Depressing experience

There are depressed individuals in every workplace. The difference is that at a strip club, those people can't hide in a cubicle.

While empathy is a good thing, don't get wrapped around an axle over a single person going through a bad patch. There's plenty more out there; it's best to focus on those you can potentially help (friends/family).

Unfortunately, that girl made some bad choices, likely exacerbated by exposures encountered in clubs. Some girls drink/get high because they need to be numb to do their jobs. For others, it's peer pressure or simply being around activities and not being able to avoid certain things.

Remember this...don't make her a project. It will not have the desired outcome. It's possible, even likely, that she doesn't have an interest in being saved. There are skilled professionals who are best suited to help people stuck in bad situations.

And, as Ishmael stated, people in all professions have these same issues.

Wise words CMI.

I had a similar experience a few weeks back. I went to a club that was basically a Jiffy Lube for mongers. Going in I thought it was a normal strip club with stage shows and private dances, but it wasn't. Some of the dancers were clearly out of their minds on drugs. One talked to me for about five minutes, then two minutes later came back and didn't even remember she just talked to me. Another one just kept shaking. It was sad because these girls were in their younger 21-25 trying to support their kids and their baby daddies. It wouldn't surprised me if they were dead from overdose or suicide within a decade.

At most club I'd estimate at least 50% of the workers look miserable like they'd rather be elsewhere. Approximately the same ratio at my work. At clubs their misery is just a little more out there.

It happens.

Lots of them vape on the back porch and I'm sure it's more than JUUL.

I won't get dances or VIP from anyone who's obviously out of it. Not only do I fear getting puked on but it makes me feel (more) guilty for indulging in this hobby.

I'm sure a lot more are miserable than they let on. They're selling a fantasy of highly desirable, sexually available women who are interested in you, and triggering sympathy breaks the fantasy.

It's difficult for people with drug or alcohol problems to hold conventional jobs so they tend to seek out unconventional jobs. I think one such job is stripping. I do think it attracts such people in larger numbers. The girls like that, though, have short careers. If they don't get fired for getting drunk or doing drugs on the job, their lifestyle quickly erodes their looks and they can't make money anymore. I've seen gorgeous 18-year-old strippers five years later look they are in their thirties because of drugs, alcohol, cigarette smoking and a bad diet.

I don't judge them, perhaps the high is so great it's worth throwing their lives away. Their life, their choice. Last nite I was fucking a semi-hot bartender, she told me she had bought 3 hits of acid. I told her about my last acid trip, before she was born, and how you really don't know what you're getting. I think she wanted to do it with me, but the only drugs I do are beer, viagra and pot

"I've seen gorgeous 18-year-old strippers five years later look they are in their thirties because of drugs, alcohol, cigarette smoking and a bad diet."

Go to The Block in Baltimore for evidence of this. Start at Indulge and head toward Circus, going club by club. You will see a clear progression/regression, like time lapse photography.

I've also seen specific girls erode over time. It's sad.

I try not to get too invested but yeah I’ve definitely had that feeling. You can tell some really struggle.

One stripper passed out while we were in the couch room. (I went and got her friend who took care of her.) The next time I saw her, she felt she had to thank me for not raping her when I could have. It would probably would be best if it were illegal for strippers to drink (or use other substances) while working. Most people can't drink at work, so not especially harsh.

There's LOTS of unhappiness in this ugly world. You can only help others so much. If you can't help get depressed when seeing unhappiness, you're going to have a live a very withdrawn life.

“ At most club I'd estimate at least 50% of the workers look miserable like they'd rather be elsewhere. ”

I think this is true for about every place of employment in America right now. COVID really changed a lot of things and I (like others) saw it first hand. 25 year employees being furloughed, forced to go collect unemployment while their bosses raked in PPP loans. Then their bosses still wanted them to do some work. Just one example of how people used to see their job as a career and had pride in it and now many view it as simply something they have to do for survival.

If you have a job you at least like some of the time and are fairly compensated for it you are lucky, you are a minority these days.

As for strip clubd I imagine it’s not nearly as easy to work there as it once was, and the temptations inside a strip club aren’t only there for customers.

I guess for me I’ve never done drugs and stopped drinking a long time ago. However I have had treated mental health problems. I’m bipolar and do have some anxiety problems. I’m doing well but it is tough when you run into someone who is clearly struggling. Sometimes I’d like to help but in reality I’m clearly not in a position to be that person for a variety of reasons not the least of which is the dynamic between a customer and dancer.

>> "It would probably would be best if it were illegal for strippers to drink (or use other substances) while working. Most people can't drink at work, so not especially harsh."

How nonchalantly you would hand over the freedom of others to an entity which cares nothing about your well-being...

@5footguy should construction work be hard-hat optional cause freedom? It's a simple safety precaution for strippers to not drink at work. There will always be predatory PLs, they have to keep their guard up. If it's important to a PL that a stripper have a drink, when is that for benign reasons? The availability of work where you can drink or otherwise get loaded on the job enables people to not seek treatment for substance abuse.

If that girl wasn’t high at her strip club job she would be high at her whatever else job.

When I started dancing I saw a lot of drugs but as stripping has become more mainstream and girls are serious about it as their main job, serious about what it can do for them, serious about maximizing their earning potential etc etc, there are less and less of this kind of girl itc. When I started dancing also, most girls did it as a “just for now” or side hustle thing, there weren’t as many girls who were only dancing, now that’s changed too, but the only dancing crowd is mainly as I described above, not strung out and more “professional” about doing this job than in the past.

If this is not what your are observing itc it maybe speaks to the kind of places you are going to. 🤷🏼‍♀️

A lot of clubs willl cut girls off if they’ve visibly had too much to drink.

“ At most club I'd estimate at least 50% of the workers look miserable like they'd rather be elsewhere. ”

Quite honestly, the same can be said of the PLs that patronize the clubs. They wish they could be getting what they came for elsewhere.