First timer questions

Also does ATT/Verizon work there? And how is the Wi-Fi situation?

You can reserve the room under any name or number you want as long as you don't use a credit card to pay for the room. Everyone is fine getting into Mexico. It's Mexico. Nobody cares. Assume you should be fine with a VISA getting back to the USA. The rooms are safe but your laptop probably won't fit in the safe. I don't even use the safe any more. Nobody will go in your room. If you want a girl to shower you can ask her to shower but honestly, most of them are super clean. Sometimes the girl will as if she can shower first. As far as time, every girl is different. Most girls don't time it but some do.
How to not get hustled? Know prices. The only time Ive been hustled is when the waiters knew I did not know the price. I've been here dozens of times now so I know how it works. The first 2-3 times I went, I was lied to about drinks, rooms prices as Chicago club, ect.... I don't trust anyone in Zona. But if you don't act like a rookie it's unlikely you'll get hustled. If they know you are knew, it is likely. It doesn't happen as often as HK.

if you buy the VIP card they do want to check your ID and put that name down on the VIP card. I have no issue with it but it's not like it used to be.

and there is Mexican cell phone service included with most usa service.

@Tuscl889

I will play along and comment on your discussion.

Since you said this is your first time keep things simple in your first visit and go with the expectation of this just being a recon/investigation/learning visit to gain information and see how things work/are, if you don’t speak Spanish fluently be prepared for misunderstandings because somethings get lost in translation. Even if you use a translation app.

Also again keep expectations realistic; the paid-for-sex experience can be an expensive hobby for most people.

If you daydream and think about it at work and you spend full weekends doing research you should have a good idea about it being possible but… can you really afford it?

“Don’t Buy Things You Can’t Afford”

Despite it being a simple premise, people living/visiting Americans buy things that they cannot afford all of the time and end up in debt and unhappy.

If you really can afford the paid for-sex-hobby south of the border, just take a plane, train, bus to San Diego and then the trolley/streetcar to the border and walk across to the Happiest Place on Earth (according to Krusty)

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When going into Mexico the Mexican border officials might ask you for the Visitor Permit (FMM) and the permit will be stamped and the number of days that is valid noted on it (up to 180) and you keep half of the Visitor Permit.

Keep the Visitor Permit with your passport card or passport because you are supposed to show it to Mexican government officials, if they ask for it, and ultimately you will have to give it back to a Mexican immigration official when you leave Mexico.

After crossing the border, joust walk over the pick up place for the Free Limousine ride service to Hong Kong, the people there will be happy to help you, and tip the limo driver a couple of dollars.

This is an Instagram video of the FREE limo ride:

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When you get to the hotel Cascadas, get the VIP card for the discounts and offers in case you end up wanting to take girls to your room (arriba) more than once a day, and just get a “basic room”, and check in.

I recommend to go to eat something light at the restaurant azul and then take a shower before going inside Hong Kong.

Inside the club walk around and see if any girl is of your liking and approach her, to “interview” her to see if she is right for the “job/position” of going with you upstairs (arriba)

Make sure you and her are clear about what is expected of each other, basic is full service (covered) for $100-$120 for half an hour, everything else is extra.

YES; that is the basic full service, from there everything else has to be negotiated in the paid-for-sex experience. Like restaurants, every bargirl has their own menu, and rules and have the “right to refuse service”.

Remember you are visiting a different country with a different culture a different language, but very nice people and really good food, an interesting “experiences” that you should be able and happy that you can afford.

As long as you behave like respectable, friendly, gentleman, you will be treated like a friendly, respectable gentleman.

Don’t overthink things, nothing is going to be exactly like you imagined or were told, just be prepared for the worst and hope for the best that way you won’t be surprised or disappointed.

Just relax stay open to the positive experiences so you can have a good enjoyable time.

Keep in mind the Russian proverb:

“People greet you according to the way you dress and say goodbay according to the way you behave"

Don’t drink or do drugs or do or carry anything illegal, focus on enjoying your first visit to Tijuana and Hong Kong experience, relax and enjoy the learning process.

When you’re ready to leave, check out from the hotel and ask for the limo to take you back to the border and walk back to the USA.

Let’s be careful out there.

Remember Pics and Vids or it didn’t happen. :D

They speak English in Detroit (we’ll sort of)

Just sayin’ it’s a whole lot easier

^ You can also find 7s, 8s, and 9s from vanilla to chocolate girls in Figueroa Street in Los Angeles for 20 minutes for $100 if you are patient and look carefully.

^ for your exploitative pleasure, hypocrite

"You can also find 7s, 8s, and 9s from vanilla to chocolate girls in Figueroa Street in Los Angeles for 20 minutes for $100 if you are patient and look carefully."

But unlike Mexico, patronizing them is not legal.

@PutaTester

The new California Law, starting January 1 2023, (Senate Bill 357) decriminalizes "loitering with the intent to engage in prostitution."

Because of this new law the police and the prosecutors are not doing anything to the Girls “working and walking” on Figueroa Street, this situation gives girls, many “civilians”, the opportunity to try to see it is a good side hustle.

Not all of the girls are drug addicts or career criminals, many are just civilians trying to make ends meet, pay student loans, medical bills, or buy some luxuries they can’t afford.

Figueroa Street Girls are a reasonable option to people that don’t want to spend a lot of money at a strip club and end up not being able to “close the deal”, or travel to Nevada or Tijuana.

It is just one more option to consider.

CJ I understand your point and loitering might have been made legal, but prostitution is still illegal on Figueroa. Just like crossing the border, we all weigh the risks and rewards.

That said, clearly I support the legalization and legitimization of prostitution everywhere in the world. Human trafficking and other crimes would be reduced if working women could go to the authorities without fear of prosecution or persecution.

@Tuscl889, I'm far from a seasoned TJ vet, but let me try to answer some of your questions that haven't been answered yet.

can you book web reservation at cascadas under fake email/phone number and then simply pay them at reception. Don’t want to share identifiable information.

I'm not 100% positive on this, but I'm pretty sure even if you pay cash for your room the hotel staff will still want to check your ID. There was a serial killer on the loose targeting women at HK, so security measures are in high gear. Be prepared also for them to go through all your luggage when you check in. And don't bring a camera, they won't let you bring it into the hotel.

is it common to get girls to have shower before starting up with them

Chicas, I learned on my last trip, avoid the shower because it musses up their hair. Most will clean up in the sink when you finish with them. You could still ask and I'm sure some chicas will be down to start a session with a shower, just be aware not all of them will.

Another thing you could do here if cleanliness is a concern is book a jacuzzi room, and start your sessions with a soapy dip in the jacuzzi. Most, if not all, Chicas are happy to put their hair up and jump in the jacuzzi. Just be aware that you're probably looking at an hour session with a dip in the jacuzzi first, it's tough to squeeze that in during a half hour session.

how to not get hustled in general especially if not a Spanish speaker?

As @RedBaron12 mentioned, know prices. When I was last there, $100 HH / $200 H was the going rate for arriba. The peso is up 20% on the dollar since I was last there, so I'm expecting to pay $120 HH / $240 H when I visit next. I found I didn't have to haggle much on price, if I didn't mention it specifically, the standard expectation was $100 per half hour. (Again, I'm expecting to pay 20% more next trip, due to the exchange rate.)

Look out for the $30 wine ficha. Here's some key phrases to avoid it:

• "Quieres una cerveza?" | Do you want a beer?
• "Una cerveza y una mesa para los dos" | A beer and a table for the two of us

Going to Chicago Club, Bar Tropical, or other local clubs is another way to avoid the dreaded $30 ficha.

You can (and will probably want) to spend a small fortune on fichas, here's some handy phrases to preserve your funds and move on if a ficha isn't going well:

• "No mas, gracias" | No more, thank you - tell your mesero this and the chica will get the point
• "Gracias, amiga" | Thanks friend - offered with a small propina this will convey you're ready to move on
• "Gracias corazón, pero voy a conocer otras chicas" | Thanks my lovely, but I'm going to meet other girls

Also does ATT/Verizon work there? And how is the Wi-Fi situation?

I have Verizon and was on "E" everywhere I went in the club and the hotel. I was able to get on the Hotel Cascadas wifi by asking the front desk, so I could get texts through that way in the hotel. I did see a password protected wifi network in the club, but didn't ask about getting on it. Next trip I'll try to do that and report back.

any other general advice

Bring your own condoms and lube, that will save some cash. The hotel condoms suck and they're expensive. Also if you're planning to take Viagra or Cialis, you can get it way cheaper at the nearby farmacia than at the club or from the viajeros.

Bring enough cash. The ATM in the club charges exorbitant transaction and exchange fees, as do other nearby ATMs.

Download the spanish language pack for google translate so you can still use it when your phone doesn't work in the club.

The VIP rooms at HK are a great way to warm up for an arriba. They cost $100, and come with 10 ficha drinks (which you can certainly share unless your chica is a complete lush). Chicas will be happy to give you grindy, high mileage lap dances for the hour for a tip of $60-100 on top of the $100 room fee. IMHO, you could easily spend close to $160 in an hour on regular fichas, drinks, and propinas and you wouldn't get nearly as good dances, or the baller experience of a private room with one-way glass overlooking the club. The VIP rooms are a good value if you're interested in quality time before you commit to an arriba.

especially for safety?

The club is safe enough. The area around it is definitely sketchy. Keep your wits about you and your head on a swivel if you're planning to explore other clubs or to walk around and take a look at the paraditas.