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16 years ago
It COULD mean just about anything----that is the beauty and the beast of it. :)
Since, I'm not normally focused on a "happy ending," even when readily available, I'll try and avoid ILFS sentiments in my future reviews for the sake of clarity. I actually was fully satisfied talking about different books that this hot stripper had read---her recall and explanations were a real treat for *me*.
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16 years ago
I imagine that even when I was young and religious that I would have found AA repulsive and disgusting. Hard work, honesty, empathy, punish not unless ye be punished, many roads to Rome, turn the other cheek, help thy neighbor, protect thy family, etc. were tesselates of God's design as I was taught.
Commanding and approving powerlessness like a grown man or woman is an infant? I guess that is someone's religion. Don't care to be near it much less have it shoved down my throat. AAers that I met also had a perversity concerning "enabling" that was even more sickening. Damn straight I'll be an "enabler" if to fail to help will bring catastrophic or permanent harm----sometimes you need to protect people that have a particular need or weakness even if that protection is only partial or temporary.
Long ago I made the statement we are all sinners and surprisingly met some extreme objections. I had thought that sin was self-evident even to the most goody two shoes angel, but it turns out that was merely a religious teaching. And, these goody two shoes in my eyes are some of the worst sinners even though they seem to have no idea that their acts are evil. Most seemed only capable of seeing their evil if the tables were turned so to speak.
Fuck AA----that is a positive sentiment for most, imho.
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16 years ago
Hi Clubber,
Yes, but it is better than nothing given my so so spelling.
When I write a review my concern generally isn't verbiage or even verbage. It is a balance between verbosity about everything under the sun as pertaining to my visit and the vernacular of fear. In times of old there were exquisite works of steganography when one's ideas or beliefs could lead to one's torture and incarceration. Now, with the speed of modern living, brevity and triteness seem like the preferred escutcheon.
Do I fear Leo? Damn straight home boy! :) A vernacular of fear is the pavement to the promised land sorta like prayers to Allah need be said in Arabic. :) So my fellow stripclubbers need to learn the language of not just BJ or CIM or DATY, but also the dreaded ILFS---"I left fully satisfied."
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16 years ago
They're all black. The only type of women that I don't seem to care for are East Europeans and perhaps the Mongols.
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15 years ago
"Although there are distortions as a side effect, an important property of psychedelics is that they side step much of the mind's normal 'filtering' of reality. Psychedelics are definitely not 'escape' drugs like as I would classify heroin and pain killers as"
Different people may react to drugs VERY differently. The LSD fiend repeatedly described a high that made the world seem like a beautiful place. No matter how sad or disgusting with the LSD he could see "life" that was worth living and worth saving. He talked about colors that he'd never seen before. Without the LSD (a rare event) he was still a very sweet person, but didn't seem able to cope with seeing unhappiness.
I found him in a very low class drug den and he was so different. Very sociable to everyone and wanting to help. He'd quickly end up broke because he couldn't say no to requests for money. His favorite prostitutes specialized in kissing----some asian places, high end, that specialized in that kind of service. The money charged was mind blowing---money meant zero to him. He just wanted happiness for everyone.
I don't think other LSD users had anywhere near the same experience. When I asked him why he didn't push people to try his wonder drugs----most had zero interest, which surprised the hell out of me, he replied for 2 reasons. First, he was very concerned about the quality-----it was illegal and you just didn't know for sure what you're buying. Second, he was afraid of people getting bad trips. He'd never experienced a bad trip, but he'd seen too many; too many could mean one in his way of experiencing the world. He was way too sensitive to any kind of hurt or suffering-----he'd only go to the drug den when he was in heaven. Normally, dealers would search him out. Considering his lack of interest in money and a fat wallet, not a bad idea to offer more convenience and personal service.
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16 years ago
Hi terrymac77,
Good catch. I thought "verbage" was just a misspelling or alternate spelling of "verbiage." If the OP thought that trite phrases used in the reviews are basically content free, then seems like verbage would work nicely.
BTW, Firefox spell checker does show "verbage" as a misspelling for what little that's worth.
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16 years ago
AA must of mellowed a little over the years. The AA adherents that I met many years ago insisted salvation and hope and sobriety were only available by the grace of God.
I can't imagine enjoying that kind of fellowship. I'd probably spout whatever nonsense was demanded to be free of their BS.
OTOH, if a person is into that one size fits all mentality it might "save" 'em.
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16 years ago
For those of you who have a very strong stomach or who are more open minded than I, here are the 12 steps of AA:
The 12 Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous
1.) We admitted we were powerless over alcohol--that our lives had become unmanageable.
2.) Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3.) Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
4.) Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5.) Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6.) Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
7.) Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
8.) Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
9.) Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
10.) Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
11.) Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12.) Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
http://www.aa-louisiana.org/steps.htm
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16 years ago
If succumbing to AA mentality is a necessary for freedom from addiction, then I'd much prefer the addiction. Even a fire and brimstone hell might be better than AA and their mindlessness self-righteousness.
Here is a link for some alternatives to AA: http://www.aanottheonlyway.com/ .
I had watched a documentary on alcoholism treatments and the moderation approach was supposed to be very effective in the UK. The AA approach was pretty much dismissed because its 12 Steps are a canard. You don't have to believe in God or the Pink Unicorn or heaven forbid even AA! You may actually have a mind that can be used to think and reason and find an approach that works for *you*. Tom Hussey told me that he was a miserable failure with AA and to save his life he couldn't stay away from the bottle. He found his miracle cure by accident----Prozac. The way he described it was truly a miracle. I could go out an drink with him; beer, wine, shots and have a blast. I'd never have thought of him being an alcohol or a drunk. He told that if I'd known him before Prozac, then I'd had a totally different picture of him. Before the miracle he had to drink and after the miracle it wasn't a big deal one way or the other.
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16 years ago
Yep. Innocent people can get arrested and convicted. If you're depending on the court system, then good luck.
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16 years ago
Relative to the reviewer. To some customers nice conversation and nice decor and a couple light beers could equal "VERY happy and fully satisfied."
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16 years ago
What I've learned about dancer is that although they're individuals, I see certain traits. Loser boyfriend is one stereotype. Another stereotype is low self-esteem.
Rich customer may be poorer than you, but perhaps she wants to play a game to get you thinking what a fantastic deal you're getting. Customers do get bored with dancers and she might be trying to add a little spice. Get your juices flowing.
Sorry to be a little disrespectful, but you smell fairly desperate. Dancers are using fairly adept at reading customers and playing games. Could be she was hoping you'd break and be "a man." Any scenario is possible.
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16 years ago
The problem with letting the wealthy wait is that he may take his $1,000 and leave and she may lose him as a potential regular. You are right about the richer guy not being as wonderful as she thought.
If you could be just as happy with another dancer, then that is excellent advice. I'm old and it never worked for me. Most of my buddies, however, are pretty much happy with anything. I don't even think they need for the dancer to be female; the old a hole is a hole mantra or the looks are irrelevant belief system.
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16 years ago
"I have nothing good to say about AA."
Welcome back! :) Supposedly, over in the UK the treatment is the exact opposite of AA and is much more successful. The AA people that I met seemed to be in horrible condition even if they by chance they were sober; especially those who believed in the organization.
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16 years ago
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"AP IMPACT: Army charity hoards millions
By JEFF DONN, AP National Writer Jeff Donn, Ap National Writer – Sun Feb 22, 10:21 pm ET
FORT BLISS, Texas – As soldiers stream home from Iraq and Afghanistan, the biggest charity inside the U.S. military has been stockpiling tens of millions of dollars meant to help put returning fighters back on their feet, an Associated Press investigation shows.
Between 2003 and 2007 — as many military families dealt with long war deployments and increased numbers of home foreclosures — Army Emergency Relief grew into a $345 million behemoth. During those years, the charity packed away $117 million into its own reserves while spending just $64 million on direct aid, according to an AP analysis of its tax records.
Tax-exempt and legally separate from the military, AER projects a facade of independence but really operates under close Army control. The massive nonprofit — funded predominantly by troops — allows superiors to squeeze soldiers for contributions; forces struggling soldiers to repay loans — sometimes delaying transfers and promotions; and too often violates its own rules by rewarding donors, such as giving free passes from physical training, the AP found. . . . " http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/army_s_stingy_charity
I don't have much faith in charities; government approved or not, but I wonder what the other side of this story is. Seems like soldiers giving to other soldiers would be ideal----I'm always amazed how most former soldiers have such an ebullient view of the military and the U.S.
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16 years ago
If I was a richer guy, then I'd probably be at Angels or some cheap redneck stripclub in the rural South. Who knows perhaps my taste would become refined and suddenly gentlemen's clubs would appeal to me.
Could be as simple as the rich guy wants to be the big fish in small pond. He wants to be special. Anyway, spending $250 per hour you seem like a rich guy to me. :)
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16 years ago
"What I did not kinda understand was that she could have done an hour VIP and let the wealthier guy wait."
Doesn't seem reasonable at all if money is her main goal. The wealthier client often doesn't have to wait. $1,000 for less work sounds better than $250 for more work, imo.
Sorry to hear about all the trouble you're having lately seeing this dancer on positive terms. Best strategy is probably just to stay away from the club for awhile. Then when you come back be nice to her assuming you still want to get dances from her or be on an upbeat.
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16 years ago
Most of the dancers, actually almost all of the dancers that I know are Christians. Although I don't see stripping and Christianity going hand in hand, not sure there is any Biblical basis for such a view.
Knew some slutty Christians who were just regular women and unless the other party was married, sex wasn't seen as a negative---maybe they need to be reading their Bible differently. ;)
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16 years ago
Hi Clubber,
It is seductive to think that if people just knew economics they would agree with the obvious. I was watching a teacher work very hard to teach introductory economics and he did a very good job, imo. However, when all was said and done some students who finally were able to grasp what he was saying still disagreed! Can you imagine that? At first, I thought these dumb dumbs merely needed more lessons until they truly understood. Understanding wasn't the problem however. Morality was!!! YIKES, that evil word.
See some people may believe that first come first serve should be the rule regardless of relative profits or losses and they may even believe that that should be the law!
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16 years ago
Actually arbeeguy . . . not everyone prefers the extra money. Yes, I realize that seems odd.
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16 years ago
Lesson 1 was cute. :)
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16 years ago
"Yes, many are! Economics is very poorly taught, if at all, in this country."
More interesting is how the media keeps repeating that the U.S. government has to borrow its own money (remember it's a fiat currency) from foreign countries or others. HELLO!!! Is anyone awake? LOL
Even if the U.S. government actually needed to go and borrow its own money from foreigners and little old ladies and whomever, that money most likely (unless created) has to come from depriving other needy borrowers of funds needed to keep business humming along. IOWs, major credit crunch. Don't worry . . . the U.S. government is actually doing the right thing by basically creating dollars out of thin air----and NO!!!!! that doesn't necessarily equal inflation (yes, normally there is some inflation---that inflation might actually be more to do with all types of mandates and laws).
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16 years ago
"The trick is not to get emotionally involved and think that there is more to your relationship than there really is."
Going for the wealthier client doesn't prove much, imo. Especially when she takes the time to explain how much wealthier. My guess is she assumes that "her friend" (or even ordinary client) would understand that, that is too much money to pass and that if he had the same opportunity in his line of work he'd jump on it. The dancer may even expect that a client that truly likes her would be even more sensitive toward her feelings on this issue and want her to be financially successful. Instead she is more like to get a pouty pest in lieu of a "friend" or customer.
Apologize to her and buy a few more dances. OK, that is being a little insensitive on my part. You know, I know ordinary woman who'd be dropping their real lover (for an hour or a day) if a wealthy man is going to be throwing money at them. It would be honey I love you, but you ain't keeping me from getting that new washer/dryer or new sports car or new diamond ring. This pussy needs to grind out some CASH. Does that mean she doesn't love or care about her real lover? Remember her real lover being a "true man" probably fucks as many hoes as are available and is prouder the more pussy he pounds.
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16 years ago
BTW, your point about if there is a more personal connection you don't mind the guy giving her the cash is excellent. If a person likes a dancer and thinks there is personal connection, then it seems like you would want her to make a lot of money with little work.
I felt bad that some dancers wanted to stay with me when a free spending customer would show. It just doesn't seem right to me that I should prevent her from bringing in the money unless I have the capacity to make it up to her. I mean she is working and she needs to remember that she is there to work. Yes, I was a regular . . . but, a poor regular. Better nab the wealthy customer ASAP!!! And, don't make me feel bad by sticking it out with me and my $5. (Yes, I appreciate the "loyalty" real or fake----Bottom line I want her to go and make the money.)
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16 years ago
Hi how,
I like the personal, but if it is just a fantasy that she is selling that is fine. The bottom line is a stripper or regular woman could have feelings for me and that is wonderful, if I like her. However, a perfect performance by a working woman is just as good and perhaps more valuable to me. I don't want a real relationship. I want a fantasy that appears to be a real relationship.
A stripper's focus on money means very little to me, if I can afford her time. It is the heartbreaker beauty that is difficult to find for my eyes. Most customers seem like they can swap the dancers like fast food joints; more power to 'em. Unfortunately, the dancers that cause my heart to beat faster than is safe (even when I was young) are fairly rare and normally aren't easy to work with or are extremely expensive.