Comments by David9999 (page 4)

no customer should ever expect change at the tip rail, its absurd Several weeks back upon entering a club early in the 1st shift I actually handed $1000 (Ten 100 dollar bills) to a dancer on stage (yup its 100% absolutely true) - however I told her as I handed it to her, it was a pre-payment for upcoming VIP sessions (probably over 3 or 4 days), but it was a Friday and we did just 3 champagne rooms that day, so of course she got ALL the money for the weekend, and myself a credit to be carried into the next week I was going to spend it on her anyway, so why not have some fun and give her the added kick of getting a $1000 all at once handed to her. When she walked over to bar to see me after getting off her stage set, she didn't say anything (trying to act real cool like it happens everyday) except just normal things such as "whats new?" or about an upcoming champagne room etc so I had to make sure she didn't think I handed her 20's or something, so (unfortunately) I have to remind her to make sure she understood that those were 100's I gave her on stage. Yup this is the "5000 dollar dancer" (about 65% to her) others have been bashing me on earlier this week- ok she's a bit flakey as it turns out, but hey she's young If I'm going to pay them large sums of money, I at least want them to remember it and who gave it to them - when they've left the club for the day

very funny however the 6-3 200 lbs part has made my day, because I having some problems today with this, otherwise fun, particular dancer who I long have believed has some kind of narcissistic sociopathic personality disorder which now and then surfaces - and its a bit hard to deal with. Some of us really are 6-3 and in shape and 200 lbs and have lots of money and happen (among other things)to be lawyers, I mean its not really that big a deal, and by the way no one is claiming to look like a younger version of Sean Connery or any other Bond actor. You would be very suprised how much of a true gentlemen I am in a club setting, with this "horndog vibe" being very very low key - which is actually much more effective when it operates in that fashion

Note I had not set foot in a strip club in the prior 20 years before June of 2007, so this (not 50k estimate a month or 2 back, but yes somewhere between 50k to 60k current best estimate for the entire 12 month beginning of June 2007 to end of June 2008 period) - in terms of 20 years its not really very much. In terms of one year -ok its not smart. That's why I am trying to figure out ways not to spend so much Among them: 1. try to go into a club w/o spending anything- lets say less than 10 bucks on a drink (i've done this probably only 5 or 6 times in total) 2. try to go into a club with an ATF there - and not spend anything, now that's going to be hard to explain. I thought about paying just a tipout (usually 60 to 75 range) 3. don't bring any money in (leave some in the car) 4. have no money (like more than 100) anywhere, in person or in the car. That one I don't think I have the guts to try it, because I would always be afraid to run into a super attractive (in my terms at least) and then not even able to buy a dance. I probably will have to force that somehow at some point 5. I'm actually thinking of using AMP girls or one particular AMP girl (my ATF types know of) as an excuse to these money hungry dancers - of course I would bump up AMP spending a bit in that case - but I've never spent mega bucks in those cases

heroin? via a needle? sounds a big risky, I think even "always fuck em" Bobbyl might back off from that one

The reality is no matter what I provide as a reason, its never going to satisfy these particular assholes. If I were judgement proof, broke, wasn't dropping 1000's over multiple months on select women in specified clubs who value the confidential nature of any contact with them, or had a rotten marriage, or were single or some combination - which seems be the categories some of the assholes fall into - my guess is that I probably would have had maybe 20 to 40 posts, perhaps alot more.

"penumbra" effectively means The Court can do whatever the hell it wants and figure out the reasons later. I figured that out many years ago

I told you I have good reasons and I don't have to cite those reasons. So please FUCK OFF.

David 120 - go fuck yourself OK

The number of times I go is not the big deal, the issue is spending too much money, but if I do the the first, the later seems to always happen. Have not done it yet, but I am thinking (except maybe if I know an ATF type is there for sure) of carrying like 50 bucks into the club and keeping the other $400 or so outside in my car, with the idea that I would then think twice about blowing big bucks on some random hot dancer (or who I think is hot for the moment) that I probably have no long term interest in anyways. Otherwise it seems the only way I don't spend - is NOT to go. In any case I would never use a credit card or the club ATM, so if I don't have the cash I cannot spend

good decision except for the libs and other wusses

The actual percent might vary, however ASSUMING they're normal to begin with - the next question might be how fast the business affects them, for example in terms of 1. how fast the business makes them dishonest (i mean beyond the usual white lies) 2. how quickly it makes them jaded

Ok money wise however definitely cutting back. Definitely my largest discretionary amount

geez more bullshit. this time from another idiot

2nd ignore function on now

I was vaguely familiar with the movie before hitting search, but that sounds just like something Dennis Miller would say, and pretty funny actually

Anything I've posted on EP is a straight forward run through of what I believe. This is not a devils advocate deal or some kind of game. However substantive responses taking alternative views may at times cause me to either modify a position to some degree or rethink certain positions - often times to improve or condense what I am trying to say or perhaps allow someone else to at least understand what I am trying to say. By the way, I've been discussing this issue for more than 15 years, and probably the last 10 years mostly on various internet sites. Note my comments in regards to Robert Wright who did the Time Mag cover story back in the 90's on man's natural tendency toward non-monogamy. Genes and their role as "decision" makers are simply a hard concept for many to grasp

Dick - I don't have the precise answer but sorry I not a kid anyways. It would be fun to be 15 again though

In regards to stripperweb.com I've read 1000's of posts (far less recently because after a time, there all alike) and yes, there might intially be a shock factor for some, and it tends to be very very cynical in its overall tone but in truth the real life situation between dancers and customers can be a bit more complex than the impression you get there. Most dancers in real clubs just do their job and don't post anywhere about it - and then perhaps hate some customers, tolerate others, sometimes "like" (rarely "love") other customers and have them as sort of club favorites, and in very very rare cases (sometimes using their club as a sort of supermarket) actually select out certain guys to have a thing with, and literally fall for customers. The later pattern is now and then even discussed on stripperweb.com and personally I know for a fact probably a half-dozen dancers who openly will admit they do exactly that. They look at the club as a sort of candy store, even though 99.99% of the "candy" they don't want. . I find stripperweb very amusing at times, and in fact the first time I went on the site, I was reviewing the posts involving (very recent at the time) this huge battle between BOOK GUY and about 9 dancers. I mean he was really blasting them and they were mad as hell - it was amazingly funny.

Jarblake - that's probably a fair description

Exactly, its my choice. How about leaving it at that?

Faye Flam's article is unusually disjointed when comparing the article heading with the substance of the article. I don't see her backing up the title. The major problem is they seem to discount Alphas as just being about size and ferocity and getting "sex by beating up on other males and then monopolizing multiple females." saying "It's all about sex and social status." JUST all about sex and social status? As if that's a minor issue. In fact there are enormous legacy effects on what this article is trying to trivilize. In any case, no one has ever said Alphas were the only relevant story in man's development. However there are some good points, particularly as it concerns these "sneaky fuckers". A (quite reasonable) question came up a few months ago in exactly how typical stripper boyfriends fit in with the Alpha theory. Now my explanation then was that there are overlapping characteristics between Alphas and these typical stripper B/F types; no not usually in the POSITVE attributes of Alphas, but in some or all of the NEGATIVE ones: namely a generalized disrespect for women, controlling behavior, deceptive (i.e. sleazy) personality traits, in some cases infidelity, and now and then in some cases use of physical force against them, often (based upon many stripper accounts) kicking or shoving or hair pulling etc Now what's interesting is mention of "creative arts" which for stripper many times is these (mostly jobless) musician/artist types - who seem to be one of the main types that stripper attract. Now the article is really pushing it by saying: as for "Sneaker human males may even have used parenting skills to woo mates" Well MAY is the operative phrase at least, because this suggests late stage pair bonding of some type - actually an advanced evolutionary device of sorts (and a much smaller time frame) and not likely to overwhelm the benefits of wide scale seed dispersal and an ultimate genetic survival advantage

the only thing proven is you're an idiot.

i suppose I should post my travel schedule too? and my SS# and tax returns too?

amazing, you apparently actually think over one million net worth is a big deal these days you really are an idiot i don't answer questions from pricks like you

once again STFU