Roll calls are great. When I used to live close to a decent club (or at least I thought it was decent at the time) I wouldn't go unless the roll call showed that there were girls dancing that I wanted to see. Roll calls with pictures are even better.
Not too surprised that the lineup wouldn't be all that extensive on a holiday weekend. Especially in the early evening.
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Many or most dancers don't want their pictures associated with stripping.
Besides laziness, clubs don't post who's scheduled since it's rare they'll all show up. With the changes made during the Trump Administration, it might add to the already-high risk of running an adult business to post the pseudonyms of individual dancers online.
The roll call at the WPB Rhino is horribly inaccurate. I was there about 2 weeks ago and roll call said like 3 girls, I walked in and there were about 6. 1 of the girls from the roll call was there, 2 were not. And there was 5 girls who weren't on the roll call that were there. 2 of those girls were much hotter than any of the girls on the roll call.
It was reasonably accurate when it was just a list of names, but its not doing anyone any favors now. I'm not sure if its too hard to setup, if the girls turn over too fast, or maybe they don't want to be on there, or some other reason. But I know it's not accurate.
Schedule posting works only when (a) girls are employees, rather than independent contractors (which is rare), and (b) girls are held accountable for no-shows. Even then, I wouldn't recommend making a sizeable time investment driving to a club based on interest in seeing a specific girl, as there is always risk of no-show.
If using roll-call to see how many girls are there, the value becomes a bit higher, but even then, it's not reliable, due to no-show and drop-in risks.
As far as the no show stuff, I don't know what's typical, but the one at SR isn't about who is scheduled work. My understanding, which may be wrong, is that the DJ or Hostess updates it when the girl checks in or out. It's not like on Monday some manager is posting the schedule for the week and Sparkles said she was gonna work Friday at 8, then decided at 7:45 that she wants to go out instead and doesn't show.
But, for a girl to be on there they have to upload one or more pictures and populate a few data fields for her online bio. They don't seem to be doing that part at all anymore. They don't appear to be removing girls from the roster either.
This is just based on my observations, and a quick chat with a girl works at another club but still has her picture featured on the roster at Rhino about the subject.
Thanks @ Dofan, for your comments, very helpful. Yeah I am totally coming from viewpoint that DJ/Hostess updates is in as close to realtime as they can, it's not a future schedule like at a grocery store.
The problem with it is posting girls who arent there, or not updating the schedule properly. It can definitely be false advertising to claim theres 15+ girls there, have people pay entrance fees only to then fine out there’s 5 girls there, or completely different girls from the list.
One time I mentioned to a girl that I came by because her name was on the role call. She was incredulous. She had an agreement with management to NOT be on the list, due to an asshole ex.
I didn't have the heart to tell her I'd heard her name pretty regularly.
I found roll calls to be of little value because of the reasons already mentioned.
I also found calling a club is of little value because they often either outright lie, speak in half truths or just don't want to be bothered giving an answer.
Is Lavender working today? "Yes" can mean she is scheduled to work and not that she is working right now. When asked if she is working right now the response can be "she's on her way, she just called in." The reality is Lavender never sets foot in the club and expectations for a great dance / VIP turns the club visit into frustration and a big disappointment.
I found the best is when you have no expectations and the club showcases the dancers at the beginning of a shift by introducing them as they walk around on the stage. What you see is what you get.
We have three clubs locally that post their schedule for the week on Monday. One is an employee club, the other two are IC clubs. The employee club schedule is the most accurate but still probably 66-75% accurate on average. The other two clubs vary but are probably more right than not. I check the schedules to see if there’s a girl I want to go meet. Other times I’ll go without planning ahead. Depends on how I’m feeling or what I’m looking for.
Also, I have heard a couple of times that girls changed their dancer names so that a creep couldn’t use the schedule to track them down.
I remember newb me calling the club to ask if so-and-so was going to work that night. A quick lesson that, even if the club interior looks vaguely like a Ruby Tuesdays, and the bouncers wear suits, you will not be pissed on if on fire.
There are occasional exceptions. The Hideout in Tuscola, Illinois. The decor is Post-Economic-Collapse, but the bare-bones staff are great with PLs. They were pleasantly patient with my infatuation with a dancer who almost suffocated me with her boob.
The info is useful but mostly for club regulars. To a first timer the names are meaningless. For a regular they’ll know which girls they haven’t seen as well as if they want to see someone again.
Yes there are potential concerns as far as asshole exs and stalkers although they may already be banned or already know her schedule. But sure if it’s important the dancer should be able to opt out.
If a dancer is classified as an employee, the club has more control over her, and there could be greater consequences for no-shows.
For independent contractor girls, depending on the club, they may not even need to be placed on a schedule. They just show up randomly when they want to dance. For clubs that require scheduling, an independent contractor will likely suffer less negative consequences for call-offs. If anything, they just get a few days on the street.
It's either Millstream or Gold Club in Baltimore that has a poster in restroom stating the dancers are employees.
Nevertheless, I believe a distinction was made earlier about roll-call (girls added to schedule as they arrive for a shift) vs a future schedule. I doubt enough PLs would check the roll call in real-time to make it worth the effort for club staff. And, by the time a PL gets to the club, girl(s) may already be gone.
Roll calls are especially useful for clubs that are in rotation, but not your primary club. There's one near me that actually has an entire thing on their webpage about why they think roll calls are evil, but I end up going there about half as often as I otherwise would b/c I never know if the extra drive will be worth it.
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Not too surprised that the lineup wouldn't be all that extensive on a holiday weekend. Especially in the early evening.
Besides laziness, clubs don't post who's scheduled since it's rare they'll all show up. With the changes made during the Trump Administration, it might add to the already-high risk of running an adult business to post the pseudonyms of individual dancers online.
It was reasonably accurate when it was just a list of names, but its not doing anyone any favors now. I'm not sure if its too hard to setup, if the girls turn over too fast, or maybe they don't want to be on there, or some other reason. But I know it's not accurate.
If using roll-call to see how many girls are there, the value becomes a bit higher, but even then, it's not reliable, due to no-show and drop-in risks.
But, for a girl to be on there they have to upload one or more pictures and populate a few data fields for her online bio. They don't seem to be doing that part at all anymore. They don't appear to be removing girls from the roster either.
This is just based on my observations, and a quick chat with a girl works at another club but still has her picture featured on the roster at Rhino about the subject.
I didn't have the heart to tell her I'd heard her name pretty regularly.
I also found calling a club is of little value because they often either outright lie, speak in half truths or just don't want to be bothered giving an answer.
Is Lavender working today? "Yes" can mean she is scheduled to work and not that she is working right now. When asked if she is working right now the response can be "she's on her way, she just called in." The reality is Lavender never sets foot in the club and expectations for a great dance / VIP turns the club visit into frustration and a big disappointment.
I found the best is when you have no expectations and the club showcases the dancers at the beginning of a shift by introducing them as they walk around on the stage. What you see is what you get.
Also, I have heard a couple of times that girls changed their dancer names so that a creep couldn’t use the schedule to track them down.
There are occasional exceptions. The Hideout in Tuscola, Illinois. The decor is Post-Economic-Collapse, but the bare-bones staff are great with PLs. They were pleasantly patient with my infatuation with a dancer who almost suffocated me with her boob.
Yes there are potential concerns as far as asshole exs and stalkers although they may already be banned or already know her schedule. But sure if it’s important the dancer should be able to opt out.
For independent contractor girls, depending on the club, they may not even need to be placed on a schedule. They just show up randomly when they want to dance. For clubs that require scheduling, an independent contractor will likely suffer less negative consequences for call-offs. If anything, they just get a few days on the street.
It's either Millstream or Gold Club in Baltimore that has a poster in restroom stating the dancers are employees.
Nevertheless, I believe a distinction was made earlier about roll-call (girls added to schedule as they arrive for a shift) vs a future schedule. I doubt enough PLs would check the roll call in real-time to make it worth the effort for club staff. And, by the time a PL gets to the club, girl(s) may already be gone.