up with him at clubs whenever I'm back in PHX. I've met many members here through my travels and all have been very friendly and open to sharing info. Clubbing began as a means to entertain my customers after taking them out to dinner, to becoming an actual hobby filled with enjoyable encounters and making friends who share a common interest. Regardless of how you felt about desertscrub, you will undoubtedly admit that this forum will be different without his comments and contributions. I don't know if I can even say that about myself. His presence will be missed and I wish him all the best!

Anytime you encounter a ROB, please make sure to list their name so others can avoid. I have a feeling this dancer was from out of town.

Great call out of the ROBs! This needs to be a thing that gets normalized more is outting the ROBs!

@desertscrub was probably very obvious. The dancer and the bouncer were arguing (almost yelling) at each other and him telling her to get dressed and go home. They were even saying over the radio, "here comes the guy wearing (physical description of attire)" as the PL left the club. Super awkward moment which killed my vibe and any chance of decent two-way contact since the dancer I was going back to VIP with was shook.

There was a pho restaurant and another place in the corner, but I wasn't paying close attention.

Cover charge of $68??? Just curious if you arrived by taxi/Uber? I remember if you drove and self parked that cover was much cheaper (if not, free).

Some of these spots in the Bay area slightly prejudice and if you're Caucasian and/or look like LE, they cover up and show's over. Also, some spots are female friendly and others aren't. So don't always assume you can bring a female. In SJ, that's instant show's over at my favorite café and the girls get upset since no hand tipping occurs when they're covered.

@Papi_Chulo Probably the most famous coffee shop is/was Café Lu which seems to have gotten the reputation of featuring the hottest waitresses, but I think other coffee shops started sprouting up that feature nudity (since Café Lu didn't, but I heard some waitresses will). In terms of talent, you can view the girls on the club's IG @cafe.269, but expect there to be Asians that are petite. There are a few that are enhanced (both up top and the occasional BBL) and during my visit I saw Latinas and Caucasian waitresses. In my experience, you'll see just about anything which also includes larger BBW type ladies (which are less common, but still they exist). If you've ever been to a Bone Daddy's or another breasteraunt, that's that type of girls you'd imagine seeing here, but with more emphasis on Asians. Think when I was there, I counted about 8 waitresses, so plenty of variety. It's not necessary to tip them each time they refill your drink, but tip them a dollar if you like what you see. I emphasize the dollar tipping as that's customary there in the OC. In the Bay, it's more expensive, but there's contact involved (at least at the coffee shops I frequent in SJ).

Hope the new site gets ride of the searching by county as opposed to the older style of searching by major city. Although, it has made me more educated on which county these cities are in, but when traveling for work and trying to find a nearby club, it makes it a total guessing game unless I do a Google search and find out which county I'm in. In terms of the troll accounts, I simply ignore them. Are they annoying? Yes! But as long as it isn't getting too far out of control, I don't really care.

Did not see her and actually never seen her at the club. Think she only works evenings

VIP was more fun than it's been recently, but still not like HL of old. Could be a case of familiarity leading to more friendly dances, but overall didn't get the sense that fun times are a thing of the past.

They had curtains ever since I started coming (after they reopened from COVID lockdown). But the curtains were only for the corner VIP booths/benches.

Happy Birthday, Shadow! Didn't know you were a fellow Capricorn (my birthday is the 10th). Won't be there physically, but will be there in spirit. Wondering what shirt he'll wear on this occasion???

@Lone_Wolf you talking about Angie from HL? She's no longer there, but I do see her post that she's at HL from time to time.

@623 the Cuban dancers at this club earned this reputation due to their ROB tendencies. Some of them aren't, but that's not a chance I'm going to take. It's been well documented in past reviews, as well. Now, if that has changed, I'd be more than happy to give them a try as some of them are seriously good looking, but they all hang out together, so I just prefer not to associate with any of them unless I hear/know otherwise.