Could Donald Trump lose the popular vote but “win” the presidency twice?

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“While the world watched Donald Trump’s presidency in horror or delight, few noticed that his lifelong grifting quietly continued.

Less than forty minutes after taking the oath of office, Trump began turning the White House into a money machine for himself, his family, and his courtiers.”?

~ The Big Cheat (Book published October 2021)
~ How Donald Trump Fleeced America and Enriched Himself and His Family
~ By David Cay Johnston

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Puddy Tat
4 months ago
What is this "popular vote"?
Does it mean something?
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rickthelion
4 months ago
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CJKent_band
4 months ago
@rickthelion

I will play along and comment on your comment.

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skinnywhiteboy
4 months ago
@ Puddy Tat. The popular vote is total votes nationwide, which is not how our elections are decided. US elections are decided by the electoral vote. Each state is given a number of electoral votes based on their population. California for example has the most electoral votes with 54. If a candidate wins the state of California they get 54 electoral votes. It doesn't matter if they win the state by 1% or 40% they get 54 electoral votes.

As for can Trump win the election with less popular votes the answer is yes, that's how he won in 2016

As far as enriching himself have you seen how much wealth the Biden's and the Pelosi's have accumulated while in office?
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Puddy Tat
4 months ago
^ @skinnywhiteboy that was exactly my point. Read the Puddy Tat's posts elsewhere and you'll see I'm no lib. Sarcasm sometimes doesn't translate over text.

CJKent is a flaming lib who trashes capitalism all the time but is an academic living off family money (read: past capitalists)

"The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive."

- Thomas Sowell. Academia is that place!
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CJKent_band
4 months ago
^
IT IS USUALLY FUTILE TO TRY TO TALK FACTS
TO PEOPLE WHO ARE ENJOYING
A SENSE OF MORAL SUPERIORITY
IN THEIR IGNORANCE AND DENIAL.

- Thomas Sowell
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Puddy Tat
4 months ago
"Socialism is a wonderful idea. It is only as a reality that it has been disastrous. Among people of every race, color, and creed, all around the world, socialism has led to hunger in countries that used to have surplus food to export.... Nevertheless, for many of those who deal primarily in ideas, socialism remains an attractive idea -- in fact, seductive. Its every failure is explained away as due to the inadequacies of particular leaders."
Thomas Sowell
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rickmacrodong
4 months ago
Most republicans support socialism- sadly for some reason they dont want it domestically but support giving taxpayer dollars to foreign entities like israel.

The sad and ironic thing about sowell is that he tries presenting himself as sophisticated, civilized, and superior to the stereotypical black gangster… but he is far worse than that, despite what he pretends. The dude literally writes online articles complaining about how the US and others dont give israel free reign to wipe out the Middle East. Hes become increasingly unhinged as hes aged too
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jaybud999
4 months ago
You two ass wipes exchanging quotes from the same clown......smh....almost as bad as the guy who cuts and pastes a statement and replaces all the last names and pronouns with the opposite side.
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Call.Me.Ishmael
4 months ago
TUSCL's satire Lion has it right.
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Owlyoung_ggofv
4 months ago
@ Pudding Tat, I think CJ does have a point and its been made by many political analysts over the years. A Republican candidate has not won a popular vote since 1988. Some people call this is a feature, but it can realistically be considered a problem. Have you ever considered that the Republican platform, by default, is simply unpopular objectively. Do you honestly belive people want to pay more taxes if they did not believe they gained some benefit from it? Do you believe that people would support the Democratic pary if they did not realize some of the programs offered help millions of Americans, whether they realize it or not? There are plenty of countries that use CAPITALIST WEALTH in order to fund SOCIALIST programs for those they deem worth it. I will admit Capitalism is better than socialism, but capitalism does have inherent flaws. You eventually just end up with a few corporate bodies that own everything and by extension use their influence to control everyone. Large corporations have lobbyist who essentially control our government anyway. The black pill perspective makes the argument that in some capacity it really doesn't matter who is in the Oval Office.
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Owlyoung_ggofv
4 months ago
@rickmacrodong, You just described my biggest issue with the Evangelical voting base. Everybody should realize that the US basically subsidizes Israel's existence. They only have the courage commit military retaliation because we give them assurance. I am not pro-palestine either, I just believe the US should stay out of foreign affairs, ALL OF THEM. Unless it is a direct threat to American interests (tangible interests) then we should not be involved. Plus, most Israelies see America as an ATM, they do not care about our well-being Republican or otherwise.
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Call.Me.Ishmael
4 months ago
I think CJ has perfected the act of manipulating the most reactions under false pretenses while expending the least effort.

RMD is essentially the same... but types more when he trolls for reactions.
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Hank Moody
4 months ago
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misterorange
4 months ago
Damn, this thread is getting good. That's right, real good. Yeah, oh fuck yeah... I'm gonna start jackin it... yeah...

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rickmacrodong
4 months ago
Ggofv exactly. Now by their own admission that same voting segment doesn’t support freedom of speech or religion either.
The problem also is if you google things like the lavon affair, yinon plan, king david hotel bombing, uss liberty attack, youll see that israel is willing to just use false flag attacks to attempt to drag the us into war or taking other action. Several of those instances were israeli intelligence agents pretending to be Arabian men, in the hopes the us would take action against egypt or another one of their neighbors. They literally train their intelligence agents to do crazy shit while pretending to be Arab. The USS liberty incident was going to be blamed on egypt.. they just couldnt succeed
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rickmacrodong
4 months ago
That sowell guy is a joke… people in their 80s and 90s spend their time donating money.. with family.. or in worship if theyre religious. What does thomas sowell do in his sad old age? Write internet articles complaining about the US not giving israel permission to engage in “total annihilation”.
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mjx01
4 months ago
Um, yes. He did that in 2016 and nothing prevents it from happening again.
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Puddy Tat
4 months ago
@ggofv - Democrats know the electoral college is what matters. For a while, the electoral college favored democrats. Now it favors Republicans. Either way, it's the predetermined rule of the game and you don't get to change it midstream. It's like Democrats are trying to do with the Supreme Court. When it reliably enacted progressive policies, they loved it. Now it's corrupt and needs to be reformed, and somehow putting 4 liberal justices is the way to do that. Somehow that's the same number of justices that would make the court 7-6 liberal. Coincidence?

Different policies are popular in different states. That's the wonders of federalism.
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Owlyoung_ggofv
4 months ago
@ Pudding Tat, I acknowledge that. And I do believe that lesser population states should have a voice. But just as you can have "tyranny of the majority", you can also have "tyranny of the minority" also known as a plutocracy. That is what our system has become. Those in power (both sides) just provide enough bread and circuses to keep the population sated. What do you think all the social programs (like Social security) are for ? Bread and Circuses, you just prefer different bread than I do.

I personally think the solution isn't necessarily the electoral college. I think Supreme Court Justices should have a term limit set to 20 years. Honestly all politicians should have hard term limits like the Presidency. The system has clearly been abused by both sides. The reason that will never happen is because it benefits politicians on both sides when they finally get power.

i shouldn't be forced to live in a theocracy that I never voted for and never had any political power to stop.
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Hungryhunnypot
4 months ago
Trump likes 13 year old girls who resemble Ivanka at 13
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motorhead
4 months ago
CJK

Kamala is on record of saying she supports the elimination of private health insurance and wants a single payer system.

Please post pics and videos of you burning your health insurance card.
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Puddy Tat
4 months ago
@ggofv - there is no "tyranny of the minority." We are not a direct democracy where 51% of the population is entitled to impose their absolute will on the rest. No one is forcing you to live in a theocracy, if there is one, it's the one forcing you to respect pride flags and wants to take away tax breaks from churches that won't perform gay marriage and force anti abortion doctors to perform abortions. That's the state religion.

There is no "majority" since a lot of people don't reliably stand on one "side."

The Supreme Court was meant to have indefinite terms in order to insulate it from the turning of the legislative and executive branches and the political whims of the moment. There is no changing that without an amendment to the constitution. Of course the Democrats are openly violating half the bill of rights so they will try to go around it.
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rickmacrodong
4 months ago
So the constitution is supposedly infallible, perfect, correct on everything including supreme court justices having indefinite terms…
Other than free speech/religion/belief. The constitution was wrong there, according to many conservatives there are many religions/speech/beliefs that need to be restricted.
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Puddy Tat
4 months ago
^ The Constitution is the law, not a suggestion to be discarded when it says something you don't agree with. Don't like it, amend it.

Republicans are the party of free speech now.
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rickmacrodong
4 months ago
Okay Puddy, yeah, constitution is the law, yet many on the right cherrypick which parts to follow and not follow.
Constitution is the law yet republicans dont support free speech, free beliefs, free religion… they dont even support private property rights depending on what your beliefs are. They’d probably ban gays from owning private property if they could.
They dont support an open dress code. A ninja outfit, Islamic Niqab and Batman outfits should all be illegal according to them. Public nudity isnt allowed either because its not socially conservative. You basically need to dress blue collar, white collar, or military gear. A nun outfit is fine if your skin color is white, if its brown… well then its not allowed because it’s something else. Lol

There are SOME on the right but theyre a slim minority. Thomas massie, ron paul, possibly rand Paul, gary johnson, maybe a couple others.
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Puddy Tat
4 months ago
How many on the right are cherry picking which parts of the Constitution?
"Many on the right" isn't a number.
Your paranoid fantasies about "probably ban gays from owning private property" aren't an argument.

You're saying some really bizarre things.
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rickmacrodong
4 months ago
Okay, its most on the right. It is a number. Yes… they want to have different rights dependent on your race, nationality, immigrant status, sexuality, religion etc.
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Owlyoung_ggofv
4 months ago
@ Pudding Tat, I believe the issue some people are having is their is a contradiction between what The Supreme Court says and what many politicians do. Take the recent efforts by Republican governors to put religion into public school systems.

Trumps Immunity is another issue. You do realize that this ruling effectively makes Biden and every other President before and after him immune from any charges. So all anyone has to do is become POTUS and they immunity for any federal crime or action taken during Presidency outside of official operations.
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Hungryhunnypot
4 months ago
Trump is going to lose
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MyPoorLifeChoices
4 months ago
Its a very real possibility. I think unions are going to be Harris's big push but Trump will be a wild card for the political illiterates and bigots in each state.
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Puddy Tat
4 months ago
"You do realize that this ruling effectively makes Biden and every other President before and after him immune from any charges."

Untrue. It's only actions taken in the course of presidential duties. Don't believe the liberal nonsense.

"Trump will be a wild card for the political illiterates and bigots in each state."

Please say this. Another basket of deplorables line will give Trump at least 3 points, while Harris tries to run AGAINST her first 3.5 years in DC.
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rickmacrodong
4 months ago
“Taken in the course of presidential duties” is still vague and can be interpreted in different ways
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