Strip Club patrons: left, right, or middle of the road?

Here is my view, and I do not know how you might classify me. I am, without a doubt, an economic and scocial conservative, and a Constitutionalist, but I would not consider myself a moralist. I guess the best way to explain it would be, whatever one wishes to do, as long as it does not infringe on others, would pretty much be ok with me.

It's usually best when people "classify" themselves, but you don't have to if you don't want to. :)

I tend to be middle of the road. I did one of those questionnaires somewhere on the internet once that said I was a libertarian, but I don't know if I really believe that.

I brought up this point on the "off-topic: politics" thread. I too don't understand why a stripper hound would be conservative. Republicans of all stripes hate strip clubs and want them shut down. They *hate* guys like us. It's like Log Cabin Republicans; why do you want to be part of a group that despises you?

Now, _libertarians_ I can see frequenting SC's. Of course, I'd have to worry whenever I walk into a place with one there, for they insist on carrying a fucking gun.

Someyoungguy, most businessmen are Reoublicans. Lots businessmen also frequent strip clubs. Or at least they used to before the IRS changed the rules on entertaining. You seem to think that all Republicans are bible thumpers - most aren't.

Both parties are spit into two distinct groups. Republicans comprise both social/economic conservatives (often called oderates) and the religious right, which is actually the smaller half. Dempocrats similarly comprise moderates and liberals, which I also think is the smaller half. You aren't aware of this because the extremists of both parties get all the publicity because they make the most niose. But they are both in the minority even within their own parties. If the moderates of both parties ever got together they would dominate the political landscape. They dont because they aren't generally activists and tend to be apolitical. Which is why our politics is so screwed up.

I'd imagine the percentages are about the same as-- "Strip Club patrons: tall, short or somewhere in the middle"

Gotta agree with driver here. Left, right, or middle of the road, I'd imagine everyone is equally horny.

Really, who gives a flip! We all go to enjoy, at least I hope that is why. I can't remember the last, make that any political conversation I've ever had in a SC.

Typical regular, informed strip club patron or TUSCL denizen:

Libertarian, generally. That means socially "left wing" like the Democrats (let the gay guy be gay and don't care about it, as long as he doesn't try to fuck me, for instance; or, let everyone go to whatever kind of brothel or strip club he wants) but economically "right wing" like the Republicans (stop taxing me! let me spend money wherever I want! no government welfare programs!).

BUT

Typical strip club patron by sheer volume of numbers, though not as common on TUSCL:

Authoritarian and a sheep. Frat boy who needs his brothers' approval, good ole boy who thinks women's pussies are kind of "dirty" but loves looking at them. So, generally the opposite of the above, when it suits him, and much less organized or self-aware about it.

Fiscally conservative (don't start an activity you can't afford like the ill conceived Iraq war) and socially liberal (could care less about Gay marriage or abortions).

Dislike ALL the candidates equally. :)

I would beware those questionnaires on the Internet. One of my right-wing friends did one recently, and it said that she should vote for Hillary for President. She wasn't pleased...I was. :)

I've always wondered why "social conservatives" try to distance themselves from the Religious Right. Don't they have a lot of the same goals in mind??

I remember having plenty of political conversations in strip clubs...just not in the VIP area. I remember this one dancer at an old hangout of mine that would get *really* mad whenever someone said something bad about Bushy Boy..."He's defending our country!", she'd say.

The Religious Right and some of their supporters have been active on occasion in trying to shut down strip clubs. I have no interest in supporting their extreme views. However I am pro life for the unborn. Some of my views as far as money and the economy are more conservative. I want less taxes, less government spending, a balanced budget, an actual savings for social security instead of using it as just another pay as you go tax. Maybe even transfer social security to let people control their own savings a bit. Less government restriction on strip clubs. Generally if someone isn't hurting you or your property or property values, let them be.

On the other hand, I believe our government should have been more proactive in promoting and setting up alternative fuels so we don't have economic problems when the price of oil starts skyrocketing further in the years ahead. I like the idea of helping the markets improve things by working on infrastructure and incentives. Less taxation on businesses and individuals so that our economy and businesses will grow instead of leave. Then if we have surplus funds, we can help the disadvantaged with some health insurance but make people pay if they are able to and not give anyone a free ride when they are able to pay. I guess I'm a mixture but most would probably call me conservative based on my economic thinking. I think a war with terrorists is partly economic. Spending a trillion dollars on one part of the war is extremely costly. Let's forget the past and look forward. We do have an interest in Iraq helping promote democracy now or at least keeping the oil flowing to help the global economy. If there are oil shortages a few years from now, we might be fighting another war and paying $8 a gallon.

I thought Bush was a Republican and so are most of the people in the state I live in which is South Carolina. There are many strip clubs in Texas and in South Carolina. I thought Republicans were for less government regulation on businesses and strip clubs are a business. Meanwhile I thought the place where Hillary is currently a senator, New York I believe, had major restrictions put onto strip clubs within the last decade or so. She wants everyone to have a license for their guns. She sounds very restrictive and controlling to me. I equate Liberal with excessive restrictions and increased spending and taxation. Just my opinion. Maybe Hillary is an extreme Liberal and I got the view wrong on most liberals.

I think alot of us tend to be the "middle-of-the-road" types - Fiscally conservative, and socially fairly liberal.....pretty much moderates.

Less gov't, more SC's.

Sounds to me like most of you are libertarians (although in the closet) as am I. We, as adults, don't need nanny's as the dems want to be, nor do we need to be forced to acknowledge Christ as the repubs mostly want. Get your hands out of my pockets and your nose out of ALL of my life that doesn't interfere with yours.

Well apparently I am friends with one libertarian, I probably need to study that some more. He very much enjoyed one web site I told him about called www.abovetopsecret.com, a site full of conspiracy stories and blogs on recent events. Supposedly they talk about the truth and government coverups.

I am generally a conservative, probably a libertarian. I do have a soft spot in my heart for kids, so abortion is a problem for me.

I do support fairly aggressive zoning of all socially disruptive behavior--sexually oriented businesses, liquor licenses, etc. In other words, I really don't mind people getting the entertainment they like, but I don't object to them having to travel a little bit for it, in order to ensure that people who don't want to partake aren't exposed to it.

So--have strip clubs, but keep them out by the airport.

What if there's no airport nearby? Just kidding... :)

Social conservatives are going more and more WITH the religious right. This is a big part of the shift in places like Mississippi toward "red state" status. The traditional "do gooder" base of church-goers (black or white, but generally social activist) have decided they'd rather not side with the Democrats on things like abortion and gays. So a preacher from a small town black Baptist church would have found himself voting for Kennedy while King was alive because that represented "liberation" for blacks; but then for Reagan afterwards because that represented "family values" rather than all that airy-fairy San Francisco shit about destroying traditional mores that the Pelosi-crats are seen to represent.

That's how THEY would stereotypically see it. Not that I'm advocating for or against that perception.

MS's been solidly Republican since at least 1980 BTW.

Mr. Munchie, I think if you describd the beliefs of 3 political parties - Republicans, Democrats, and Libertarians - without nameing them and asked people which set of beliefs they most agreed with, I think more Americans would choose the Libertarian beliefs than either of the other two.

Book Guy, you keep hammering away at the religious right a if that includes all people of religion. Keep in mind that the largest religion in the US is Roman Catholic, and the majority of Roman Catholics vote Democratic. As do most Jewish people. Religious beliefs do not automatically equate to conservtive political views, it's much more complex than that.

FONDL, I think that's exactly right. The hard part is getting people to realize it themselves.