Has anyone else noticed that when you go to a club that is clearly for locals, then try to write a negative review, they disapprove it a lot of the time? Admittedly my last post was a bit more of a "discussion board" topic, but it was flagged for 4 different reasons despite having all the important info. I guess I'm just asking how we keep locals from screwing the reviews given the system?
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What club did you review?
I understand your query but I don’t believe any of us can still read your unapproved reviews? So it’s hard to really comment. I read your most recent review and it seemed appropriate and very well written. But again I can’t see the flagged reviews.
Somewhat OT, but I rarely attempt to adjudicate reviews of clubs I've never been to, unless they are glaringly deficient. If other members follow that practice, then it would be expected that "locals" would tend preponderate as reviewers of any given club. However, I don't see why a local would be more likely to reject a solid review. Obviously, disagreement with the reviewer's opinion isn't a basis to reject a review
Some come on here, looking to review every submission as if it was a college English thesis. Others, will approve pretty much anything posted. I mainly look at clubs I've been to, or hope to one day visit. I will sometimes approve a review that's not 100% complete/accurate, because it does have some good, useful information, and, hopefully it will help to gain even more info. If someone posts a review that talks about some really good service from a girl who I've never known about, but he didn't state the bar measurements, brand of toilet paper, etc, I'm still going to approve it. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
OP how do you know all the rejections are coming from ”locals”?
Just accept the feedback, modify your review and resubmit.
@ww You can often make a good guess what metro someone is in or near from what clubs they've reviewed recently.
With muddy, my guess is he can't stay anywhere very long, without being asked to leave by the local police.
@ilbbaicnl All you can do is guess
And it’s nots even worth looking into. Any member can look at and vote on a review. OP complaint isn’t a problem.
This thread should not be construed to mean there are any flaws whatsoever in The System(TM).
Damn straight Libby ape (or @ilbbaicnl or whatever the fuck your name is).
The System(TM) is a work of genius on par with the Principia or general relativity. If you wanna know how little time will pass if you travel to Tau Ceti at 99% the speed of light you consult with Einstein’s work…but if you wanna get extras you consult with the dugan’s work. ROAR!!!
@rickthelion Good to hear from you, your every post reassures us you haven't been killed in a pride takeover.
@ilbbaicnl I'd guess that our buddy @rickthelion can handle a lot of the situations he might encounter in the wild, although a wildebeest behind the wheel of a Cybertruck might make him a bit nervous!
Also, kudos to our roaring friend for working time dilation into a TUSCL discussion... 😃
@ClubFan81077 rickthemuskox would never sell a Cybertruck to a wildebeest trying to defy its fate as rickthelion's dinner.
Haha. Glad this sparked conversation. I love the site, and to be clear, the issue I mentioned has only happened to me twice. And both times I could tell it was a regulars place. As for why the local would reject the review, I specifically complained about the bartender who has probably served the guy 100 (of his own) beers because it is a BYOB that you buy your drinks back from establishment. Can you explain why the review would be flagged for 4 different reasons?? I did call the bartender a cunt in it, but that doesn't seem sufficient to flag it as "not genuine" since she was definitely a cunt.
I think you will know when it happens to you based on the vibe at the place and the rejection, kind of like seeing pornography, you know it when you see it.
Again, I do not want to throw the baby out with the bathwater. This site has been a great for me...just pointing out an incentives misalignment.
@cooldood Maybe @ww is the bartender's dad.
@cooldood if you used the word “cunt” as a descriptor, while I didn’t see your review, I’m not surprised some wouldn’t approve it.
Based on info you’ve provided in this thread, sounds like the system did its job.
Accept the feedback, modify your review and resubmit.
@ww Personally, I don't like the term GPS. It just seems to mean a stripper chooses to drive a hard bargain, or even not be an extras dancer, which is her right. Should I try to block every review that says a dancer has GPS, cause that's my personal opinion?
@ilbbaicnl Your vote is one of many to do with how you wish.
If most feel the same as you, then the review won’t be approved.
The result is still the same: accept the feedback, modify your review and resubmit.
@ww It's not a very fruitful thread, since the OP won't paste in his review. But if all the no votes are for different reasons, might not be clear how to make everyone happy. It could hypothetically be a problem if a group of members with an ax to grind want to censor certain info about a particular club.
@cooldood Chances are that none of the presumed locals who were in the club when you and your buddy bigfooted the place are even TUSCL members, let alone that 4 of them individually or collectively decided to torpedo your review. Personally, I’d be tempted to reject a review specifically because referred to a bartender as a “cunt”, but would resist that temptation if the review checked the necessary boxes, because my personal standards aren’t necessarily the standards of the site. I’d let 4 other members decide whether to reject or approve
@cooldood I recently used "witch" as an alternative to the c-word, if that helps.
@Manuellabore
You are correct that I have no idea if the rejection actually came from locals. I could post their usernames, but that feels like it violates privacy.
@cooldood
Actually, I just looked them up, at least 2 rejections definitely locals based on their reviews. one specifically refered to it as his "old haunt" and has 3 reviews for it. The other has ONLY reviewed that club... Many times
Also, it is worth noting it was a poor man's club and my friend and I monopolized the only two attractive (ish) dancers all night. It was obvious they did not want us there. Given the review, anyone there would know it was mine.
Locals and tourists do not always look for exactly the same thing in a strip club. For example, locals might like having regulars but tourists do not like being ignored by strippers who would rather spend time with their regulars. I think I wrote my reviews a little more for locals. This caused me sometimes to leave out information tourists want. I have learned over the years, though, you can't please everyone so you should do what you want in life, as long as what you are doing is not seriously harming others.
Personally, I only vote on reviews for clubs I'm familiar with. Edit: with the exception that I'll down-vote some piece of garbage because it's so poorly written.
If you are daring and can see it, why not repost your original and see if anyone gives you some solid reasons?
@Flash4 ... you mean copy and paste the rejected review in this discussion? I would like to see it. And maybe even give an opinion on it.
@Jascoi
I just did. I acknowledge it isn't exactly checking all the boxes, but it has useful information, and I get tired of describing a club that has been described 100 times before
Here is the review for anyone to evaluate and weigh in.
Subject line: grumpy dwarf bartender Ok, it's a weird place. we ubered, but I probably wouldn't park nearby. When I got there the doorman asked me to run to the corner store to buy him chew. Not a big deal, we had to get beers anyway to locker them at the bar (and then buy them back for $3 dollars each). This is definitely a locals place and I definitely didn't feel welcome. In fact, after I tried to get the third round of quarters, the bartender said it's not that kind of place and we got into an argument and she asked me to leave. Maybe we weren't tipping her enough, but it was our beer, so I don't really know how to handle it. Honestly, I had plenty of Benjamins in my pockets...I would have been happy to drop some more money at the bar, but she came in like a cunt, and I responded badly.
Anyway, the girls are very average, with two latinas being a big step up from the others. I saw 5 dancers total. I monopolized one of the latinas all night and it was worth the $400 spent for three trips to the lap dance area. S to S contact, probably could have asked for more, but I worry about bringing something home. Honestly, this was my second strip club of the day and she had to work, but work she did, and we had a fairy tail ending. She was open to very mutual contact, even encouraged it. OTC is an option, I got her number (which was real cause she misplaced her phone and had me call it), but I had no intention of following through.
This place has been described a lot, lapdance room is not a VIP room and certainly not private, but the girls try to pick the booths that give you an option. King of shappy, but the seats are a good depth for grinding. Dances are 20, but I just gave her 100 each time and felt like I got my money's worth each time.
One last strange thing, the doorman was definitely chill, but when we chatted cause of the chew purchase, he specifically told me to avoid that girl cause she was in a bad mood. I'm assuming this was him just trying to get some of the other girls business, but it was patently wrong and her and I had a great time.
@cooldood I would have approved, although I don't know what shappy means.
@ilbbaicnl
Admittedly that was a typo/autocorrect..."kinda shabby".
Thanks for your proverbial approval. I looked at the rejections and my suspicion was confirmed, two of the rejection came from accounts that heavily review the place...one person has only ever reviewed this specific club, and weirdly keeps giving it 9s....which is absurd if you've been.
@cooldood wait your saying you have to bring your own beer in, pay to store it at some lockers and then pay for them to serve out your own beer to you? And on your third request for your own beer, the bartender refused to serve it to you..?
Were they willing to give back your stored beer to you before kicking you out the club..? If not that sounds like theft.
You should have smacked that bartender across the face before leaving. Also you may be right in your review being rejected for bias.
Theres no way for an online review site to detect who is leaving reviews or making an account so it could easily be an owner, employee, family member or friend of an employee leaving those positive reviews. Too bad you didnt knock that bartender out
@ilbbaicnl... ditto. I would approve too.
I appreciate the support, but I think I'm morally opposed to knocking out a middle aged 4ft tall woman.
I didn't think about it until I started this whole thread, but yea, it is clear that two of the accounts rejected for illegitimate reasons. One of them just keeps scoring the place a nine across multiple reviews. C'est la vie, overall I'm very happy for the existence of this site, so you take the good with the bad.
@cooldood you paid her $100 per lapdance instead of the actual $20 cost per lapdance?
Thats ridiculous… and when you give away that kind of money, it can often have the reverse effect and make them treat you worse. Your inflating rates for yourself. If your goal is only dances- your still overpaying by a lot
@rickthehick
No, I paid her 100 for five ish songs but didn't keep track. It felt roughly like 5 songs, but I put down the 100 at the beginning to avoid the negotiation and if they can work fast enough for it, they are welcome to leave the booth early....it's a strategy that has worked well.
@cooldood what di you mean if they can work fast enough for it?
The only perfect system in The System(TM).
What is a “third round of quarters” mean?
There a lot of areas of your review that are vague or require interpretation. I probably would’ve approved but there are parts that seem exaggerated.
That’s not a bad thing but there is more specifics giving regarding your interactions with the doorman and bartender than with the girls you were with or saw.
Sounds like you need to find a different club. On the other hand, I kind of respect old dusty locals who feel the need to defend their crappy club - if in fact this is what happened.
I think we talked this to death, thanks for the input. I'm going back to using the site for it's real purpose. Laterz gators
@cooldood TUSCL discussions don't work that way topics are like Jason from Friday the 13th.
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