I’m a -2 out of 10 and I get so much pussy outside the club that I go to non-extras clubs just to get turned down by hot strippers to help keep my ego in check.
I rate myself 7/10 on looks. And improving as I'm getting into shape and seeing muscle definition i forgot I had.
"Game?" I'm not a bar or club guy so I can't speak to that. I'm taking a break from dating to focus on other things in life. But I've worked the apps to pretty good effect over the years.
It doesnt matter where you meet girls. Ive fucked itc for free and ive picked up plenty of dancers. it all comes down to how you make a woman feel. And how attracted she is to you.
My sex life outside the club sometimes makes me wonder wtf I am doing even going. Oh yeah, the age difference is the reason, but it doesn't come close to real life.
Icey posted something I somewhat agree with. I know what I just wrote but there's not a way around it lol for what I want add on.
Where I differ on that is it does matter if a dancer meets you in the club. You have to overcome that for anything OTC. Dancers vary wildly in how much effort that will take, and if you want something other than p4p the amount of time she's been dancing (and who is talking in her ear) matters. Depending on what you're looking for there's levels and levels you've got to work through. Then on top of all of that you've got how you look, the vibe you give off, and yes your actual game because these are real live women.
This whole thread changes based on whether we're taking just p4p or not.
I could still date age appropriate women if I wanted. I look young for my age and have definitely become much healthier over the last couple of years. A good income doesn't hurt either, lol.
But FUCK to the NO. After 2 wives, two other former long-term live-in GFs and countless more casual dating situations, each and every one of which ended badly, I've learned that I'm just not very good SO material.
So I play around with paid companions instead. All they want is some money, which I can handle. Over 30 years of various dating formats has taught me that there is really no such thing as "NSA" sex with a civilian woman - it always comes with strings. No thank you. I've had enough female drama to last me a lifetime. 😂
If I was single, I could get civilian women my own age without a problem. But if I want to fuck around with girls in their 20s with pornstar bodies, I gotta pay for it at the strip club.
@wallanon he's playing nice and you don't think it's the same dude here's an unprovoked and non responded to comment from another thread that idiot posted on yesterday
Icey • 5 days ago 20fag the lonely alcoholic and cacaplop the autistic indian aka rickmicrodong are thread killers
Go have another swig of jack Daniels and troll coz youre so pathetic old short fat bald and stupid 🤡 now keep ruining this thread like you do every one you post in
^ pathetic fat and stupid that’s you troll, I don’t think you have anything to say about me, I’m in better shape than you and you’re the one who is always posting high, not to mention you tried to kill yourself over a whore THATS PATHETIC
“ there is really no such thing as "NSA" sex with a civilian woman - it always comes with strings. “
In all my years of doing shady things like this - this comment is almost 100% correct. Only once in my experiences was it truly NSA. I know that was a rare anomaly. Would kill for that opportunity again, but it’s not happening.
===> "Only once in my experiences was it truly NSA. I know that was a rare anomaly. Would kill for that opportunity again, but it’s not happening."
Better you than me. During a couple of points in my 30s, after so many failed relationships, I swore off serious dating for a while and just played the field. Back then we had AOL and Yahoo romance chat rooms, which were awesome. Combine that with the ability to host at a house with its own dock on a swimmable pond (facing a state forest on the other side of the pond - it was beautiful) and it was like shooting fish in a barrel, lol. For a while I was having a blast.
But it came at a price. Every single time I had a girl over, I had to do a sweep of the house before she left to make sure she didn't try to leave something behind. Toothbrushes were the most common, but I also came across pillows, clothes and other assorted stuff. Then there were those inevitable moments where they wanted more, including the girls who initially claimed otherwise, along with the tears and assorted drama when I didn't reciprocate.
No thanks man. I probably wouldn't have seriously dated again if not for the desire to have children. Now that I have my kids and have crashed and burned yet another marriage, no more. Never. Nada. Finito. Done.
Nobody gets more outside vs inside strip clubs. At best it would be the same. In strip clubs, you have hot girls approaching you. That doesn’t happen in real life unless you have serious wealth/fame. I also don’t believe anyone who rates themselves 8/10 facially. Post pictures if you want real thoughts on that. If you’re counting your body type in the equation that’s different. But people will have different ideas of what a better body type entails.
As far as the nsa sex you mentioned icey, that can be a bad sign in a lot of cases as it means the girl doesn’t see long term value in you. It means lack of a good job/lack of fame/status. Shell have nsa sex with a random guy from a party. If hes a college athlete or has millionaire parents she would likely push for more. The more you achieve in life the less likely those situations will be nsa
Icey yoh say money is the worst strategy for civvies, but it’s literally your go to strategy. You dont pay for the sexual encounters yet you pay for shit like her parents rent and her college expenses. That’s basically a sugardaddy type relationship. Youre not directly paying for sex so you can maintain the facade shes not with you for money, and instead is into your looks.
Also this whole looks stuff is extremely over rated. The pig looking celebrities get women just as hot as the good looking ones.
In highschool, the porky football players got girls as hot or hotter than anyone else. What does that really tell you about life and women, if a porky guy is getting the hottest girls? Nfl players, even if theyre fat and ugly, get more women than the bodybuilders with chiseled jawlines. Its an unfortunate reality you can learn from observation or personal experience
Despite that there was a time a customer used to buy me chicken wings at the club every two weeks, I’ve eaten a lot more of those outside than inside the club.
I have little desire to pursue a woman outside the club because of age and physical condition. definitely an age appropriate situation does not appeal to me. I do much better itc.
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last comment"Game?" I'm not a bar or club guy so I can't speak to that. I'm taking a break from dating to focus on other things in life. But I've worked the apps to pretty good effect over the years.
Where I differ on that is it does matter if a dancer meets you in the club. You have to overcome that for anything OTC. Dancers vary wildly in how much effort that will take, and if you want something other than p4p the amount of time she's been dancing (and who is talking in her ear) matters. Depending on what you're looking for there's levels and levels you've got to work through. Then on top of all of that you've got how you look, the vibe you give off, and yes your actual game because these are real live women.
This whole thread changes based on whether we're taking just p4p or not.
But FUCK to the NO. After 2 wives, two other former long-term live-in GFs and countless more casual dating situations, each and every one of which ended badly, I've learned that I'm just not very good SO material.
So I play around with paid companions instead. All they want is some money, which I can handle. Over 30 years of various dating formats has taught me that there is really no such thing as "NSA" sex with a civilian woman - it always comes with strings. No thank you. I've had enough female drama to last me a lifetime. 😂
https://tuscl.net/discussion/7…
he's playing nice and you don't think it's the same dude
here's an unprovoked and non responded to comment from another thread that idiot posted on yesterday
Icey
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5 days ago
20fag the lonely alcoholic and cacaplop the autistic indian aka rickmicrodong are thread killers
In all my years of doing shady things like this - this comment is almost 100% correct. Only once in my experiences was it truly NSA. I know that was a rare anomaly. Would kill for that opportunity again, but it’s not happening.
Better you than me. During a couple of points in my 30s, after so many failed relationships, I swore off serious dating for a while and just played the field. Back then we had AOL and Yahoo romance chat rooms, which were awesome. Combine that with the ability to host at a house with its own dock on a swimmable pond (facing a state forest on the other side of the pond - it was beautiful) and it was like shooting fish in a barrel, lol. For a while I was having a blast.
But it came at a price. Every single time I had a girl over, I had to do a sweep of the house before she left to make sure she didn't try to leave something behind. Toothbrushes were the most common, but I also came across pillows, clothes and other assorted stuff. Then there were those inevitable moments where they wanted more, including the girls who initially claimed otherwise, along with the tears and assorted drama when I didn't reciprocate.
No thanks man. I probably wouldn't have seriously dated again if not for the desire to have children. Now that I have my kids and have crashed and burned yet another marriage, no more. Never. Nada. Finito. Done.
As far as the nsa sex you mentioned icey, that can be a bad sign in a lot of cases as it means the girl doesn’t see long term value in you. It means lack of a good job/lack of fame/status. Shell have nsa sex with a random guy from a party. If hes a college athlete or has millionaire parents she would likely push for more. The more you achieve in life the less likely those situations will be nsa
Also this whole looks stuff is extremely over rated. The pig looking celebrities get women just as hot as the good looking ones.
In highschool, the porky football players got girls as hot or hotter than anyone else. What does that really tell you about life and women, if a porky guy is getting the hottest girls? Nfl players, even if theyre fat and ugly, get more women than the bodybuilders with chiseled jawlines. Its an unfortunate reality you can learn from observation or personal experience
But yeah pretty true your point