Comments by rickdugan

===> "Everytime I see a smash or pass on here I think "would I pay to spend time with her?"" Same. That's why I'm always specific about whether I'd fuck her for free AND whether I'd pay for it. So far, a lot of the girls posted have been very fuckable for an every day affair, but I wouldn't have paid for them. Too many fake tits for my liking.

Sure. Try the Waffle House, lol. They are open all night. The strip clubs are closed by 2:00am and almost everything else closes long before then, especially on a weeknight. Even many of the regular bars/pubs close by 11pm.

===> "When I think back on my favs that lived with SOs, the household could have survived if she had not work or worked a lower paying job." That's not what I've encountered. In almost every instance I've known, and I've know a lot of them, she was dancing because she needed the money. Otherwise I never would have enticed so many of them OTC when times were slow. Now maybe in the earlier days of these relationships it was indeed more about pursuing a life about more than survival. But as is so often the case, soon they were living up to their means, with higher rent, higher car payments, etc., etc. Then these girls became trapped in their lifestyles - hardly an empowerment story, lol. They could not afford to stop without their lives blowing up and the useless dudes they were with could not help bridge the gap. And the whole time, these bitch ass cuck losers went along for the ride, first not putting their feet down about other guys molesting their women for money and then actually becoming dependent on that money. Then, rather than being grateful for their SOs "support", the dancers start to resent these dudes for making them feel trapped. I rarely encounter a LTR that survives a girl dancing for any extended period of time.

You're grasping at straws now ilb. Plenty of women work dirty jobs. Unless those jobs are sexualized by nature and provide guys with ample opportunities to molest their naked body in countless ways, they don't compare. Bitch ass cuck losers indeed. How a grown man can live with himself knowing that his groceries and housing are paid for by other men doing that shit to his woman I will never understand.

And a bitch ass to boot. Just thought I'd add that. ;)

There's a world of difference between dealing with a shitty boss and having a guy try to stick two fingers up your ass in the LD room or lick your tit after you've already told him no 3 times, lmao. And if a guy isn't man enough to be bothered by that and can't earn enough so that she doesn't have to do that to make ends meet, what is he going to do if she ever gets pregnant and can't work? Loser cuck indeed.

===> "Pity someone, Russian or otherwise, who thinks that jealousy and possessiveness are keys signs of true love or good character." Actually, simple common sense. Only a POS man would be OK with his SO being molested for money. Or worse, actually be able to live with benefitting from it. Gender differences still matter. Last i checked, dudes can't carry babies, give birth or breastfeed. Also, due to size and strength differences, women are also much more vulnerable to men with bad intentions than vice versa.

The difference is that she didn't know about it. She also never would have married me if she did. But your feeble attempt at an analogy also breaks down by trying to treat: (1) commercial sex work the same as a dude with a wandering penis; and (2) men and women in general as the same. If I was working as a male stripper and allowing random women to grope and rub up on me for money, I can GUARANTEE that I wouldn't have even made it to a second date with my ex. Then there is the simple issue of male pride. I know this is a foreign concept to you Ibb, but what self-respecting man could ever live with this? Not only for jealousy reasons, but also because of the crap and mistreatment, at the hands of other men, that these girls must often endure? How can they possibly look themselves in the mirror and respect themselves for benefitting off of that? That Russian girl I mentioned above was rather smart when she said: "I would never want to be with someone who would be OK with me doing this." She wanted a man for a future husband, one who could step up and take care of shit when needed. No guy who can live with his woman get molested by other men for money can ever be that type of guy - he just doesn't have the character and grit for it.

I guess it depends what type of "patron" we are talking about. If he's a simply a good paying customer, then fuck no you don't kick him out. You get the dumb bitches in line in order to keep the money in the club. If it's the club drug dealer or a pimp BF, then fucking heave ho at the first whiff of drama.

===> "if a woman is OK enough to be trusted with your kids, doesn't that mean she's OK enough for someone other than a cuck loser to want to be her SO?" No. Those are two entirely different issues. For example, there are plenty of good mothers out there with shitty SOs. Good judgment regarding childcare does not equate to good romantic choices. I once had an OTC favorite who once told me that, once she got a serious BF, our arrangement would need to end. She justified this by saying: "I would never to be with someone who would be OK with me doing this." This was a hard nosed and very intelligent 22 year old Russian girl with a very clear view of the world. Now obviously that was OTC, but the same concept applies to a girl doing LDs/VIPs in a club. Who other than a detestable POS would ever be OK with the notion that any random dude with $20-30 burning a hole in his pocket gets to grope and rub up on his woman?

In other words, the problem is with him, not with her.

===> "We've got a bazillion "only a cuck loser would be a stripper's SO" post on TUSCL. But apparently those posters are fine with a stripper watching over their kid for 6 hours a day?" You're comparing apples and bananas. Unless of course the cuck loser stripper SO is also being allowed in the classroom with my children, which would be very disturbing given that he likely has esteem issues, other mental health challenges and may even be a sexual deviant. But of course nowadays most schools would never allow unauthorized adults into the building during school hours.

I yearn for the day when I have to seek opinions about how to occupy ample free time. 😆 But one thing I have noticed can burn gobs of time is fantasy sports. I have a single fantasy football team and it has gobbled up time in research and roster development, including ongoing waiver wire pickups. It has given me rooting interests in a lot more games now, so Sunday is a really big day and sometimes Thursday and Monday nights are big too. I know some guys who have multiple fantasy football teams and I just don't know how they do it. Also I can't even imagine the time commitment needed to play other fantasy sports, especially baseball. I also enjoy cooking, which can be time consuming. I don't get to work on the dishes that I really like the most due to differing household palates, but when I was single and childless (seemingly eons ago) I did a fair amount of experimenting in the kitchen. I expect that someday I will again once the nest is empty.

If it's free, it's for me. But if I have to pay, it must go away. 😉 All kidding aside, this is completely understandable. But it will hurt. For me at least, this was the site's single most valuable tool in researching clubs in places that I travel to. Heck I even chose hotels based upon the clubs in the vicinity. It is what it is I suppose. But for me at least the feature will be sorely missed.

===> "Sugaring is sex work. The women who engage in it are in self denial trying to say it’s not." Ssshhhhhh, lol. I mean fucking A TC. Sugar babies don't advertise on escort sites. Besides, how many escorts would you bring to dinner before dessert? There are HUGE differences! These VERY important distinctions are why so many vanilla girls with F/T day jobs are willing to sugar date, but would never DREAM of working as strippers or escorts. So GET WITH THE PROGRAM TC and don't make them question themselves with all that judgy nonsense! *wink wink* And Ssshhhhhh.

^As would you if you had a lick of sense. Read everything I posted above about engaging in this tit for tat shit. What can be done to me, can be done to thee, when the shoe is on the other foot. The more we do it, the more we normalize it and the more it escalates. Especially when it involves former Presidents. There is a reason that we have historically let them ride off into the night instead of indulging fantasies of political payback. At some point, it will inevitably become an issue that is destabilizing and may someday even interfere with the peaceful transfer of power, as it already does in countless other countries. I suppose this is what happens when we raise a generation of adults in single Mother households. Especially the boys, who don't learn emotional control and instead grow up almost as emotionally sensitive as women. Too many people are hypersensitive and far too easily outraged, which IMO has led to the crazy polarization of this country. A little corruption is far preferable than all of this melodramatic side show nonsense. Yes the Bidens were corrupt and yes so were the Clintons. Heck I bet that many if not most other Presidents benefitted as well. For that matter, how many Senators and Congressmen become wealthy while in office from speaking engagements and book deals for books that nobody ever reads? Whether the Biden's corruption is a little more blatant than we're normally willing to tolerate is a reasonable question. But pursuing it is not worth the potential long-term fallout. Heck how many

===> "It will depend on what Biden does in the coming weeks. Biden may just push the limit on Pardoning that is unacceptable to Americans like he did with the Borders and Economy." No it doesn't. You need a 2/3 of both chambers of Congress to pass and then 3/4 of all state legislatures to ratify a Constitutional amendment. Biden will likely issue a slew of last minute 11th hour pardons, like all his predecessors before him. Some may even be pre-emptive in nature. It won't matter. This is simply not one of those issues that is such a slam dunk that a groundswell of bipartisan support will exist to even attempt that massive exercise. Sure there will be a few days of outrage and hemming and hawing, but then it will go away, as it should. We want our legislators legislating, not investigating.

^ Pardon power isn't going anywhere. There is no Constitutional ambiguity requiring a SC ruling. The Constitution gives the President's complete pardon power except in cases of impeachment. Also, a Constitutional Amendment requires massive amounts of time, coordination and political capital to get passed. I doubt that enough people care enough about this issue to go through that process, even assuming that widespread agreement on the matter could be reached. Finally, the NY and GA cases are done too. The Supremacy Clause ensures that they cannot pursue a sitting President and 4 years is a long time for these things to languish. I strongly suspect that these issues will quietly fade away on appeals if they are not simply dismissed altogether. The only thing left is for the lawyers to play the string out, lol.

Over 130 posts in and the pearl clutching and teeth gnashing continues. Of course he pardoned his own son you dumb fucks. 😆 Now if he had an ounce of brains, he also would have pardoned Trump, which would have given him much more air cover. Kind of sending a "let's move on from all this ugliness" message which really wouldn't have cost anything since the federal cases against DJT are going away anyway. But that was just a bridge too far I guess.

^ So you're the one. I hope you didn't pay her for it, lol. 😉

This board is the only place I ever encounter this "private dances" concept. What guy in his right mind would pay the freight to get a girl OTC and book a hotel room just to have her keep her clothes on and do LDs? 😆 Heck, it's so odd a concept that it would likely be a harder sell to many dancers than a much more relatable FS OTC outing. After all, a girl can certainly understand a guy wanting to fuck her, but would no doubt be much more suspicious of a guy who claimed to want to pay her a lump sum to come to a hotel room and give him a pointless LD. Many girls would no doubt assume that he's running some type of con.

In all the OTC encounters I've negotiated, I've never had any girl use the term "private dances" lol. Typically, when the party moves to the hotel, everyone knows what's expected and the only thing that needs to be negotiated upfront is the price. If a girl is actually using the term "private dances" then you should make it clear upfront that LDs are not really what you're seeking. But beyond that, IMO you should just go with the flow. You should assume that she intends to be there only as long as it takes you to cum. If you want more than that, then you should work that out in advance. Also, if you require a condom, you'd best bring one with you. Unless she's a high volume ITC FS provider, the odds are good that she won't be carrying one. I saw that another poster suggested that you ask her what she'll do bare, but IME that usually works itself out in the hotel room. IMO all that you accomplish by bringing it up in advance is to make her self-conscious about the condom issue. Good luck and have fun!

@RMD: "Society" will be just fine, lol. Almost anyone can understand the unique nature of a President pardoning his own son, even if they don't like it. As far as the ability to pardon, you obviously ignored my comments further above. It makes perfect sense. Finally, when did I say that I didn't want prostitution legalized? My issue with old dudes soliciting young girls in public venues has nothing to do with legalizing p4p, but rather involves common decency and respect. Young women should be free to go about their daily lives without creepy old dudes harassing them for paid sex. It's one thing for the girl to already be doing some type of adult entertainment work, like stripping, but quite another to solicit a girl who is just trying to finish her shift at her retail job site.

@gamma: By "break" me do you mean goaded me into responding? You're a weird dude with a twisted way of thinking. But you're right - maybe I made the mistake of treating you like a person instead of a weird ass troll posting from his Mom's basement. My bad. 😉

@gamma: 1) That's a stupid speculative comment. The important point is that nobody tried to prosecute them, despite the all too obvious low hanging fruit. 2} I broadly agree that they should never have pursued Trump, but two wrong don't make a right. This never-ending tit for tat behavior has to stop somewhere. 3) Out of everything, this is the most asinine thing you've said, which says something. Obviously you are not a student of world history. Democracies are fragile things and we are a young nation by historical standards. If the President could win the support of the military (likely by bribing and promoting key allies) he'd be a good chunk of the way there. It would also likely not happen in one fell swoop. First the election results would be deemed fraudulent and it would most likely snowball from there, in a series of steps orchestrated over time to neutralize opposition. I'm sure some national emergency would also be conjured up, like a threat posed by some foreign power. The Supreme Court and Congress both rely upon the executive branch to enforce their edicts, so they can't stand in the way. The states only have their respective national guards to call, but which states are going to want to wage a civil war against the U.S. military? So no, if we want to ensure that we continue to having peaceful transitions of power, we need to be sure that departing Presidents don't feel threatened by potential retaliation.