Google AI on stripper incomes

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docsavage
Just out of curiosity, I asked Google AI for average stripper incomes. It said $36, 500 per year average with most girls making between thirty and forty five thousand. Is that range what you think you see in strip clubs? I see a much wider range. A few strippers seem to sell one lap dance after another while large numbers struggle to sell any. Customers look to me like they pretty much agree on the most attractive girls in the club and all go after the same ones.

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Try asking for median income and post results from that.
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Manuellabore
a month ago
Sooo many variables. I can only speculate on dancer take-home based on what I regard as candid, offhand dancers, Filtering out what sounds like empty boasting, I've heard a lot more seemingly candid comments from dancers, or former dancers, who seem like they should be able to make bank but net out almost nothing during a shift, to the point where they turn to escorting. Dancer work ethic is another factor, as is the dancer's business model. Are they chasing down plain vanilla LDs or are they holding out for VIPs? Is the club one where they can rake in big tips for providing extras and, if it does, do the dancer's personal guardrails allow her to avail herself of the opportunity? How well-patronized is the club ? where is it located geographically? A dancer can earn many times in Manhattan than she can in some rural area in the middle of the country for doing basically the same amount of work.
Finally, while I know Doc only asked Google AI out of curiosity, it is funny how often I see people citing AI results in various walks of life like the results bear any relation to reality. I agree it is likely a much wider range. If I was to guess at the annual income range for dancers who've been at it for over a year, I'd say the lower 25% level would be around $40K and the upper 75% level would be around $120K. With all that, it seems like so many of these dancers have lifestyles (apartments, cars, jewelry, travel, etc.) that they couldn't possibly support with $120K/year, so my guesswork could well be way off.
We compare ourselves to strippers (ie income) lives, for our own ego. They get to pick and choose, even if on aggregate they make much less than we do. I on a daily basis have to appease many people in a different capacity, however I don’t get to choose with my vanilla life. I have to handle all bs thrown at me regardless if I want to. The main difference is I’ve accumulated enough wealth to hang it up and purchase companionship from a girl who chooses my company. They’ll need a transition plan when they phase out if meddling income
If it’s based on what the claim on their Fed income tax return you know it’s way low.
^ If Trump follows through with "no tax on tips" how will that affect stripper income?
What is the source of the data on stripper income that AI or a human would use? The clubs do not keep records. Many strippers do not file income tax and the ones that do underreport their income.

I don't have any data either. From my experience, $36K seems very low. However, the girls themselves often don't know their income. They take in cash and spend it on drugs and other necessities.
I am talking to a stripper right now who directly told me she works 2 jobs outside the club. Similar case for many strippers I've met through the years.

The stripper I'm pursuing agrees with me that it's not a stable income. Some women have straight up taken breaks from the job because it doesn't pay their bills.

Also, she herself brought up that despite the income, it's a job that doesn't provide insurance and requires you be a VERY GOOD manager of your money. As many of you have stated, most dancers don't manage their money well.

I think location is also a big factor, some areas offer more more opportunities to make money and have richer clientele. A dancer in Atlanta is probably going to outearn a dancer in Huntsville because while prices are lower, it means more PL will buy VIP rooms and dances.
What about non-cash gifts? At Admiral Theater in Chicago, and this was in the 90s early 00s, we actually saw the top dancers gifted fur coats and cars by their whales. I can't believe there are no states or municipalities which feel they should get a cut of non-cash income.
Most strippers don't work 40+ hour weeks. Either because of kids or just wanting the leisure time, or legitimately stripping their way through school, I guarantee most strippers aren't working 2000 hours a year. Probably not even 1500. The average shift is about 5-6 hours, and most girls dance 2-4 days a week. So really that's 15-20 hour weeks. So we are talking probably 500-1000 hours a year for a "full time" stripper.

After stage fees and tip outs, $200-300 on average per shift seems about right. Nearly every stripper I've gotten to know admits "I need to set a schedule" or "I really should pick up more shifts".

Hot girls who provide good service and actually work 5 shifts a week can make way more than $40k a year. But most girls don't become strippers because they want to grind (money)
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docsavage
Indiana
a month ago
I agree with those who say many strippers may not report all their income. I was a regular of a pretty and successful stripper who told me one time she had ten thousand dollars stolen from her house. The most likely reason I can think of for keeping that much cash in your house is that you are trying to hide it from the government so they won't tax it.
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Puddy Tat
hiss
a month ago
A lot of strippers claim they make $2,000 a night or "doctor" or "lawyer" money.
I'm sure some do, but I don't buy that. Maybe some do.

I'm thinking it's a highly skewed distribution; most don't make a lot but there's a long tail of those that do.

A good stripper has an exit strategy from the "game." For most, it seems to be nursing or real estate.
Now ask Google AI how many extras are on the menu.
Add another item to the list of things I don’t care about or need to know.
I work in AI. If more people knew how AI worked, less people would take AI seriously.
@ Puddy Tat,

I think strip club incomes have similar patterns to Onlyfans income. Try looking up the reality of Onlyfans income on YouTube.

Only a very small pool of content creators are making livable wage (think over 30,000 a year). It's probably worse for strippers in many areas because unlike online, your competition is literally dancing next to you.

I have nothing against women doing it for a living, but to be honest I think the high earners have few things in common.

1. They have a look that just so happens to be popular with high income patrons.

2. They probably work the floor more often than the ones who stay in the locker room.

3. They are doing more than just "dancing" for specific men.
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Puddy Tat
hiss
a month ago
^ Agree; that's a common pattern in entertainment, whether actors, authors, artists, athletes. A few make it big, a handful more can survive, the majority it's barely a hobby.
I would LOVE to see a stripper income chart based on age. I suspect 19-22 year olds would peak, with a slow decline after. Anecdotally we all know if a dancer is 30+ and been around for years there's a good chance she's providing extras.

And I think most of us have met Golden Pussy Syndrome girls who still are able to sell dances with a cold "wanna dance?" approach.
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nicespice
a month ago
Most strippers basically say their incomes peak in their 30s. No, I don’t think that is a lie and the high amount of 30+ year old dancers in prestige places like Manhattan and Vegas is the obvious example. I suspect there is a survival of the fittest caveat with that though.

Others have already said it well on what can make incomes vary widely.

Onlyfans is even more sink or swim than dancing is. The potential to scale and make more than dancer money is there, but it’s a whole lot more time and effort and maybe luck to pull it off.
I think most just get by. Its a very expensive profession. Makeup, hair, lashes, filler touch ups, its all really expensive. High house fees. Gas or rideshare as clubs tend to be further out. Drugs....bags. Ive known girls making over 100k just getting by.

But most make a lot less. Living week to week.

Take what they say or show on social media with a grain of salt.
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