Thank you all!

it’s human nature to want results immediately and now but That’s just not my experience whatsoever. results take time and requires cutting yourself slack that your focus can falter at times. Want it, really want the results. Use the negative thoughts you point out in your post as visualization and motivation to want that goal/results. Best of luck…

Im all about men improving themselves and not using the SC and sugar life as a means for connection. That being said, be careful of the same when it comes to relationships.

Men always pay. Women are “want” machines. The women who are capable of staying in a mutually caring relationship are far and few between, and they are mostly already married.

There is no shame in the game.

Stay out of Whole Foods. I met an escort who said that, when calls are slow, she would go Whole Foods in search of lonely gentlemen looking to meet nice girls (I’m thinking it would almost be worth it to pay for her time to explain, and re-enact, how she engages some dude in the produce aisle and convinces him to leave the cart where it is and meet her at Motel No-Tell, cash in hand). She may have said she goes to Wegmans. Probably best bet is to stick to Dollar General and Aldi. Now that you’ve broken the clutches of the SC world you don’t want to get sucked into the escort vortex

Announcing that you're leaving TUSCL is the surest sign that you're not leaving TUSCL.

-- Skibum's Law

Bye.

Don’t let the door hit you in the behind as you’re leaving!

100% you will return. We've all left and returned.

Dudes goal is to finally lose his virginity in 2024.

How much do you want to bet that as "Kevin" stops posting, either Dusty comes back strong, or another troll-ish wonder magically finds his way to the site?

It’s amazing how many people take these trolls seriously and respond as if their posts are legitimate.

If anyone is complaining that these ladies are want machines...that's their job... So if you don't want to experience that stay out of the clubs or steer away from that type of lifestyle Or find yourself a woman with a legitimate job... A lot of women these days don't need a man to sponge off of they're smart have good jobs... And they don't need to be in a relationship where they have to settle... That's why a lot of men complain that they can't find a girlfriend or they can't stay in a relationship because women don't settle...

Of course there are those who do...men and women through whatever circumstances in life keeps them together or forces them to stay together...

@HoneyDewMelons I am not complaining that strippers or escorts are want machines.

All women are want machines. I am not complaining about any of it.

OP saying "I encourage all of u to get better and tackle the status quo. We all need to change, especially since 2024 is around the corner. " is a sure sign that he does not understand women, and an attempt to shame all men for dealing with women who offer clear and upfront terms.

If anything, there is more transparency dealing with women in this industry. Lifelong monogamy is by far the exception. You can not "negotiate" or "earn" the desire of a women. It is mostly a genetic lottery.

@squarecastle “ It’s amazing how many people take these trolls seriously and respond as if their posts are legitimate.”

Whether the op has gone on a tirade or posted something barely coherent, it’s a discussion forum where virtually any topic can be introduced. What their motivation is for posting is largely irrelevant. What’s relevant is the topic and whether it’s something forum readers would like to add their two cents. The topic is: guy who goes to SCs a lot also has no personal success with women, has woefully bad self esteem, and how can that change. Ultimately is the topic introduced worthy of discussion, that is what’s germane regardless even if the op is full time troll or fiction writer. Lastly, assume your 100% certainty the op is a troll is correct. The topic still may be meaningful to another forum reader(s). There’s been multiple on point replies including one from a former stripper. All in all, troll or not, some good information on the topic was posted.

^ If I see a post from a troll that has a nugget of discussion value buried deep within the attention seeking and pure bullshit, then I'd create a new topic about that (probably unintended) nugget of value. I've seen others here do exactly that.

Because don't feed the trolls.

@Brahma - fair enough, I see your point. Though I’ll stick to entertaining/validating my cats with the yarn ball stick.

For me, the key point is, do you seek sustainable relationships or do you want something for nothing. If it's the later, you will, at best, go from person to person, unless you chance on someone who's very broken. That applies whether you want marriage, or you want NSA hookups, paid or unpaid. Kevin seemed to consistently have problems with being accused of underpaying, much more than typical. So that's a sign of wanting something for nothing.

I wouldn't call kevin a troll, he sounds sincere. A young guy who wants a girlfriend should not go to strip clubs, I think he realizes that. I wish him luck!

@squarecastle Ha! Funny and fair enough.

Vaya Con Dios...... strip club rehab is for quitters.

Yeah, if Kevin is looking for GF, a SC is probably not the place. But at my age and no sex happening at home I don't find attractive women (or any women) throwing themselves at me. I enjoy the interaction at a SC and a fairly reliable source of sex. I have nothing to apologize for partaking in our hobby.

Whenever I have clients in a relationship with a cop or corrections officer I tell them to end it because the personality traits that make someone a great cop or c.o., makes them shifty life partners. Same with strippers and sex workers. Yes there's exceptions, but no it's still not smart.