Anyone from Ohio ?
mark94
Arizona
The 14 rail cars that derailed then were apparently intentionally set on fire ( details are very sketchy ) contained toxic chemicals that have covered the state, killing animals a hundred miles away and poisoning the Ohio River, which flows through 14% of our nation.
Can anyone from Ohio shed light on this ? The government isn’t talking and the media is barely covering.
Can anyone from Ohio shed light on this ? The government isn’t talking and the media is barely covering.
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East Palestine is a poor, white trash, rust belt town. Not the type of place CNN and MSNBC can use to exploit their agenda
It's received massive coverage in the Cleveland market news reports that I've seen from the moment it started up until around 24 hours ago where the coverage has dropped some.
Now I haven't been following closely so I'm sure I'm not up on everything happening but I have not heard anything about animals dying 100 miles away or Chernobyl comparisons. No doubt there were very deadly chemicals on that train that doubtless will affect the surrounding area but how far it actually extends and all of the actual effects will likely take months, maybe years to decipher long term effects.
As for the fire being intentionally set, if you mean sabotage I sort of doubt it. A day after it happened I saw a video picked up by a doorbell camera a couple miles up the line that showed flames coming from a rail car's wheels on fire as it passed by. Bad/stuck wheel bearings which led to the derailment and ensuing fire? Possibly.
Now I'm not clear on if they actually purposely burnt the chemicals as they released them to prevent explosions. Also I'm not well versed on hazardous effects but it makes sense to me that a slow controlled release is better than multiple uncontrolled explosions.
With the train on fire and the deadly chemicals in danger of exploding, 'officials' decided to start a slow release of the chemicals into the air to prevent an uncontrolled explosion. If they actually increased the fire I do not know.
That's all I recall at this moment.
https://fox8.com/news/ntsb-footage-shows…
One thing I predict, a few years from now there will be an uptick in cancer cases in the immediate area.
Anyway, that’s the word I’m hearing.
Thank you 'Union Joe' Biden for your role in busting the railroad strike.
Our leaders have hung us out to dry for the last half decade at least.
Fair and balanced: some conservative talking heads want to run in the far opposite direction and make this all the democrat party's fault. That's not intellectually honest.
Bottom line: the ramifications for the entire Ohio River watershed of more frightening than can be put into words. We need immediate action to rectify and prevent further ecological and environmwntal damage toban already threatened ecosystem. Blame and mitigation of recurrence must come later.
Because of our climate investments, our kids will breathe cleaner air, drink safer water, and get to school powered by clean energy," Biden tweeted Tuesday morning. The president added, "That’s the future we’re building," tapping EPA Administrator Michael Regan, "let’s finish the job."
Phosgene is extremely poisonous and was used as a chemical weapon during World War I, where it was responsible for 85,000 deaths. It is a highly potent pulmonary irritant and quickly filled enemy trenches due to it being a heavy gas.
I’m not a scientist (and guess many posting here are also not) but is this maybe why the correct protocol is to release it under control and burn it? Nobody has died yet from the gas, right?
2019 - 1242
2020 - 1013
2021 - 1002
2022 - 1044
https://safetydata.fra.dot.gov/officeofs…
Maybe under perfect conditions?
I'm not privy to the discussions regarding what to do with that mess but the 'official' reasoning was that they were working against time to prevent an impending explosion and chose the best course of action for the conditions.
Disclaimer: When it comes to governments and corporations rushing to cover their asses and save money I'm pretty skeptical regarding what they say/do but until actual evidence presents itself I can only go by what I see.
Doubtless you are an expert on being hypocritical dougee, it's also doubtless that you can't actually perceive it, lulz
He really thinks leftist politics absolve him from being a scumbag.
https://theohiostar.com/2023/02/15/penns…
In the context of this specific incident and the associated risks... says who ?
The crash shouldn't have happened its due to poor regulations and negligence. But fuck the people. Corporations are saving money and increasing their profit margins. We should be happy right??? That's the mantra on here with everything else except for hookers. They have to stay cheap.
And wild4tatas you're a fucking retarded steeple with no brain of your own. You just repeat whatever that senile biden bitch and his sycophants rant
dougster not icey lulz
The government told you that if you liked your plan, you could keep your plan.
The government told you Trump would cause WW3.
The government told you Trump was a Russian asset.
The government told you 2 weeks to flatten the curve.
The government told you that inflation was transitory.
The government told you the vaccine was safe and effective.
Now, the government is telling the people of East Palestine Ohio that there is no danger.
The government can't be trusted.
Number of people who have died from the Ohio rail accident: 0
Number of people who have died from guns in the same time frame: approx. 1600
So, yes, 1,600 deaths are far too many, but these are a lot of categories and circumstances within those numbers.
Second, after a spate of catastrophic derailments including one in NJ involving vinyl chloride, the Obama administration recommended stricter rules for trains carrying hazardous materials including stricter speed limits, stronger rail cars, more advanced brakes and better disclosure to inform states of what was passing through on the rails. The RR lobbied against it, but they did implement rules requiring more advanced braking systems on some hazmat trains. Trump repealed the rule after the RR industry contributed $6mm into 2016 republican campaigns.
Would the rule have prevented this disaster? Who knows, but when you complain about government incompetence be mindful that it falls on both sides of the aisle.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/17/opini…
I've been confused for black, but I'm no one's African-American.
"So, yes, 1,600 deaths are far too many, but these are a lot of categories and circumstances within those numbers."
Which is why anyone who conflates the various causes of deaths from guns isn't sincere. Suicides happen with whatever's in reach. Japan's suicide rate dwarfs ours, and the Emperor of Japan himself would have a rough time getting a gun. Hanging is almost as sure as a self-inflicted gunshot wound (I guess most people don't know how to properly off themselves).
Not diverse enough, I guess.
Doesn't help that Ohio's gone red, and East Palestine is solid Trump country.
Don't know where the NY Times dug that up, but it sounds absolutely absurd. I couldn't find very much historical data to either corroborate or disprove that figure, but common sense would tell you that 99% of them were so minor and inconsequential that they didn't even make the news. In fact, taking away 99% would still mean 350 or almost 1 per day, and since there are only a few "newsworthy" derailments every year, I'd say almost NONE of those 35,000 were of any real importance.
And regarding the 1000 or so number (currently) I've heard thrown around, well here's an article from Newsweek dated 2/13/23: https://www.newsweek.com/more-dozen-trai…
According to this there have been "more than a dozen" derailments thus far, meaning 1-1/2 months into the year. If you take that to mean about 15 and annualize it, that's 120. A far cry from 1000, but still one every three days. Do you hear about a train derailment twice a week all year long? I don't. That's because almost all of them are of no real consequence.
This disaster is potentially comparable to the Flint Michigan water crisis a few years ago, but that incompetent faggot Mayor Pete tries to marginalize it and downplay his own responsibility as Transportation Secretary by telling us it's just one of a thousand derailments. God forbid he might have to work an extra hour one day and be late getting home for a good ass-fucking.
"In barely over two years, Buttigieg has overseen a crippling supply chain crisis (during which time Buttigieg was AWOL on paternity leave); a near-horrific national rail strike avoided at the last minute; the first FAA grounding of all national flights since 9/11; and most recently, a series of high-profile, visually shocking, destructive train derailments. It is evidently not possible to be worse at one's job than the 41-year-old former mayor of Indiana's fourth-largest city is at being transportation secretary of the United States."
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl…
Yes, you are correct that many of these derailments are minor. However, if you are comparing apples to apples since 1970, you use the 35k number. My point is that they are trending down and the data supports that point. If you want to be debate the definition of derailment, that’s a different discussion.