Balance of Power between Strippers and Customers

rickdugan
Verified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
When I first started visiting strip joints regularly about 15 years ago they were much more about the show and the tease. Dancers did a lot more poll tricks and other moves than you generally see today and there was more of a playful, teasing and seductive nature to their interactions with patrons. <br />
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In the Northeast (NY to Boston and stops in between), where I got started in this before my travels made my game national, the hot girls were VERY much sought after.&nbsp; OTC was very difficult and VERY expensive if it even could be had with an attractive girl.&nbsp;&nbsp;It was often the uglier and/or drugged up girls doing it.&nbsp;&nbsp; Back then not only did you need to have a lot of money at hand, but it was also helpful if you had some coke on you.&nbsp; Imagine a situation where the courtship included handing a rolled up single to a girl in the club, her leaving for the bathroom and returning 10 minutes later to hand the single back to you.<br />
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Things have clearly changed. There is now a sense of desperation and/or aggression from the girls in some of these clubs that never used to exist.&nbsp; The&nbsp;new crop of dancers, IMO, are often less skilled at the art of seduction and more willing to do things that the last generation of dancers wouldn't do, at least without ridiculous amounts of&nbsp;$$$ involved.&nbsp;<br />
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Now I will readily admit that I also sometimes miss aspects of those days, which I caught the tail end of while I started up in this hobby. But there are a lot of things about those days that I don't miss.<br />
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I don't miss the hustle aspect of those days, where in some areas there was so much money chasing the girls that if you weren't spending very large sums of money on a girl then you were nothing more than a club spectator. I also don't miss the blatant scams run by some of the clubs back then, when it could be pulled off with much more ease than today. <br />
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Also, back then not only were the girls skilled in the art of seduction, but a % of those girls were also masters in the art of the long con. I saw more then one guy spend himself into bankruptcy chasing the elusive affections of a masterful stripper, where her feelings for him would increase in proportion to his ITC and OTC spending. Cars, jewelry, expensive trips, guys flying in from out of town just to spend time with them, I witnessed a lot more of these things than I would have imagined. I don't miss seeing this either.<br />
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The clubs have changed and, with money more scarce, the balance of power has certainly shifted more in favor of the men. If you have money to spend in the clubs, then it is truly a good time to be a strip club hound!.

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  • Dudester
    14 years ago
    Twenty-thirty years ago, strip club bucks was hard for me to come by. Twenty-thirty years ago, you got little bang for your buck, except just to look. I'm glad the way things are now. Actually, I think seduction is at a different level now. For instance-20-30 years ago, it was &quot;I'll let you look&quot;. Recently, at St. James, I complimented a dancer on her costume. Her reply &quot;Want to take it off of me ?&quot;<br />
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    Biggest turn on for me is undressing a female. The anwer was an astounding HELL YEAH !!
  • mikeya02
    14 years ago
    Of course, back in the 80's, a lot of strippers could be seduced by drugs instead of dollars. They would just ask.
  • macaffluent
    14 years ago
    &nbsp;YMMV however, I go back in time further to the mid 70's and early 80's and perhaps to a more restrictive geographic milieu. &nbsp;My experience was that you&nbsp;<br />
    could be granted a happy ending for $20, simple as that. &nbsp;Conversation was interspersed with digital skills, lights were low and the music suggestive, such as Devo's classic, &quot;Whip It&quot;. &nbsp;Bouncers kept a low profile and management went to the bank with a smile on their face. &nbsp;Those were the good old days. &nbsp;For those<br />
    who were deprived of that experience, I say, too bad. &nbsp;For me there are a lot of pleasant memories, but with today's emphasis on porn stars and in your face<br />
    rap, I pretty much know what the future holds, so I spend my money on pretty young things outside the clubs.
  • theriddler
    14 years ago
    I agree 100% with you Rick and Dude. It was like a privilege just to SEE stripper pussy years ago. I like the business model a hell of a lot better now than then. <br type="_moz" />
  • Dougster
    14 years ago
    It's hard to pinpoint exactly how it went down. <br />
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    Partly it was the economy going from boom to bust. Partly it is a new generation of girls influenced by hip-hop for whom ho'ing is no big deal. But could it also be partly because the girls and SC owners overplayed their hands when they did have the advantage? Burned through their most profitable PLs, and now are left with only&nbsp;a more savvy breed of PL whom I shall christian the &quot;SPL&quot; (savvy PL) who are not nearly as profitable and demand so much more for their money? <br />
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    Probably it's mostly just the&nbsp;economy though. Recession = advantage customers, but if we ever get a boom again, and it probably a long ways off,&nbsp;the formula will&nbsp;be boom = advantage girls. Us guys should enjoy these times and milk it to the extreme while they last! God knows the girls played their advantage for all it was worth when they could. <br />
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    Fuck more whores!<br />
    Love,<br />
    Dougster
  • CCRiderm
    14 years ago
    On the topic of the &quot;Long Con&quot;, here is an article about a really sad situation from Philly back in the late 90's:<br />
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    Main Line Murder was once again the headline when Merion attorney Stefanie Rabinowitz was found on April 30, 1997, dead in the bathtub of the home she shared with her husband Craig and their baby daughter. At first, it was thought to be an accidental drowning&mdash;but then an autopsy report found her death was actually due to strangulation. Craig Rabinowitz was charged with murder. Then, the truly sordid details began to emerge: evidence of Craig Rabinowitz&rsquo;s double life. His business, supposedly in latex products, never actually existed. He was heavily in debt; he had pawned everything down to his wife&rsquo;s engagement ring and had defrauded their friends and family. He frequented prostitutes before and during his marriage. In the four months before his wife&rsquo;s death, Rabinowitz had spent $29,000 at a Philadelphia strip club, Delilah&rsquo;s Den, where he had been seeing a stripper named Summer&mdash;real name: Shannon Reinhart&mdash;for a year. He spent thousands more buying gifts for Summer, with whom he had apparently grown obsessed. The clincher was, the couple had taken a $1.8 million life insurance policy on Stefanie just weeks before her death.<br />
    In the end, the story Craig Rabinowitz told was this: Stefanie had grown suspicious of his spending and began questioning him. He snapped. The day Rabinowitz&rsquo; trial was set to begin, he confessed to the murder and was sentenced to life in prison without parole.<br />
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    Twenty Nine THOUSAND dollars PLUS gifts....she must have been a master.&nbsp; This is in a club that at that time was a complete &quot;No Touch&quot; club.&nbsp; You were expected to almost sit on your hands or some gorilla of a bouncer would remind you of that fact.<br />
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  • MisterGuy
    14 years ago
    <span style="font-size: larger;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">The &quot;long con&quot; isn't gone by any measure.&nbsp; There were a <i>bunch</i> of guys at an old favorite strip club hangout of mine that spent money hand over fist on this one dancer that was married &amp; had two kids.&nbsp; One guy even drove over 4 hours one way just to spend his company's earnings on her, and that was only a few years ago.</span></span><br />
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  • mikeya02
    14 years ago
    I agree with dougster, the economy sucks, less guys working, less guys willing to dish out the money , girls are more enthusiastic these days. And the porn is better these days. Young girl, a real sweetheart, told me guys, her boyfriends, expect her to act like in the pornos,and of course she likes it.
  • Prim0
    14 years ago
    I think we have to factor in the internet and how it has made soooo much information available to all of us.&nbsp; Example #1...TUSCL...I've already learned so much here that when I go to a club my money goes a lot farther towards my pleasure than it did when I started going to SCs in my late teens and early 20s.&nbsp; ON the other side, the girls seem to be exposed to much more porn and sexiness than they ever saw back in the day.&nbsp; Hell, you almost can't avoid it.&nbsp; When I was in my teens I felt lucky to get ahold of a copy of playboy or penthouse...now teens can see anything they want online and its got to open the eyes of some of these girls.&nbsp; How bad can a lapdance look after seeing women being gangbanged for nothing online?
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