Single? Mothers

I don't get close enough to most dancers to know if they have kids. My favs make enough money to afford a baby sitter if they do. Father might also be involved co-parenting exists. And I don't go to the club to support anyone but myself.

Grandma

jackslash babysits them and feeds them lasagna.

Unsuspecting grandma who thinks her daughter is a bartender

Grandma works day shift

my guess that 2/3 of them have children.

When shes a single mom. Her mom or man often pull the syrings

Possibly a room mate. Some may just leave their kids unattended ?

A lot of the milfs I've met work day shift while their kids are at school.

I was at a club where a stripper had her daughter (about 10 years old) AT THE CLUB. Babysitting issue. The kid sat at the end of the bar doing homework under the watchful eyes of the bartender. Later she moved to the dressing room.

Yesterday was the dancer's kid's b-day. Was so great seeing pics of her kid, reding his text and then getting a b.j., wtf.

Yes, a lot of them have kids. IME it's usually either family or loser SOs at home with them.

You call the guy who fucks her for free a loser. But youre soliciting and paying her....

Anyways its no different from any working single mother

===> "You call the guy who fucks her for free a loser."

There's no such thing as free. Fucking strippers for free costs too much. He's stuck with her when the fucking is done and the hee haw/ghetto drama ensues. 😉

Yes, at least half have kids I would guess. Most mothers in the US do paid work out of financial necessity. Stripper mothers do what mothers in general do in regards to childcare. Except that pre-school type daycare is generally not available nights and weekends. One of my favs would bring her baby to OTC sometimes.

Rickdugan having disdain for the women you pay to fuck is misogynistic and stems from your insecurities with women.

Icey I have no disdain for them at all, just an understanding that I would never want that in my life. Fucking a girl and dating her are two very different things.

The only disdain I feel is for the loser SOs who are so broke and weak that they're willing to tolerate other men fondling and even fucking their women. Maybe adopting this us vs. them "trick" nomencature is how these weak men cope with being perennial cucks, Idk.

That should have been nomenclature lol.

The thing is every case ive seen with the stripper having an SO, the SO isnt allowed to bang other girls or even get lapdances at the same club. Where else do you see a situation where an SO isnt even allowed to support your place of business?

Theres also all kinds of reddit and stripperweb discussing this concept. Its not cheating when the dancer dances or bangs customers because shes getting money. But the SO cant get even a lapdance.

Of course the other type of dancer with SO is one who provides airdances or tries scamming customers ITC.

If the SO isnt allowed to see any other girls that is a form of payment. And if the SO babysits the kids like a bitch while the dancer is out dancing, thats also payment. Hes saving the costs of hiring a babysitter.
A lot of these dancers have no respect for the SO. They see the SO as someone desperate enough for sex that they are willing to tolerate a bunch of hassles, embarrassment, emasculation, etc.

I think a lot of strippers have kids, its less than half of the ones I see regularly but its still a good chunk. I think my body type preference skews my results from the average though, so my results may not be representative of the larger pool. Of the ones I talk to openly and don't suspect of feeding me bullshit to service a romance or pity hustle, the majority of the kids are looked after by a relative; usually the grandmother or aunt. Often times it's part of an exchange, they've all got kids that need watching and 1 of em watches them for the other 2 while they're at work. Or the ones with slightly older kids have them in school and aftercare programs.

I think the old stereotype that the day shift dancers are more apt to be mothers has some truth to it too. So customers who predominately are day shifters may have a different perspective than the late night crowd. I know around here, even with the law removing the 18-20 year olds, the night shifts tend to be more younger girls who are less likely to have kids. The Pompano clubs may be an aberration, with their strong day shifts and early closing times, but in Palm Beach and Dade where the clubs close at 5-8am, the average age at night is probably a solid 5 years younger.

===> "A lot of these dancers have no respect for the SO."

@RMD: I've seen this a lot too. But IME it wasn't because of the SOs desperation for sex. It was because their SOs became part of their financial burdens. Often this gets especially bad when a dancer gets burnt out and wants to stop dancing, but feels like she can't because she has to support herself, her kids (if applicable) and the loser SOs. Resentment quickly sets in from there.

Some of my best first time OTC events arose from these conditions. Girls who previously declined because they had SOs finally get fed up with it all and said fuck it.

From there the relationships fell apart sooner rather than later. The biggest trap that a loser SO can fall into is becoming dependent on the money that his stripper SO brings home. If he truly wants longevity with the girl and doesn't want her cheating on him, the best thing he can do is to try to get her off the pole ASAP.

The type of woman is a direct reflection of you. Pretending youre some kind of savior rescuing her from the man she chooses, by paying to fuck her. Is delusional.

The job itself doesn't correlate with any specific levels of toxicity. Ive seen more toxicity with women in the legal and medical fields.

Trying to change a woman is one of the easiest ways to lose her. Accept her as she is and she'll elevate if you lead by example.

Also. Telling tricks their relationship is bad is a form of pity hustle and a way to lead the trick on.

@Dolfan, I think "moms on the dayshift" is an international phenomena, not just a SoFla thing. For example, I see the same thing in Tijuana where day shifters are significantly more likely to have kids than chicas working at night.

There's plenty of exceptions obviously, but on average, more moms during the day.

===> "Trying to change a woman is one of the easiest ways to lose her."

So is being dependent on her stripper income when she doesn't want to do it anymore or is even just having a bad stretch. The the loser SO just becomes one more burden.

I'm definitely not trying to save anyone, lmao. I'm just out to have a good time and leave the mess behind me when I'm done. Also, while I've been doing this way past long enough to recognize a hustle when I hear it, what do I care either way? If she needs to paint a picture for me to feel OK being bent face first over my hotel bed then cool beans. 😉

And yet again with the "trick" stuff? You sound like a goofy child.

I've always wondered what kind of POS a guy must be to rely upon his woman to mess around with other guys for his living. I guess I just can't imagine living the cuck life of a useless broke ass, calling the men she has to keep happy "tricks" to keep her under control and deflect from the fact that he's actually her biggest problem. SMFH. 😂

Its not just a dancer telling her trick her relationship is bad. If you look at the numerous discussions on r/stripper or stripperweb you can see it come through. The IRL dancers may hide having an SO entirely unless she thinks the client wont care or its a hustle. She could just as easily be running hustles on her SO telling him she doesnt kiss clients or a variety of other things to attempt to placate the SO

I dont think an SO is just a guy she happily chooses. Her being a dancer or sex worker drastically limits the pool of guys willing to date her. Even some guys who want to do it wont because of embarrassment with family or friends. So her SO is a guy she settled for out of a limited pool of guys. Being a single mother also restricts that pool further. Since her SO is likely a guy she settled for, it makes it all the more easier and guilt free if she cheats, bangs other guys, performs lapdances etc

@RMD: I think that's part of it. But IMO their backgrounds also play a heavy roll. A lot of these girls grow up in broken homes, living hand to mouth, surrounded by other kids growing up the same way. To the extent that they had older male father figures in their lives at all, these guys inevitably disappointed them. They also learn to feel contempt for those who lead what might be considered "normal" lives, fueled in part by their general distrust of men.

So when they start dating, they gravitate to what they know and can relate to. You can't turn a natural born hustler into Betty Crocker no matter how much you wish to. I learned this all too well during my early 30s when I briefly dated a stripper, long before I became a regular club hound. We were just two different creatures.

Her Significant other is a man ahe chose. While she gets paid for being other mens fantasy.
Youre triggered by them having relationships because the only way you can have her is to pay her. The delusion that her man is a bum and youre her savior by paying to fuck is delusional.
Nothing childish about qhat im saying. You also said it was childish to say having an addiction to hookers is bad for a marriage 🤡

They have disdain for tricks. They see married men being unfaithful. People like you cause disdain. Not men in general

It feels good for the ego perhaps, to say a stripper chose her SO or to present it as an accomplishment, that it was an arduous task. But any woman willing to bang for $200-$300 isnt going to be difficult to get into a relationship with. Things arent as simplistic as paying for sex means she doesnt like you and not paying for sex means she likes you. Its not a royal princess where thousands of men are begging to date her.

Yes. I love milfs and that’s why I love day shift.

Icey, is that whole "fantasy" theory still floating around in the clubs? LOL. I haven't heard it for a while.

But anyhoo...I think most guys, and certainly long time club hounds, understand the difference between the "fantasy" (lol) a girl presents in the club and the likely reality of her real life. You can't turn an alley cat into a house cat, nor would I for one ever want to try. 😉

I'll leave the rest of that goofy nonsense alone, except to say that using the word "trick" yet again still makes you sound like a child. But I can see why you'd like the term. When you were living with and pimping out that crack ho, your useless broke ass needed a way to manipulate her while deflecting from the fact that you were actually her biggest problem. 😆

Your evasiveness proves you know im right.

Sure Icey. 😉

I am again so glad I'm single again... ain't no problem seeing other ladies. I don't have to hide my activity. but it does cost some money because I got to pay spousal support. but it's soooo nice being away from her... going on 14 years now split and divorced.

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One of the dancers at one of my favorite clubs answered 80% to that very question, and much to my surprise, it included herself.🫤

@RonJax - I didn't/don't think moms on dayshift is the aberration, I think that's the norm. What I was trying to say was that I think Pompano not having such a strong correlation is unusual.

Women with school age kids try to get day shift in any field.

@ATAC, yep, I was told 90-95% where I frequent, and several had zero obvious baby damage 😲 That seemed shockingly high to me... but after thinking about it more, I've come across several YOUNG milfs over the years in various clubs

I think strippers are maybe more likely to have at least one kid than women in general in their 20s. Sometimes supporting kids is what motivates them to start. But, I think it may be more common that they plan a pregnancy, or keep an unplanned one, because they feel more financially secure than most people in their 20s.

A pregnancy in their physical prime hurts them though. They lose a lot of money with it. But at least bget snap and ebt and everything.

Keeping the pregnancy allows them access to child support they wouldn’t be able to get otherwise. Its not just about strippers earning more and feeling more financially secure.

===> "Keeping the pregnancy allows them access to child support they wouldn’t be able to get otherwise. "

Obviously you mean from the government, like SNAP, WIC and Medicaid for them and the kid(s). Because from the countless stories I've heard over many years, most of these girls seem to be collecting little if any meaningful child support from the baby daddies.

Child support doesnt mean anything unless hes rich. In many cases its under $200 a month. Gov benefits tend to be minimal as well. Now add to it the time she cant work and how it fucks her body up. Having a kid has zero benefits for a stripper

Oh right, with the stripper baby daddies they may not be getting much because the guys werent making much. I was thinking of other child support cases ive heard of where the guy was paying a big % of income in child support

The vast majority of men dont earn enough for high child support payments. Nothing to do with strippers

Well with strippers the problem is the guys willing to bang them raw often arent making much money. But child support laws are inherently flawed and possibly the number one thing holding men back from having kids who otherwise would. It makes no sense for a guy to be paying thousands in child support per month. I agree that fathers should be paying their share of the kids expenses, but even then, if the dad was tricked into having the kid, either via faulty condom, lying about birth control etc he shouldn’t have to pay. They encourage scammerish behavior where certain girls will pursue kids with someone for profits. Even if you make 100k a year youll have to pay too high a % in child support

===> "The vast majority of men dont earn enough for high child support payments. Nothing to do with strippers"

Bullshit Icey. Out here in the real world plenty of guys are paying meaningful child support. You just don't know that because you surround your self with other fucktards like you. 😉

Rick. American wages say otherwise

Icey, the average U.S. salary is 66k. That's more than enough to extract several hundred per month. I've seen it, countless times. Maybe leave your Mom's basement, stop using your fucktard pals as a measuring stick and visit the real world for a while.

Averages are very skewed stats. Most people make under 50k

===> "Most people make under 50k"

The median is 65k, so horseshit.

That means most make under 50k ... People dont earn much. Then look whats left after taxes.

If 65k is the median, it means that "most" don't make under 50k. Google "median" dude. People in that tax bracket pay very little in taxes.

The median is usually lower than the average, which generally skews higher, the median is generally the center line,?with half below and half above.

The paying parent pays between 20-35% of their gross as child support, depending on variables.

I googled it. Thats gross income.
For the year 2022, the U.S. Census Bureau estimates that the median annual earnings for all workers (people aged 15 and over with earnings) was $47,960; and more specifically estimates that median annual earnings for those who worked full-time, year round, was $60,070.

Average child support.
Average: The U.S. Census Bureau estimates an average monthly payment of $430.

20-35% is crazy. Cant they also request to increase it if they find out the paying parents salary went up

My son and his wife have average jobs and pay more that their house pmt in child care. About $35,000 per year for two preschool kids. And that is after tax dollars.
Of course they could pay less if they want some off the books unlicensed bullshit arrangement but they actually like their children.

623 what precisely are they using those funds on? Are they hiring a babysitter? Is it a private school? Or does that number include rent costs of some sort?

That comes out to $17500 per year, per kid, which is $1458.00 per month, per kid.

Sorry but that is completely absurd. You dont need to buy clothes every month. Clothes and shoes last a while. School supplies arent that expensive. Food isnt that expensive, even high quality organic stuff.

If theyre spending $1500 a month on a kid, there is either excessive babysitting costs involved. Or they are eating at high end restaurants regularly. Or doing some sort of really expensive catering service.

Even if you get into the nitty gritty and calculate the additional health insurance costs of adding a kid onto the family plan… calculate the specific utilities usage of each kid every month… it still shouldn’t come out to $1500 per month.

My grocery/food bill is right at $500 a month. But thats because i choose to keep it there. That includes a lot of organic foods, organic milk, eating out once or twice per week. I could actually lower that down significantly, if I was willing to switch the types of foods i was eating and eat out less.

RMD, you obviously have no practical experience with children, lol. Kids are expensive man.

Everything is more expensive, starting with more space for housing, a bigger car and insurance premiums on both. That's lots of added monthly payouts right there.

Health insurance and out of pocket medical costs (copays, deductibles) are also a real thing. Kids get sick a lot as their immune systems are developing and they go to schools that are basically germ factories. They also get injured sometimes when they are physically active.

Then there is dental costs. Even if you have dental insurance, there are also copays for every procedure beyond a routine cleaning (tooth pulls for stubborn baby teeth, fillings, etc. I paid $8k alone to put one of my kids in braces, which was not covered by any insurance.

And yes, food costs are a real thing, especially when they are in their teens and/or going through growth spurts. Teens will often eat anything not nailed down, so it's important to have good options. Fresh meat and produce are expensive, especially with a household full of kids who prefer fresh berries. Also add school lunch costs (easily $100+ per month per kid and often more), since you can't send a kid into school with a microwaveable container with last night's leftovers. 😉

Clothing is also a real thing since they grow out of it quickly. It's not an every month expense, but 2-3 times per year I pony up real money to update their wardrobes.

I won't even get into the costs of entertainment, holidays (especially Christmas), birthdays (them and presents for their friends who invite them to their parties), vacations, and other social and entertainment costs. Sure you can argue that these are discretionary, but what parent doesn't want to give their kids a Christmas or support their social activities?

And then there are extracurricular activities, like music, dance, travel sports teams, etc.,etc.,etc. One year I paid $10k for one child alone to to compete in an activity that the child became good in. I've pad lesser but still hefty annual amounts for the other kids to do different things. Again you could argue that there is a lot of discretion in these expenses, but what parent doesn't want to provide enrichment and competition opportunities to their children when they can?

They are very, very expensive dude.

Daycare is easily like $100 a day in major cities. groceries are expensive. A family can spend $300+ a week on just the basics. Say you have 2 kids. Even at In N Out that's like $50 never mind a sit down restaurant.

$100 a day is $36,500 a year. That means its not even worth a parent working a job unless theyre earning 60k+.

@rickdugan i know what my own expenses were, and i know roughly what the expenses of other kids are. It doesnt cost $1500 per month to raise a kid. Braces are a once in a lifetime expense. My braces only cost 2.5k. Medical copays are only $10 an appointment and annual physicals are covered.
If youre paying beyond the basic copay costs for a kids medical expenses, that means your kid is in a unique situation and either needs surgeries or has a medical condition.
As far as extra curriculars, it also depends what extra curriculars youre referring to. Playing any basic sport, wont have much additional expenses. I went through highschool, i know what expenses are involved in all this stuff.

10k a year on extra curriculars isnt the norm for anything. You possibly got hustled by someone or are doing an extracurricular that is somehow extremely expensive or has extreme travel costs. It certainly doesnt cost anything to play basketball, baseball, lacrosse, or football.

If you’re preparing food at home, costs for that are low even if its organic high quality stuff. Berries are expensive but bananas, dried fruit, potatoes, numerous other fruits arent. Meat, even organic ground beef or chicken are inexpensive.

“Expensive” is a subjective term, but i know that it doesnt cost $1500 a month to raise a kid that goes to public school, unless you have daycare/babysitter expenses or some sort of expensive healthcare/food arrangements. Even if you want to buy name brand clothing, you can get nike t shirts for $10 each.. ralph lauren polos for $35 each… shoes for $40+ each.

@RMD: Dude, stop already. We don't need to hear how much your own braces cost 20 years ago, or how untalented you were in pretty much anything. You also obviously have no idea what can come up regarding kids medical, dental or other expenses. You also ignored everything else I talked about. You don't know shit.
But I will educate you on one thing RMD. You have been introduced to why single mom strippers really suck dick in much higher %s than the childless stripper population. It has nothing to do with basic expenses like healthcare and food. Most of these girls and their kids get free healthcare via Medicaid and they also get SNAP and WIC to help with food. Where a lot of their money goes is to giving their kids the lives that they see other kids living. Electronics (including smart phones), trendy clothes, birthday/Christmas gifts, nights out at the movies and in restaurants, etc., etc.
Parents feel enormous pressure to give their kids what the kids' friends have. In many cases they are also battling guilt over coming up short for their kids.
There's a reason why I budget extra fun money for the 3rd week of December. It is a magical time when NOs quite often turn to YESs. And it's not just OTC with strippers. Seeking also experiences a surge of what I call Holiday SBs, some who I see pop up year over year, lol.
This first clinic was free. The next one may come with a surcharge. 😉

@dugan if your kid has excessive medical expenses, or youre using a shitty tier of dental/health insurance thats on you. You claim your insurance covered nothing, mine covered 50% of the braces cost. I had different medical insurances growing up, but there was either no copay or a minor $10-$20 copay. Braces are a once in a lifetime thing, and a kid shouldnt generally need to be going to the doctor beyond emergency situations or yearly physical. It costs almost nothing to add your kid onto a family medical or dental insurance plan.

Dugan, whats funny on this particular topic is that unlike other areas where you could argue having “practical experience” it means jackshit in this scenario. Im here, i exist, and that fact alone means i went through a childhood of some sort, and therefore had “practical experience” into the relevant costs.

You can call me untalented if it makes you feel better about your kids expenses, ill repeat, it costs nothing to be on the swim team, or the football team, or the basketball team, or baseball, or lacrosse. I assure you, theres plenty of poor kids playing at, and excelling in basketball and football and even the swim team. If your spending 5k a year or 10k a year on highschool or middle school level sports for your kid, in no way does that mean it is anywhere close to the norm. It isnt the norm and certainly isnt necessary in any shape or form. It also doesnt mean your kid is more talented than anyone else just because you spend 10k a year on whatever activity your referring to.

You can complain to God or your therapist if your kid has excessive medical bills or costs 10k a year to play a sport. Dont come to me whining about how untalented i was, lol. According to you it costs thousands of dollars a year to play varsity basketball or football? You’re completely clueless and getting hustled by whoever is feeding you this nonsense. I suggest you contact the school system directly yourself, instead of potentially being hustled into paying a third party 8-10k a year on a highschool extracurricular activity. 10k a year is literally a year of college tuition. Im sorry but you lost on this one.

And yeah, nonsense like the latest electronics, designed clothing or jewelry can easily add up to thousands. But that really is backpedaling on your part. If your upgrading the iphone or laptop every year, thats something even working professionals dont do. Nike shoes are $100+. For monthly expenses to be at $1500 a month, there is an excess of some sort in either medical, food or other discretionary spending. It doesnt cost much to do your basic sports and extra curriculars.

Kids are really expensive. This is per kid...and just bare minimums for example
$350 at least to put them on an insurance plan
$150 for a phone
$100 for extracurricular activities per month
$120 if they eat school lunch. Lunch money or making them lunch will cost way more.

$350 a month for insurance doesnt make sense. The rates for a family plan go down as you add people

Regarding lunch, making a lunch shouldnt cost more, but it requires more time investment.

$150 a month on a phone, means youre buying the latest iphone every year, not trading in prior years phone model at all either. Thats just not a realistic scenario. Theres people making six figures who dont upgrade their personal phone until every 3-4 years. And when they do so, they trade in the previous iphone , plus sign a 2 year contract with the phone company which can often bring the cost of the new phone down to zero.

Similar to insurance, the rates go down as you add people onto a family phone plan. Even if we say youre getting the kid the latest iphone every single year, as absurd as that is, you should at least be trading in the prior years iphone when upgrading to the newest one, which will significantly lower the costs.

You're making up weird scenarios like you have no idea if costs and are just trolling.

===> "Dugan, whats funny on this particular topic is that unlike other areas where you could argue having “practical experience” it means jackshit in this scenario. "

Does it now Boy Blunder? 😉

Being a child once yourself gives you no insight into the current economic realities, nor does it educate you on what pressures parents face to do as much as they can for their kids.

Now could a parent bare bones it? Sure. Ghetto parents do it all the time. They get free medical and dental for their kids through Medicaid, buy cheap crappy (and often less healthy) food with help from food assistance (SNAP and WIC), live in cheap housing inevitably zoned for bad school districts, don't provide extracurricular enrichment opportunities for their kids (music, dance, competition sports for kids good enough to make travel teams) and do what they can afford for birthdays and Christmas. But the result of all of that is, not surprisingly, ghetto kids.

But the rest of us, those who don't produce ghetto kids and get free government assistance, spend a bloody fortune. I've already outlined it and you're arguing with me from a position of complete ignorance. I wasn't even exaggerating a little I'm sad to say. But if you want to keep arguing, address everything I said instead of cherry picking things that you know little about.

I won't even get into things like contributions to 529 plans for college, SAT prep tutoring, etc. It's seemingly fucking endless, lol, at least if you do it right.

Being poor doesnt mean parents dont try or care. They do what they can with what they can. And doesnt mean their kids end up ghetto. Nor is their shame in accepting the measly help the gov gives.

===> "Nor is their shame in accepting the measly help the gov gives."

Hardly as measly as you believe. Combined SNAP and WIC food benefits for a single Mom and 2 kids are about $1,000 per month. On top of that, the same family is receiving absolutely free medical (and for the kids dental) care via Medicaid, which is also extremely valuable. In many instances, these families are also receiving housing assistance, disability payments (for the mom or one of the children) or both.

And this is part of the problem. We've made it too easy for too many to choose the path of least resistance. Over 20% of our population is on Medicaid, roughly 13% receive SNAP and almost 12% are on disability. A good chunk of the SNAP and Medicaid recipients are poor families. In 2021, over 40% of live births here in the U.S. were funded by Medicaid.

Thats not true. You have to be in abject poverty to qualify for a lot of programs. For example in California a single mom with one kid would have to earn below 28k a year to get Medi-Cal. The problem is that there are so many people in dire poverty. Not that so many receive help.

I’m not going to tell anyone about the costs of raising kids, I will just say I’m glad that I did have them, they’ve been a constant source of joy in my life, I couldn’t imagine my life without either of them.

@rickdugan the thing is youre backpedaling on your original comment and debunking your own initial argument. You originally claimed $1500 a month is just basic food and healthcare costs, but then later on expounded it and began talking about designer goods and electronics and now mentioning things like setting aside money for college. Of course when you include all those kinds of expenses you will easily average out to $1500 a month or even surpass far beyond that. But your original claim of just food and healthcare and extracurriculars totaling out to 1500 a month was still untrue or an exaggeration even by your own admission.

Anyway regarding 623’s initial comment of 35k a year for two preschool kids, he was actually referring to the daycare costs year round for the two kids.

Of course if you include designer goods, college savings funds, expensive 10k a year extracurriculars they will be very expensive. I dont know what you mean when you say address everything you said.

some of the stuff you mentioned simply had little relevance or wasnt a major point. Something like eating berries. Raspberries are very expensive yes, at $6 a pound, and its very easy to consume a lot of them. You could easily spend $20 a day per person if they wanted to eat lots of berries. But by that measure you could even include fancy cuts of steak, or sushi or caviar as part of a daily diet and say see food is so expensive.

As far as needing a bigger car, thats not the case, cars already seat 4 or 5 people, if you need more storage space you can get an suv.

I dont know what else you wanted me to address. Of course if you include college funds or berries or childcare costs or braces or 10k a year extracurriculars you will easily meet or surpass $1500 a month per kid

Icey the thing regarding making less than 28k a year… someone who earns cash income can probably lie and claim to make less than that

@rick
“Hardly as measly as you believe. Combined SNAP and WIC food benefits for a single Mom and 2 kids are about $1,000 per month. On top of that, the same family is receiving absolutely free medical (and for the kids dental) care via Medicaid, which is also extremely valuable. In many instances, these families are also receiving housing assistance, disability payments (for the mom or one of the children) or both.”

Regarding this, if a guy has kids with a girl isnt it better if they remain unmarried so the girl can qualify for all those benefits, whereas if they were to marry, she would lose eligibility for those benefits if the guy made above a certain dollar amount