Comments by macaffluent

Nineteen is too old.  I prefer eighteen and younger.  I've had several and they are so much better than the older ones. 

Like a few others, I have visited the clubs for 30+ years, so I have seen it all. However, my experiences are quite different. In my area thirty years ago, there was no such thing as a lap dance, instead the customer bought the dancer a drink, received a happy ending, then gave a her a $20 tip. The girls were young, very young. I had OTC relationships with several and it was quite routine. The price ranged from $50 to $100 and they were mostly teenagers, my preference. I dated one from age 16 to 28, but that was unusual. In those days owners looked the other way and bouncers always seemed absent when the action was going on. All of that is in sharp contrast to what I see going on in the current environment. Admittedly, I am much older now and the "ymmv" factor may come into play, but then and now it is all about money and I don't think the age thing matters that much. I never got into the fantasy aspect that so many talk about. It is good to see the exchange of ideas and experiences. That is what the forum is all about.

Market niches exist and they can be utilized to create a non-competitve environment where success is easily achieved.  All that is required is an open mind, you do not even have to be an iconoclast.

&nbsp;The ATF is an interesting phenomenon, one which a lot of guys do not experience without having been<br /> involved in the strip club scene for an extended period of time. &nbsp;My own involvement began four decades ago, so I have been around. &nbsp;In that time, I only had one ATF.<br /> <br /> Our affair lasted 12 years, from the time I met her at age 16 to our parting when she was a jaded 28 year old. &nbsp;I do have to say that she was the most beautiful female I have ever experienced and that I am glad<br /> I have those extraordinary memories to carry with me through life.<br /> <br /> Yes, the thrust of your article is right on. &nbsp;I knew it was only lust, but I was a moth drawn to the flame.<br type="_moz" />

&nbsp;Ooops, typo, I meant to say &quot;It only makes sense.&quot;

&nbsp;Great article. &nbsp;Club management would do well to read these articles and listen to what their clientele has to say. &nbsp;I only makes sense.

&nbsp;The list grows, thanks guys. &nbsp;Now if only the owners and managers will get their heads out of the sand and just listen. &nbsp;I am a business man and the first thing I learned was to have an open mind and look at every idea, especially if it was not mine. &nbsp;This is the way you succeed in business, by thinking.

All of us who have dated dancers have had different experiences because all of the girls are different. &nbsp;We are all human beings and sooner or later<br /> that fact outweighs all the circumstances of our lives. &nbsp;I am a better person for having dated dancers. &nbsp;I have some great memories and they have more<br /> financial resources than they would have had. &nbsp;It is a win-win situation.&nbsp;

&nbsp;I beg to differ. &nbsp;arranging &quot;dates&quot; outside the club is not unusual. &nbsp;I have done it countless times and it was not my overwhelming personality, it was my<br /> pocketbook speaking. &nbsp;It does help if you visit with the dancer more than once, come across as a nice guy, and suggest a meeting place where neither of you will be intimidated, such as having lunch, etc. &nbsp;On the other hand, it has been straight to the motel on several occasions, especially when I was known&nbsp;<br /> to friends of the dancer. &nbsp;Being a regular has its advantages. &nbsp;With several dancers, the relationship continued over a period of time, the best being one<br /> of twelve years, but I will not go into the details. &nbsp;Suffice it to say, that you must pick one who needs money and does not have a lot of personal problems<br /> outside the club. &nbsp;Maybe I was lucky, maybe I am the exception to the rule, but I do not think so.

&nbsp;Discrete is a mathematic term. &nbsp;What you are trying to say is discreet.

&nbsp;YMMV however, I go back in time further to the mid 70's and early 80's and perhaps to a more restrictive geographic milieu. &nbsp;My experience was that you&nbsp;<br /> could be granted a happy ending for $20, simple as that. &nbsp;Conversation was interspersed with digital skills, lights were low and the music suggestive, such as Devo's classic, &quot;Whip It&quot;. &nbsp;Bouncers kept a low profile and management went to the bank with a smile on their face. &nbsp;Those were the good old days. &nbsp;For those<br /> who were deprived of that experience, I say, too bad. &nbsp;For me there are a lot of pleasant memories, but with today's emphasis on porn stars and in your face<br /> rap, I pretty much know what the future holds, so I spend my money on pretty young things outside the clubs.

&nbsp;i, for one, would not mind seeing the smokers and generally obnoxiious crowd that dominates strip clubs, well, just hit the road Jack and make way for those of us who have real money to spend. &nbsp;The only problem is that club owners will never understand that until it happens. &nbsp;Only then will they rake in the money in wheelbarrow loads and go to the bank big time. &nbsp;Until that happens, my money stays in my pocket and I stay on the sidelines.