Advertisement
forums

>

Front Room
3 weeks ago

An Example of What Not to Do While Trying to Get Extras

I was on main stage at this new club. It’s a four song set. You don’t rotate stages between songs, so you’re stuck there the whole time.

I think I was in my third or fourth song when a distinguished gentleman approached the stage with a generous offering of $2. No greeting and no introduction. No attempt at being a normal human being. Just immediately tries to direct the money into the front of my thong and says with a thick Spanish accent, in two powerful words:

“Wanna fuck?”

I didn’t even look at him. I just stared straight into the dark abyss of the bar in front of me and, completely deadpan, said “Sure,” while taking the $2 out of his hand. Then I stood up, walked to the opposite end of the stage, and stayed there until my set was over.

I made a mental note of where he was sitting and went straight to the locker room. I spent about 10 minutes changing outfits and came back out… and of course he’s still there. Sitting. Smoking. Being gross and existing.

So I detoured to the bathroom instead.

I’d say about two songs passed before I came out, only to get called right back on stage for a review. This club does at least two stage reviews an hour, which is excessive.

As I’m walking by his table, he grabs my forearm and says, “Let’s go fuck.”

I told him I had to go on stage, shook my arm free, and kept walking. He follows me anyway and throws me another $5.

While I’m kneeling on stage, he then demands, “Show me your pussy.”

At this point, I’m almost impressed. Not a single ounce of tact. No adjustment or self awareness. Just full commitment to the worst possible approach. I was almost smitten.

So I tell him, “NO! I’m on stage. This is not the time or place.”

He gets frustrated and then asks, “How much to fuck?”

Now I’m just trying to make this situation go away, so I throw out a ridiculous Flight Club number. “$600.” I figured that would end it.

He says okay. And then sits there waiting.

So now I’m stuck finishing the review while actively trying to figure out how to get out of this and lose this ever so kind handsome and generous gentleman who already showed me exactly how this would go.

Once I got off stage, I took the $7 he had given me, sat down next to him, handed it back, and told him I don’t do what he’s asking. Then I walked away while he laughed.

I don’t even know if he took the money back and I truly don’t care. I’m not putting myself in a situation with someone who immediately raised every red flag possible and showed zero respect for me or my body.

What I wanted to do was explain exactly how disrespectful he was being and why that approach was the problem. But between the likely language barrier and the fact that he clearly wasn’t interested in being respectful anyway, it wasn’t worth the energy.

I can only assume this man has been studying etiquette and the manipulation of sex workers from USASG and its finest contributors, because that was truly a masterclass in how to show the utmost respect for women in general.

I don’t speak for all dancers, but for those of us who do have some level of self respect, that is not how you approach getting extras at an extras friendly club.

comments (33)

Jump to latest
Avatar for ilbbaicnl
ilbbaicnl

Sorry you had to deal with this asshole.

Avatar for Warrior15
Warrior15

Sorry this happened to you. I'm sure he's not the first to act like a total jerk.

The reversal back to you is why we all don't like the "wanna dance" girls. No intro, no communication, no building rapport. Straight to the transaction.

I'm not from Detroit but I have been to Flight Club. Had a great time. But I want to chat with the dancer, get a feel for her personality, make fun for her. Compliment her and make her feel good. If we have chemistry, then that session in VIP is gonna be a LOT better for me.

We're not all jerks. Shrug it off and go find someone else.

Avatar for ClubFan81077
ClubFan81077

I'm not an extras guy, but I've had some amazing experiences with some amazing dancers that came about just because I cared about them as humans. I once had another customer basically ask me what my "secret" was in connecting with a particular dancer, as if I had some kind of trick or formula that I use. I told him bluntly "She's a human being. Treat her like one."

Sorry you had to deal with that guy. I hope most of the guys you encounter behave a whole lot better than that...

Avatar for gSteph
gSteph

I 2nd what ClubFan said ^^

Avatar for skibum609
skibum609

I listen to stories like this pretty much 2-3 times a day at work, but only for the last 44 years. People suck.

Avatar for BubbleYum
BubbleYum

I wasn't trying to get any pity or sympathy for anybody. I wanted to add some wittiness to the shitty behavior of an individual who most likely knows better.

Avatar for wallanon
wallanon

"I wanted to add some wittiness to the shitty behavior of an individual who most likely knows better."

Figured this was the problem. Not the ask per se, but the complete disregard for basic human standards in interactions.

Avatar for skibum609
skibum609

^^ He doesn't know any better. He some cultures look at women and dogs as beings on the same level beneath them.

Avatar for sfrsox
sfrsox

Yeah I;ve seen guys like this many times in SoFlo clubs. It's disgusting. No tact no finesse all misogyny. And usually it's with a $1 not $2. Sorry you had t go through with that. I hope the bouncers get involved more to protect you in the future.

Avatar for nicespice
nicespice

I’m from Texas and know blunt and aggressive Mexicans very well. I actually like that demographic because it’s easy to rack up a lot single dances very quickly. But yeah, gotta wear a choker because they like trying to give hickeys if they can. And gotta dodge out of the way a lot, which they view as a game. Like, as soon as a white guy would move his hand for more mileage, they would end dances right after dodging. But a lot of Mexicans consider that a challenge and keep buying dances. Or they will get a big grin on their face when they have adjusted their pants downward, and you adjust their pants back properly so that they aren’t exposed anymore. (And in Texas, a lot of lap dance areas are just at the corner wall of the club. When they are doing these shenanigans, it’s because they really have no shame ahahahaaha)

There probably isn’t enough of that demographic up there to be your problem, but if you’re at a club with a lot of Mexicans, then I recommend Cesar Milan tactics. 😁 But alas, if it’s a club with lots of spending Mexicans, then the Cubans will flood the place.

Avatar for nicespice
nicespice

That being said, it does seem like Mexicans are more toned down in other states. They might try to get blunt and pushy, but Texas is just its own kind of place.

Avatar for ClubFan81077
ClubFan81077

BY, the wittiness was definitely there and fully appreciated--it's just that decent guys also cringe whenever we see or hear stories like this. You handled it gracefully, and your writing gets an A+. But we wish you didn't even have to fend off people like that in the first place!

Avatar for Mr Monger
Mr Monger

I didn’t read this probably some bs but don’t go to extras club not selling extras. You might get a kick out of rejecting dudes but it’s not cool on our part

Avatar for ClubFan81077
ClubFan81077

@nicespice If you had to estimate, what percentage of guys will ask about (and also respect) your boundaries vs. just trying to see what they can get away with? I'm a big believer in always getting a dancer's permission for any kind of touch. If a dancer doesn't specifically tell me what her boundaries are, I'll ask her myself before we even get started. Her body, her rules...and I'll follow her rules strictly. But I'm wondering if customers who seek permission first are actually in the minority???

Avatar for nicespice
nicespice

@ClubFan81077 🤔 I think that depends on the location. Like in Portland OR, I’d say 90% asking/respecting and 10% see what they can get away with, but in Texas flip those percentages. But those two areas are the most extreme ends and other areas are more in the middle of those?

@BubbleYum Maybe if a customer asks to see your pussy, next time ask for a tip first. And then if he does, pull out your phone and show a photo of your cat 😈

Avatar for Jascoi
Jascoi

I had to laugh that one about the cat…

Avatar for ClubFan81077
ClubFan81077

@nicespice Wow, I wouldn't have guessed any state to be quite so extreme! Having to worry about unwelcome hand roaming for 9/10 customers sounds pretty tough. I've been to clubs in Dallas and Austin, but I never really met anyone I connected with particularly well in either city. I found BDD a bit overwhelming, not unlike stopping at a Buc-ee's for the first time... 😂

Avatar for PhantomGeek
PhantomGeek

A dancer I met in Indianapolis years ago said that she hates dancing for Mexicans because they'll always try to slip a finger in. Just no respect for boundaries.

Avatar for BubbleYum
BubbleYum

@Mr Monger: your name literally describes exactly who this post is about. First of all, maybe you should read the post before commenting. Second, fuck off.

@NiceSpice: 😂😂😂 it's like you know me. Next time I'll just whip out my phone and start showing photos of the 30+ cats I do rescue stuff for lololol. 💀

Avatar for Electronman
Electronman

@BubbleYum. You are a good writer and you've certainly had some "interesting" experiences in the strip club world.

Next time some overbearing customer asks about your future plans, why not tell him: "I'm doing research for a book on "Men behaving badly." At this rate, you may be on the cover of that book."

Actually, you and NiceSpice should co-author a book about your worst, best, and maybe most erotic experiences in strip clubs.

Avatar for wallanon
wallanon

"@BubbleYum. You are a good writer and you've certainly had some "interesting" experiences in the strip club world."

  • 1 to this
Avatar for wallanon
wallanon

Oh, so that's what happens to a plus 1...

Avatar for joewebber
joewebber

first, sorry this happened to you. Second, in some areas of the U.S., saying yes will get you arrested by an undercover. I've dated many dancers over the years, and their experiences with UC were quite enlightening. they told me about situations where the UC will buy dances, and then try to get the dancer to go to VIP. Since the goal with LEO is always to get the dancer to say yes to soliciting, the number figure always goes up. They won't be paying it or buying anything so that number doesn't matter. Most PLs are cheap, and because of this, the number will go down, not up. Please be careful, especially around drunk, rude, and blunt assholes.

Avatar for ilbbaicnl
ilbbaicnl

Unfortunately it's very traditional in Mexico to socialize males to be domineering and have little empathy towards females. Yes, Mexico has a female President. But Sheinbaum is seen as dutifully preserving the legacy of AMLO. My favs have told me Latino guys are the most likely to try to bite you. You have to not let them get their mouth near you, and always lean far forward if you dance backwards on them.
I suspect most strippers would be better off if they followed BY's example, of just letting assholes like this keep their $. When you interact with toxic people, even if you manage to get the upper hand, it increases the risk of depression, anxiety, and becoming toxic yourself.

Avatar for Pussylicker2
Pussylicker2

So let me get this straight. You're at the club working, to make money. But before providing the service you're selling, you want to be mined and dined, charmed and seduced? If I walk into a car dealership, am I suppose to chit chat before asking "how much to buy that car"? His approach will work just fine on a professional. I like to just ask "do you like sucking dick"?

Avatar for rickthehick
rickthehick

@warrior15 for what its worth, im completely okay with the “wanna dance” girls, and plenty of them give good dances and more. The only issue i have had is obviously you wont be attracted to every girl, or even most girls who offer you a dance.

As far as this guy, it sounded like he was foreign, maybe didnt know social norms, or maybe the latinas or others at extra heavy clubs are okay with getting straight to the sex. I dont think a non american dancer would be as offended to the wanna fuck thing

Avatar for Iknowbetter
Iknowbetter

@BubbleYum - I love your stories and insight from the dancer’s perspective. Almost makes me want to book a trip to Detroit. @Nicespice - I still think you are the smartest person on this forum. I appreciate your insights on health and nutrition, and other random knowledge.

But for the record, when a smoking hot Latina rubs up against me in a Pompano club, grabs me in the crotch, looks me in the eyes and says “let’s fuck”, I don’t get offended.

Avatar for ilbbaicnl
ilbbaicnl

@ikb actually, the analogous behavior would be for a stripper to come up to you, say "gimme some money!", pull your wallet out of your pocket, and start taking bills out of it.

Avatar for rickthehick
rickthehick

@iknowbetter what kind of rates do the pompano latinas want

Avatar for boomer79
boomer79

It’s tricky although he went way too hard. I’ve learned it’s best to be direct but you have to establish a little rapport first.

Avatar for Mate27
Mate27

Inquiring minds want to know how do you go about asking for extras? My method is to get to know them a little and the girl will offer, but I never push it.

Avatar for Alfred69
Alfred69

@BubbleYum - I was at a club in Spokane a few years ago. The dancer on stage had a couple of twenty-somethings tipping her, I didn't think anything of it. I went up to the other side of the stage. She came over, I tipped her, she bent over and said "Can I come join you after my dance?" I said, "Sure!" Which she did. After sitting down, she said the kids were being real jerks, pinching her and and trying to cop feels on stage. We had a nice talk, and I eventually got some great dances. Some people seem to think just because they're at a strip club, and they're paying money, they can do whatever they want. It doesn't seem to occur to these numb-skulls that acting nice will eventually get them a lot farther.

Avatar for uniquename
uniquename

I have been asked (via PM) many times how to approach dancers if you are seeking extras.

The answer is always the same, and always simple, be polite, be direct, and above all else, be respectful. She’s a human being just like you and she deserves the same respect you wish from her. It’s really not complicated or difficult. If she doesn’t wish to do what you want, thank her, pay her something for her time, and move along. Respect her boundaries, because if you don’t its rape.

Advertisement