And yet I've been entering and exiting VIP rooms for years (decades, in truth) without having one encounter with a vice cop.
I also find it difficult (or impossible) to believe that in strip clubs across the country, there's one sad vice cop sitting at the bar with a notebook jotting down:
8:22 pm: Bald old white guy entering VIP 8:26 pm: Taller old white guy leaving VIP. 8:31 pm: Fat old white white guy entering VIP. 8:39 pm: Black guy entering VIP (nope, old white guy with dark tan).
I just don’t buy it either. In some of these cities now, crime is essentially legal. You got people just running amok doing WHATEVER the fuck they want. The world has really changed very quickly, you really got to do something crazy nowadays to be prosecuted. If they are wasting their time on this bullshit I would be very upset as a taxpayer, on top of the already there upset ofcourse.
There was one time once where I thought LE was at a local club at the same time as me. I wrote about it here https://app.tuscl.net/review/345606 obviously they have been at clubs in Seattle more than this, bc they have busted a few over the years. But all the time? Not here. Half the time there is only me and dancers and a manager in the club anyway.
If there are vice cops in all strip clubs at all times and I am the only customer in the club does that mean one of dancers is a vice cop? Or does it mean I am a vice cop?
What a stupid comment from the op. Although a raid occurs once in a great while and a club gets shut down, that is the exception, not the rule. Are you going to follow up your post by saying how sitting on a public toilet seat will give you Aids? Keep up the good work sherlock.
At one point in time, some hard-ass at San Diego PD Vice got a hard-on for any type of sexualy oriented type of work. They ran stings on escorts and their customers pretty much full time.
They also went after dancers and clubs for any type of infraction they could find using undercover officers. A 6' rule technically exists in San Diego for dancers and patrons. They aso tried to buy drugs from staff. The infractions allowed them to go after the liquor license of the clubs and essentially kill off the clubs. Today, there is only one single strip club that serves alcohol.
So, it does happen but I was never worried about the police as a customer. The worry I always had in San Diego was the manager coming over and nagging the dancers and me for doing things that weren't allowed. They didn't do much more than nag and we could continue when the manager's back was turned.
I've been in 2 clubs during a vice raid. One at the Memphis Platinum Plus and once at Follies. In both cases there were a couple of officers wearing masks to hide their identity. They were the under cover cops that led up to the raids.
"Doubt it. They're more focused on activities on the street than in clubs. Rarity at best"
So the other week I missed a vice raid by about 5 minutes. Some clubs just have bad luck and their towns have it in for them. This is one of those hypothetical topics where it doesn't hurt to talk about it but it's going to vary greatly by region.
The Providence dudes can just grab some popcorn and watch because your town literally didn't bother to attempt curbing prostitution until a few years ago lol...
Whenever a new liberal gets elected in Providence they go after the strip clubs; well, except for Club Desire. Things go back to full contact lap dances the Alcohola and beverage commission tells the Police to fuck off and we go back to normal. Its the opposite of Massachusetts. Why you ask? Boston is an Irish town and the Irish are to sex as McDonalds is to fine dining. Providence is an Italian town and we can only be non-sexual for a few days at most so we're liberal about sex.
"I've been in 2 clubs during a vice raid. One at the Memphis Platinum Plus"
i was there for one of those raids. when a raid was on the dj would announce 2 for 1 beers. when i heard this i questioned why the club would do this on a busy saturday night. years later a waitress told me the whole real deal.
Maybe, very occasionally around local election time, if someone is trying to get recognized for “cleaning up the city”. But other than that, the only time vice cops are in strip clubs is as customers. Law enforcement is well aware of what goes on in strip clubs, but they typically have more important crime to fight. However, I don’t want to overlook the fact that trafficking is a real problem.
@rattdog, The time I as there the DJ announced 2 for 1 drinks until the VIP room reopened. I was told that 50 customers and dancers got citations. 90 minutes after the cops left I got my first ever BBBJ in a strip club.
Well, I there was this one council of ricks meetup that was definitely watched by a vice cop. How does this rick know? Simple: the cop told us at the end of the night.
You see, the cop said he saw us drive up all loaded on drivin’ whiskey, as we ricks are wont to do, and thought he’d what kind of demented drunken perverts we were. However, after watching us for a few hours he came to the conclusion that we ricks we so cool that he almost couldn’t wrap his brain around how cool we were. Even gave me his note…they read:
Suit-wearing weirdo takes dancer to champagne room. OMG! A lion wearing a suit just took a dancer to the champagne room. NOW IT’S A FRICKIN’ COCONUT CRAB IN A FRICKIN’ SUIT TAKING Guy that I believed to be a weirdo exits champagne room with stripper. However, I have now realized that said guy is not only not a weirdo but he is actually super cool and smart. …
Anyhoo, his notes went on and on like that until he came over to join us. Gave us his notes and apologized for viewing us as a potential problem given how cool we were. Then we all had a good ol’ time drinkin’ Jack and Jim and he congratulated us for being such great guys so we bought him a trip to the champagne room with a sexy female hairless ape. Just goes to show that even the cops love the ricks. ROAR!!!
Funonthaside depending on the jurisdiction the customers that are caught doing extras are generally charged with soliciting prostitution or some type of lewd conduct charge. As long as you aren't caught in a sexual act the customer usually doesn't have to worry about being charged.
Thanks, whodey. I was mostly surprised of the volume of people cited (50). Seems strange that so many would have been engaged in prohibited activities at once (unless, I suppose, it was at an enormous club).
@funonthaside - The 50 that got citations were all in the communal VIP room at the time the cops came in and closed off the VIP room. Both customers and dancers got the citations. Nobody out in the main room got bothered.
Only time the cops raided a bar I was in was a super crowded corner sports bar popular with the younger clientele. They carded all the patrons and arrested all the under 21s.
I've never seen a vice cop arresting someone or a vice raid in hundreds of strip club trips. Dancers have told me they do sometimes come in. Usually, you can spot them because they are looking around a lot. The dancers seem to worry they'll be caught with their nipples not covered up because that can result in a hefty fine. I've asked a dancer if I look like a vice cop, and she said I look like an artist. I then told her I work in accounting, and she said I don't look like an accountant.
When a dancer I’ve just met asks if I’m “law enforcement” it’s music to my ears, second only to “I’ve got condoms” which is a greeting I’ve received a time or two at a couple Providence clubs. The “law enforcement” question tells me that the dancer is of the mindset to offer extra entertainment, subject to the answer to the question. And the question is a lousy screening mechanism. LEOs are at liberty to lie their asses off, and the question itself is evidence of criminal intent
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And yet I've been entering and exiting VIP rooms for years (decades, in truth) without having one encounter with a vice cop.
I also find it difficult (or impossible) to believe that in strip clubs across the country, there's one sad vice cop sitting at the bar with a notebook jotting down:
8:22 pm: Bald old white guy entering VIP
8:26 pm: Taller old white guy leaving VIP.
8:31 pm: Fat old white white guy entering VIP.
8:39 pm: Black guy entering VIP (nope, old white guy with dark tan).
Not buying it.
I had this conversation with a dancer at Desire, how I'm damn sure they've greased palms at Police One and City Hall.
LOL
They also went after dancers and clubs for any type of infraction they could find using undercover officers. A 6' rule technically exists in San Diego for dancers and patrons. They aso tried to buy drugs from staff. The infractions allowed them to go after the liquor license of the clubs and essentially kill off the clubs. Today, there is only one single strip club
that serves alcohol.
So, it does happen but I was never worried about the police as a customer. The worry I always had in San Diego was the manager coming over and nagging the dancers and me for doing things that weren't allowed. They didn't do much more than nag and we could continue when the manager's back was turned.
So the other week I missed a vice raid by about 5 minutes. Some clubs just have bad luck and their towns have it in for them. This is one of those hypothetical topics where it doesn't hurt to talk about it but it's going to vary greatly by region.
The Providence dudes can just grab some popcorn and watch because your town literally didn't bother to attempt curbing prostitution until a few years ago lol...
i was there for one of those raids. when a raid was on the dj would announce 2 for 1 beers. when i heard this i questioned why the club would do this on a busy saturday night. years later a waitress told me the whole real deal.
You see, the cop said he saw us drive up all loaded on drivin’ whiskey, as we ricks are wont to do, and thought he’d what kind of demented drunken perverts we were. However, after watching us for a few hours he came to the conclusion that we ricks we so cool that he almost couldn’t wrap his brain around how cool we were. Even gave me his note…they read:
Suit-wearing weirdo takes dancer to champagne room.
OMG! A lion wearing a suit just took a dancer to the champagne room.
NOW IT’S A FRICKIN’ COCONUT CRAB IN A FRICKIN’ SUIT TAKING
Guy that I believed to be a weirdo exits champagne room with stripper. However, I have now realized that said guy is not only not a weirdo but he is actually super cool and smart.
…
Anyhoo, his notes went on and on like that until he came over to join us. Gave us his notes and apologized for viewing us as a potential problem given how cool we were. Then we all had a good ol’ time drinkin’ Jack and Jim and he congratulated us for being such great guys so we bought him a trip to the champagne room with a sexy female hairless ape. Just goes to show that even the cops love the ricks. ROAR!!!