Air Dance just standing
So this happened to me a few times, but last night it was really pissing me off. I got a dance from a super hot girl, nice brunette, short big natural tits, nice shaped ass, like the whole package, looks like just any ordinary hot chick you'd see outside the club. We chatted a bit made some jokes, then she asked if I wanted a dance, I was like sure I'll just start off with 1 nude dance just to see how things go. We get in there and she's talking a bit at first before song starts then when it starts during the whole duration she just stands there, no moving, no dancing ,nothing. No shaking no grinding nothing at all. The thing is I didn't have to pay her until after, she didn't ask for the money until way way after once we got back to the main floor. I was mad I walked out, it was honestly my fault it was way way in the back a long hallway to walk, I left and she was still in the booth putting her bra and thong back on I could've just walked out and drove off. My fault I stayed on the floor to chill and look for other girls. That would've been so fcking tight to just walk out and leave she would've learned her lesson, give a stupid dance not doing nothing then you don't get paid.
First even when she came off the the front I explained I'm not paying you shit, you did nothing no dance just stood there but then all the management got crazy and forced me to pay, I can't believe they took the little piece of shit girls side, they didn't take my side. Why would I lie about something like that? If I got a good dance I would be a returning customer and kept coming back and giving her money, but since she cheated and stole my money I'm never gonna give her a penny, so why would I lie about something about a dance being cheated? That's a serious issue.
I was pissed man at the end I tipped her on stage I threw coins to piss her off, I threw like three quarters on stage and said fucking bitch then walked out :)
What do you guys do in these situations if a girl does something ridiculous like this? Where she does nothing at all and stands still? Because at other cases when it happened I told management and they took my side, one time they even refunded my money and they usually talk to the girl and give her a warning not to steal, but this time they didn't, they were against me. Like wtf
First even when she came off the the front I explained I'm not paying you shit, you did nothing no dance just stood there but then all the management got crazy and forced me to pay, I can't believe they took the little piece of shit girls side, they didn't take my side. Why would I lie about something like that? If I got a good dance I would be a returning customer and kept coming back and giving her money, but since she cheated and stole my money I'm never gonna give her a penny, so why would I lie about something about a dance being cheated? That's a serious issue.
I was pissed man at the end I tipped her on stage I threw coins to piss her off, I threw like three quarters on stage and said fucking bitch then walked out :)
What do you guys do in these situations if a girl does something ridiculous like this? Where she does nothing at all and stands still? Because at other cases when it happened I told management and they took my side, one time they even refunded my money and they usually talk to the girl and give her a warning not to steal, but this time they didn't, they were against me. Like wtf
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Honestly in my opinion when girls pull this bullshit they should be fired right away or at least be warned by the owner or manager that if that behavior continues or they should be told that if they try or do that again they would get kicked out. That has to be said man so they stop doing it. That's literally theft your stealing money, someone is paying for a service to a business. That's the same same exact thing if I order a burger or food at a restaurant and they don't give it to me or serve my food. I don't care how much you guys disagree that's the same exact thing. She's ruining business and being a thief. Girls like that definitely need to be told and can't do that shit
So, I'm not taking this seriously at all. The strippers I've been with would never do this because it doesn't make sense. They want to get paid and they want return customers.
So, either it didn't happen or you did something stupid that you're not talking about. And though either are plausible, I suspect that the former is true.
But on the topic of not getting what you expect from a dancer, if you're not asking her what kind of dances she offers ahead of time, then it's on you.
When you find a winner, you enjoy the experience and build a relationship.
When you find a loser, you stop after one or two dances, pay her, and forget her.
Anger kills the entire experience. Accept the fact that you need to sort through some disappointment to find the treasures. Celebrate the wins. Shake off the losses.
What do you mean not getting what you want? You shouldn't have to ask for shit a dance is a dance. It's called a lap dance for a reason they're supposed to be on your lap grinding the whole 3 to 3 and half minute duration of the song, no air dance no standing on the chair high up in front of you no weird shit. For extras that's a different story yes you ask before hand what they offer cause those are many different services
But just regular dance it's not on anyone to ask what kind of dance they offer or what you expect, a lap dance is just a normal dance where they're on you, it's basically dry humping, she's grinding and you to are almost fucking with clothes on, she should be on your lap the whole time. Otherwise your getting cheated
"if you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got"
Yeah sometimes it's good also to just ignore it, it would honestly be really funny to ignore it cause then every time your at the club and she asks for a dance and your always gonna say no thank you since she robbed you, then she sees you buying dances from other girls and she's just so sad and realizes what she done then. That's the hilarious part hahahahahah :) so yeah it is awesome to just keep it cool and let things solve themselves it will be all good and she will learn what she did over time, you don't always have to explain or tell her
If you paid for a nude lap dance, and that was not delivered, you have a legit complaint. If the club or dancer dismiss said complaint, take your business elsewhere and out them so your brother PLs can be warned. Throwing coins and getting pissy inside the club is just a bitch move that will get you nothing but future hurt.
Believes in an ounce of prevention was worth more than the cure.
So very sad.
I'm going to leave the internet now and go cry.
So, for 3 minutes she stood like a statue, not moving, not talking? And, what did you do for 3 minutes?
Regardless, this sad pattern you have posted about has one common person, and it's you. You are absolutely the problem in your problems. This shit doesn't even happen once or twice to PLs in a lifetime, and you have had it happen "a few times" in a few months. You are clearly not emotionally in tune You got mad and threw quarters, which I guess you must have brought in because I've never seen change at a strip club.
Or, as I continue to suspect, you are a brilliant troll who enjoys the entertainment. I enjoy too, so, please keep these stories coming Kevin, er, Dusty.
I disagree. Part of getting dances at strip clubs is figuring out who is a waste of time and who is not. If there is a dancer who does something as weird and stupid as what you described, then after one dance you’ve learned that she’s not worth repeating with. Simple. Worst case scenario you are out $40, and if you can’t afford that, you are in the wrong hobby.
In all cases be a gentleman and pay your goddamned debts. Dining and dashing, even if the meal is poor, is a shitty low class move. So is flipping coins at a dancer btw.
Do better.
I should've just old her jokes on you little missy, I could've been a returning customer giving you hundreds of dollars, but you decided to cheat me and think it was cute to not dance and just rob me. If I say that in a mature calm way and just basically explain to her that you think short term but then I'm never gonna return back, but if you didn't do that you would've made more money I would've kept coming back but now offer is expired. If I say that that will definitely have her thinking and she'll know what she did, and probably not do it again. I'm looking out for the next customers she goes to so they don't get screwed.
I think Squarecastle has this one figured out, I’m surprised to say. I guess putting DH on mute & depriving him of attention is the only solution. I encourage you all to do the same.
So since you don't believe bad experiences and girls not wanting me it only makes sense you believe me getting all the girls and all the sex therefore fine you want it here we go I fucked Riley Reid Remy LaCroix Tori black, all those Instagram hoe models, Cassidy Klein, every college girl, all the California sluts, every girl on tinder thank you guys for complimenting me and defending that apparently my bad experiences are too much of a lie and that I'm a high value bad ass guy that fucks tons of girls I appreciate you looking at me in that light
You wanna treat me as a high value Ryan Reynolds guy then I'll be that guy next time think before acting a fool
By, Kev
And some clubs are air dance clubs. It is far fetched that a chick took her bra and thong off and then did nothing else.
I realize that even by typing this comment, I’m probably contributing to the problem. But I guess in some sick way a lot of us are entertained by trolls. I guess it does break up the monotony….
I'm learning now not to do that no matter how much of a bitch she is, just keep it cool and tell her in a mature way just be like hey look what happened is fine, whatever you did you took my $40 it's fine, I don't wanna make this into a big deal but now I know not to come to you, you violated my trust. But everything cool thanks for your time,
When things happen like this I should learn to just let it go you're right, don't extract revenge, don't rub in money in the girls face with other dancers, they don't give a shit about us, they're going to other customers and don't pay attention. It happens to the best of us, good dances, bad dances get robbed or cheated.
Like I said I'll change and have better discussions and be smart, and not say silly shit, but you guys also gotta cooperate as well and talk mature and be cool with me also, I understand when I complain or sound like a wimp I get talked shit to that's fair, but as I stop complaining and start having real discussions and be more positive and share real stuff then you guys can't talk shit or be a dick to me
Or none.
Obviously not true. I'm also starting to think you are a troll.
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.
Or, you can confront every person you see doing something you don’t agree with for the rest of your life
Any guesses which is a better choice ?
Maybe when you open a strip club, you’ll have a different set of rules and let random dudes decide they don’t have to pay bc they thought up some baloney rule at the last moment bc they didn’t get what they want. Until then, you to pay.
Or you can get thrown out of clubs and banned and whatever. That’s also a whine we hear in these forums from time to time. Entertaining for us, not for you, unless you have a very weird kink.
I don't know, man. For some reason, I doubt it'll inspire an epiphany.
Only two I’ve observed, though never experienced personally, the management sided at least partly with the customer. My guess is management probably sees and understands the stripper bs will happen. What few customers take a complaint to management, easier for management to try and somehow meet the customer halfway. But I echo others in saying being pissy is an ultra! bad move. And a stripper not doing anything at all for multiple minutes? What really happened in the first minute or two that made her not make an effort for a good tip?
So anyway yeah back to what I was saying before was that those types of girls that don't really seem to care or wanna talk to you or spend any time at all or just make t seem rushed those are robs, so it's best to feel them out and determine if a girl is a air dance girl. Just based on how she is or carrys herself you can be smart enough to determine if it's a rob, and not even get a dance to begin with
On the other hand if a girl doesn't rush you is sweet, doesn't mention money, sits down and talks to you she's obviously more trustworthy if she genuinely has a conversation with you like school, passions, if you guys have a whole ass convo and talk about all different topics then that means she became cool with you and is on your good side, so she's not gonna cheat. After talking about life, jobs, hobbies, sex whatever long convo, she's not dumb enough to ruin everything and give a air dance, she's cool with you by then and would give a real lap dance and not cheat, at that point she wouldn't pull anything.
And yes like you guys say you can't control everything robs will happen yes I agree, but these are just tips how to be smarter and minimize them to where you mostly don't have to deal with it again.
So yeah my conclusion is be smart in the first place, that was on me I should've known better if they don't care or walk away or don't wanna give you time don't even bother in the first place, if they are sarcastic and treat you like your some no one or a guy that doesn't get girls if they treat you like that or only mention money money and nothing else don't go to them
But like I said if she's cool and talks to you and everything, doesn't force anything, treats you like a person and respect ls you your good, or another way to test it out if she sits next to you just pull out a few dollars like 5 ones or something and just put it on her ass or tits and feel and grab as you do that and if she lets you and moves around and encourages then she's legit or confirmed. But if she just takes the money and puts your hands off or says that's in the dance or vip only you have to pay more then you can tell she's a scam. These are all just ways to test or determine so you can help yourself from being scammed
That said, I've seen this b4 in Minneapolis lmfao!!! Like the bitch would just stand not even dance or twerk and was built wide waisted with a flat butt/no tits/ hips don't flair out. But idk some chicks that look like shit imo and can't or won't dance/pole dance or at least twerk still make ok or good money so whatever. If it works for her good for her.
"So yeah my conclusion is be smart in the first place"...
...etc.
I think this is a semi-OK policy, but I think you are going to be disappointed in your ability to stare into the face of someone you don't know and detect their intentions. I also think you are still missing the larger picture.
The number one way to not get robbed ever is to repeatedly see dancers that give you the service you want. In order to find them, you will have to "kiss a few frogs" i.e. spend $40 to get a dance that isn't quite what you are looking for, or in the case of this dancer, get a dance that is really not what you are looking for; and then cut your losses. Once you've had a few dances with same girl over multiple trips to the club, upped the ante in the VIP, and PAID her well for her time, she will see you as an important client and you two will build the mutual professional trust that will make ROBs a distant memory.
That doesn't mean you then give her your credit card. Almost any dancer will weigh the income stream of the current relationship vs the short term cash flow stemming from a sneaky move and choose the higher of the two.
In other words, it’s just life. You try something new, you learn from it.
Most people ( normal, well adjusted people ) just take it in stride. Celebrate the winners. Shake off the losers.
It's easier to get an MBA than complete an e-harmony profile, and wait out all the steps required to finally communicate with a match. Didn't even realize e/harmony was still around, but if it is, I suggest you millennials stick with Tinder.
For the same reason she would lie about it. Money. Now, I'm not saying that you lied. Nor I am I saying that she lied. I wasn't there. I didn't see anything. I don't know. Which is the same position the club management was in. Unless someone was watching you two, either life of with a camera, they don't know which of you is telling the truth. So, it's not surprising that they would decide to back one of their own over a stranger. Especially if you are the fist person to ever complain about her.
If they get a lot of complaints about her, she will be gone pretty quickly though.