I think it's different for every woman. I knew girls in high school who never looked better later on than they did back then. On the other hand, there were always a few "ugly ducklings" who blossomed into women so incredibly beautiful you can't believe they're the same person.
I will admit that I'm drawn to the beauty of women in their early 20s to early 30s, but I have known other women who have become more beautiful much later in life. If they stay fit, their beauty can last quite a while and, in some case, actually increase. I've gotten dances from beautiful women I knew were in their 50s. Maybe I didn't know them at their peak, but what I saw (and experienced up close) sure convinced me that beauty is not always fleeting.
I read a report from the website Match.com from a decade ago that the most sought after woman on their platform was 25 years old, athletic, Caucasian, brown hair, blue eyes, 5'5", etc.
I asked a bunch of blue collar guys (ages between 30 to 70) this question at work on Friday. All of their answers were between 21 and 26. After that, it is harder to stay in shape and gravity starts taking effect. That is not saying there are still a few good years after their peak, but aging is crueler to women than men.
The reason I ask is I see a lot of women in their mid-30's to early 40's complaining they are single, and they cannot find a good man. These women don't realize they hit their peak years ago and are losing their beauty and reproductive ability by the day. A report came out the other day that there is a record number of women nowadays hitting 40 and never getting married or having kids. The funny thing is they are on the downward side of the peak and still say they need a man that makes at least $XXX,XXX and is at least 6'XX" tall and has model looks. They themselves are past their prime and think they can get still get the top 1% of men. The top 1% of men in their respective age bracket are pulling twenty-somethings in their prime, not past their prime bitter women.
The younger girls from about 25-29 as a group are generally hot, but when you see a well preserved 35-45 year old who’s genuinely gorgeous she’s going to be so much hotter and much more attractive than most of the young getting by on her looks type, not all women in that age group are hot but the one’s that are are much hotter than the younger girls.
So, what this is really about ultimately is a fantasy, that we'd be appealing enough to women that we could choose the "perfectly ripe" ones.
Seems like a waste of time to me, when I could fantasize about being the porn version of Major Nelson. With my loving Jeannie, who will happily provide any physical appearance that strikes my fancy at any given time. So I could be with Avena Lee one night, and hyper-MILFy Maserati the next. I guess for some it's a interesting exercise what woman/type they'd pick if they could only pick one. But not for me.
My ATF escort was 36, four kids, pear shaped with nice C implants. I would tip her about 65% of her asking rate. She seemed to have a much lower opinion of her body than I did. She had danced she was younger. I would guess pregnancy made her curvier (and made her feel the need for implants), and she thought she was hotter as pedo fodder than as a MILF.
Physically? 21. Not every single woman of course, and the curve is pretty flat from 18-29.
Beyond that though a lot of it is influenced by her natural weight level (skinny women tend to resist the natural adding of pounds as our metabolism slows), if she has kids or not, fitness level and race.
Peak desirability is probably 25. The 21 year old might look better in a photo, but the 25 year old probably has a better idea of what to do with what she's got.
I once read something about a study on the average price prostitutes charge in countries where it is legal. The twenty-year-olds charged twice as much as the thirty-year-olds and the thirty-year-olds charged twice as much as the forty-year-olds. Supply and demand led to an average price that was higher for the younger ones. Where it was legal and there was a large supply of twenty-year-olds, the demand for older ones twice that age was pretty low.
I don't know if it's beauty or desirability you mean. Just looking at the women I currently work with, I find one of them who is 50-something to be beautiful, but not someone I really desire. OTOH, there's a lady who's 20-something I work around frequently who isn't any sort of conventional beauty, but I would absolutely take her to bed.
As I get older, the age bracket for women I find attractive is getting corresponding higher. It’s not a conscious decision, just something that is happening naturally.
I still find 20 yos hot, but also love good looking 50 something’s.
I think there’s an unconscious appreciation of the good genetics and effort of fit, beautiful older women.
I think many times faces get more attractive from 25-29. Look at high school yearbook pictures versus 10 years later. Also compare old pictures of actresses - but that one is probably unfair because with money comes better fitness, nutrition, surgeries etc
But for unclothed bodies, it’s got to be the tighter bodies of a 21-22 year old. But having said that, I rarely go for that in strip clubs, as I prefer the overall package that a 28 year old brings to the table
23-24 would be my guess. They are still filling out their body during their college years. There is noticeable downward changes in most women by the time they hit their late 20s.
You cannot put a hard number on it, but it almost always before 40. Biologically, at 40 years old your body behind losing lean muscle mass and had much more difficulty creating more. Women, especially, are at a disadvantage since their bodies usually never create as much muscle as men to begin with.
The attitude that Sinclair describes amongst these aging debutantes if a special form of GPS manifesting as the "6/6/6 Rule." These women refuse to date a guy who is less than 6' tall, earning a 6-figure income, with at least a 6" cock. They will not settle for 2 out of 3. The number of women seeking a 6/6/6 vastly outnumbers the number of attractive (physically and mentally) men fitting that description. The letlftover find themselves aging past their prime with their prospecta rapidly falling. I don't feel sorry for them.
If the poor women only new about the deep reservoir of available 6/6/6 studs here on TUSCL. They'd only have to hop on the nearest chrome pole to find us.
'Whatever it is, I think Mexican girls peak first. 18,19...shit can't beat it. But they just can't seem to make it to 30 without completely blowing up.'
When strippers have given me their honest weight, it usually surprises me how much it is. Good hustle (which I strongly prefer) leads to muscle mass. If not from pole/floor work, then from lapping the club all night. It takes unusual (and unhealthy) types of exercise (low resistance, high rep) to get bulky muscles.
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I will admit that I'm drawn to the beauty of women in their early 20s to early 30s, but I have known other women who have become more beautiful much later in life. If they stay fit, their beauty can last quite a while and, in some case, actually increase. I've gotten dances from beautiful women I knew were in their 50s. Maybe I didn't know them at their peak, but what I saw (and experienced up close) sure convinced me that beauty is not always fleeting.
I asked a bunch of blue collar guys (ages between 30 to 70) this question at work on Friday. All of their answers were between 21 and 26. After that, it is harder to stay in shape and gravity starts taking effect. That is not saying there are still a few good years after their peak, but aging is crueler to women than men.
The reason I ask is I see a lot of women in their mid-30's to early 40's complaining they are single, and they cannot find a good man. These women don't realize they hit their peak years ago and are losing their beauty and reproductive ability by the day. A report came out the other day that there is a record number of women nowadays hitting 40 and never getting married or having kids. The funny thing is they are on the downward side of the peak and still say they need a man that makes at least $XXX,XXX and is at least 6'XX" tall and has model looks. They themselves are past their prime and think they can get still get the top 1% of men. The top 1% of men in their respective age bracket are pulling twenty-somethings in their prime, not past their prime bitter women.
Seems like a waste of time to me, when I could fantasize about being the porn version of Major Nelson. With my loving Jeannie, who will happily provide any physical appearance that strikes my fancy at any given time. So I could be with Avena Lee one night, and hyper-MILFy Maserati the next. I guess for some it's a interesting exercise what woman/type they'd pick if they could only pick one. But not for me.
My ATF escort was 36, four kids, pear shaped with nice C implants. I would tip her about 65% of her asking rate. She seemed to have a much lower opinion of her body than I did. She had danced she was younger. I would guess pregnancy made her curvier (and made her feel the need for implants), and she thought she was hotter as pedo fodder than as a MILF.
Beyond that though a lot of it is influenced by her natural weight level (skinny women tend to resist the natural adding of pounds as our metabolism slows), if she has kids or not, fitness level and race.
Peak desirability is probably 25. The 21 year old might look better in a photo, but the 25 year old probably has a better idea of what to do with what she's got.
If you see a 35 year old that you think is hot, trust me she’s hotter when she was 20
I still find 20 yos hot, but also love good looking 50 something’s.
I think there’s an unconscious appreciation of the good genetics and effort of fit, beautiful older women.
I think many times faces get more attractive from 25-29. Look at high school yearbook pictures versus 10 years later. Also compare old pictures of actresses - but that one is probably unfair because with money comes better fitness, nutrition, surgeries etc
But for unclothed bodies, it’s got to be the tighter bodies of a 21-22 year old. But having said that, I rarely go for that in strip clubs, as I prefer the overall package that a 28 year old brings to the table
The average female porn start enters the industry at 22.
And lasts an average of only 3 years.
A different analysis found:
The most common age for a female porn start is 21 (...MILFs skew the average upwards)
with 63% between 20-24
Of course different women peak at different time... but I figure the statistical average is about right over a large enough population
The attitude that Sinclair describes amongst these aging debutantes if a special form of GPS manifesting as the "6/6/6 Rule." These women refuse to date a guy who is less than 6' tall, earning a 6-figure income, with at least a 6" cock. They will not settle for 2 out of 3. The number of women seeking a 6/6/6 vastly outnumbers the number of attractive (physically and mentally) men fitting that description. The letlftover find themselves aging past their prime with their prospecta rapidly falling. I don't feel sorry for them.
If the poor women only new about the deep reservoir of available 6/6/6 studs here on TUSCL. They'd only have to hop on the nearest chrome pole to find us.
That seems to apply to most Latinas.