Naming names in an all extras place

I’m still not naming names. The extras performed are still illegal - and there is no reason to endanger a dancer’s employment by giving out a name.

We think that managers know extras are common in known extras clubs - but what if we are incorrect? What if a manager reads a review that names a dancer - and she gets fired? I don’t want to take that chance.

What about those idiots who read a review that names a dancer, and provides prices and acts - and this fool goes to the club tells the dancer JoeBlow123 from TUSCL got a BBBJCIM for $125 - and he’s not paying more - or he will tell the manager?

There is little good to come from naming names and acts - and I won’t do it.

No. Don't connect dancers by name to extras or OTC in reviews, even if it's a club where "everyone knows" what's going on (which might be true for the club, but not for the individual dancers). TUSCL members with access to these reviews can include club managers, staff, and other dancers, who can use that information against a dancer [1]. It's also not impossible for local reporters to access these reviews to find incriminating quotes for their expose piece [2].

Also, what a dancer does for you might not match what she does for other guys (and that's her choice). Think about this from the dancer's POV. Better yet, try this... get some extras from a dancer and then tell her that you're going to write an online review where you name her and everything she just did. Report back to us regarding her reaction and how many stitches you needed as a result.

Just be happy with what you got, but don't spell it out in granular detail in the review, and definitely don't use names. If you want to get more details, then approach the reviewer via PM and let them decide if they want to share more.

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[1] It used to be that all reviews were blocked unless you were VIP. That's not true anymore. Any user can access a few reviews per day. All you need is a profile here. So, it's incredibly easy for managers, dancers, etc., to snoop on each other via the reviews.

[2] This actually happened in Providence, RI, when Cheaters got busted for the last time. We got to watch incredibly explicit reviews (with blacked out bits) for several of the clubs scroll across the screen on the evening news. It wasn't great.

I’ve worked in a club where extras were common, and constantly found customers who expected extras by default, and there were dancers badmouthing extras in the locker room. I’ve met plenty of dancers who have participated in activities (or at least I strongly suspected they did) but nonetheless badmouth it.

Post-Covid things have changed things after a lot of the old guard of dancers has retired and a lot of us remaining are more…idk for lack of a better term more “woke?” And by woke, I mean it’s become less acceptable to vilify extras and full service sex work. Dancers used to commonly make “extras girls are nasty and ruining the industry” rants for a long time and the replies could all be unanimous circle jerk agreeing but it’s become more common in the past 2-3 years for there to be a LOT more backlash if anybody uses shaming language now.

Times are changing, BUT I don’t think the viewpoints of how strippers who post on social media platforms to each other have quite made it to every dancer actually working in a titty bar.

To be honest, if some dancer complained about getting outed in

What’s the point, it’s a stupid idea to put dancers names out there, How about a little discretion or maybe a kick in the nuts.

Pretty sure that almost none of the xtras ladies would want their name (stage or real) linked to their actvities; that's really the only thing that matters here. Respect the provider.

There have been a couple of occasions here where a PL read a detailed TUSCL review that named a dancer, then went to the club and asked for the same service from the same dancer. When the dancer said "No.", the frustrated PL thought it was a good idea to show the dancer the TUSCL review as a way to convince her to provide him the same service. I'm sure that wasn't a great moment for the dancer on a number of levels.

In one instance, how we found out about this is that the dancer IDed the guy who wrote the explicit review and cut him off from all future services. She also let the other dancers in the club know what he did. So, he had to go find another club (at least for a while). Anyway, the reviewer posted an angry "Fuck you to the guy who did this" discussion. The response from most guys here was "Hey, you made your bed, etc., etc., etc." That was the correct response.

So, if respecting a dancer's privacy isn't a thing that motivates you, then there's also a chance that it will affect you directly, and not in a good way.

Oops accidentally posted too early. If some dancer complained about getting outed, I think tuscl should be required reading because holy cow idk I’ve noticed stronger attitudes of reviewers making a BIGGER deal about naming dancers and the lineups of what days they work in the “known” clubs than the clubs not as known for activities. Like reviewers can’t just be happy with the idea of “hey, the chances of me getting a blow job are higher than normal” and be happy about it. Nah, let’s try to make it easier to get these women who go the extra mile for an extra good time to get stalked and possibly even murdered.

Speaking of clubs that tend to attract reviewers that do that, shout out to the dancer once who wrote up a tome once that extras are unacceptable anywhere, no matter what club one works at. But then on the very same day posted elsewhere praising Club Desire as an amazing club to work at.

If the lessening taboos makes its way to congress and full service sex work is completely legal, then naming specific acts may not be a big deal. But until then…there is a whole can of worms that naming extras girls can cause, even in clubs that are known for that.

Still not doing it. Not even in the south Florida clubs where its common.

Others have covered reasons why its potentially harmful, I'll chime in to say why its potentially useless. YMMV. Around here at least, what a girl is willing to do with you is largely dependent on how she feels about you, her mood that day, her financial situation, the alignment of the planets and stars, the phase of the moon, etc. I don't make a habit of it, but I recently exchanged some of that type of info via PM and the member who gave me the info had a very different experience than I did.

There's also the matter of perspective and preferences. We know opinions vary wildly on what constitutes hot, I'm quite sure the same is true of what we like to do. Just cause one customer found the girl to be fantastic, doesn't mean the next one will.

And finally, I'll throw out the whole "do unto others" thing. Would you want them posting reviews online with your physical description, notes about your tattoo's and distinguishing features, etc, and talking about what you did or didn't do, what you asked for, how much you paid, etc? Karma's an unrelenting bitch with an eternal memory.

First rule of Fight Club….

Yeah I would still just keep to pms between trusted members. 623 obviously shouldn’t have any issues there. If some nobody pms me, they are not getting much back.

I think even if she openly offers to you, that may not be the case with everyone trying to get in on the action.

At the end of the day it’s an on the down low I’ll scratch your back, you scratch mine kind of deal, ain’t nobody saw nothing nowhere. I’ll do for you, you do for me m.youtube.com

On this board or in private I don't name names. I wouldn't do it in Junior High, High School or college as a kid so why would I be a classless douche as an adult? If you name names, on this board, you deserve to be harmed.

The “trusted member” thing Muddy mentioned is important. I’ve gotten a few queries from people who are relatively new or who have made few to no postings. I’m sorry, but I’m not answering those.

Nope. The original post is stupid, trolling, or both. Never connect a name to extras. It is nobody's best interests to do so.

^ The OP has been on TUSCL for nearly 20 years and has over 200 reviews. So, not a troll. I don't agree with his logic and arguments on this, but not a troll.

When I first started using TUSCL the reviews got a lot deeper into specifics and names, but there was already a trend away from that. If you look back further than that, it was even more common to name dancers, talk about exactly what they did, and include prices. I think that some of the users here with a longer history are accustomed to seeing and posting more sordid details.

I have participated in forums where names and details were included in reviews (anyone from Michigan recall Twosheds?) and I will admit that such information was useful in prioritizing dancers for private fun, with the understanding that YMMV. However, TUSCL has convinced me the disadvantages of naming names far outweigh the advantages so I haven't used names in many years.

However there is one exception that most of us agree on: If the dancer is clearly a ROB, I will use her stage name as a public service warning to other customers.

If you use TUSCL to pick clubs, just consider it your duty to report (by name) the ROBs. Or the ones who tell you it will be so much better if you pay more, but you don´t find it better. We can then avoid those dancers. And have some trust in what the other ones tell us about their boundaries.

Besides the obvious reasons, I have another. It's called selfishness. Why should I share my gold with some one else?

If I were a club owner of an extras club, I would not appreciate Internet searchable reviews documenting named dancers performing illegal acts.

If I were a boyfriend or husband, I may live in denial world and not want to read about my wife swallowing your cum while your brother-in-law was pounding her in the ass.

One issue I have not seen is you assume that if you get extra's from a dancer, she will give extra's to everyone. Not true, each dancer has a choice and may choose to give extra's to you, but when I go in she doesn't like my look and gives me a hard pass. Another issue is the moment, I've got extra's from a dancer one time and it was beyond the best, then the next time, it was average at best. You have to hit a time where you are both feeling it for the truly outstanding. Not saying many dancers aren't great even when not feeling it, but, you get the idea. Posting names is a non-starter for me. it provides ZERO value and can put a dancer you are trying to "Compliment??" in tough spot.

i would never name a dancer since club manager do read reviews. one of the clubs i went too in Mass, (since closed) started watching dancers after they were named in these listing and other places. Dancers that do not do extras don't like those dancers that do as guys want then to do extras too

You're reviewing the club. Not individual dancers or hookers. It's wrong to name any dancer without their knowledge for whatever reason. Look at the number of weirdos on here. Many of whom are extremely vindictive and creepy.

^ finally you admit who you are.

Don't name names. Period. End of discussion.

What counts as an extra in this context?

@drew, that's one of the eternal debate topics here, what is an "extra." I define it as any attempt to generate orgasm that the law might frown upon.

Elsewhere, Ishmael had a great thread on why not to connect girls by name to specific extras. Legal trouble wasn't even the biggest part of the argument, it was how it affects the dancer's relationship with the other girls, management, and customers (the latter potentially becoming dangerous).

Drew asked "What counts as an extra in this context?"

There's no right answer, but there are infinite subjective answers that can be endlessly debated (as we've seen). It's also where a lot of PLs like to negotiate against any potential backlash along the lines of "Around here a CBJ isn't considered an extra!"

So, here's what I do (and anyone can feel free to poke holes in this approach). If the club is known for extras or high mileage, I note that in the review (but I always give a YMMV caveat). If I spend time with a particular dancer, I'll note who it is and then keep in very general. Along the lines of, "We went to VIP and had a great time." Or, "I did a few lap dances with her and decided that she wasn't for me."

[And, I'll quickly note that if I say I had a great time with a dancer, that doesn't automatically mean that I got extras. There are dancers that are a lot of fun for me but have clear and solid limits.]

In terms of guys complaining about how that doesn't help them, I think that's horseshit. You can go to the club and talk to the dancer. It's been said here a million times (and it remains true) that you can just ask dancers for what you want and it won't shock them or get you thrown out of the club. They will tell you what's available and what isn't. At that point, the customer can either go for it or take a pass.

Guys need to get over this idea that going to a strip club is like ordering an incredibly expensive sandwich at Subway.

@Tetra: it occurs to me that the definition of "extra" varies inter and intra LE, club owner, dancer, PL, and tuscler. In Seattle, a lap dance without boob + ass grabbing, and full ass grind on your lap i.e. clothed dick, would be an air dance as well as a notable exception. Maybe we have progressed to the point where these clearly illegal and therefore concerning to LE and club owner acts are so run of the mill that associating a dancers stage name with them would not be crossing what I think I will start calling "the tuscl line"... connecting a dancer's stage name to notable extras. Then again, maybe not.

All interesting arguments but they seem to ignore the fact that this sites prime purpose is to share information.

Just because I said that linking names in all extras clubs is OK with me does not mean I would do that, I think its classless and in 200+ reviews I don't think you will find any examples of me doing that unless the girl is a complete ROB. Maybe if she works in Germany or Tijuana but even then I doubt it.

I just don't think it is a good enough reason to reject a review.

If a new dancer approaches me with "I'll blow you for $xx" I think she has already taken the first step in that being public knowledge. So I would not have any trouble if that knowledge became a bit more public. It might also help me choose a club in a strange town if I had a bit of a price list as a starting place. Reviewers who report "left happy for $500" or "had a good time for $300" are not providing any information. We all know there are plenty of PLs that will spend a grand and bring roses the next night for the hint of a tug job.

As far as other PLs arriving with review in hand saying "I want what Bill got", I don't know a dancer who has danced for more than a week who doesn't get this anyways. And any dancers who have been around for anytime at all will says "Bill is a liar and you need to go fuck yourself". Again, we are talking about all extras clubs here.

Knowing who does the best whatever and if the going rate is $500 or $100 is information I can use when I have one or two nights in a city. Plus I don't then have to visit 4 other clubs to find the overachievers.

An extra is anything entailing more than the legal definition of a lap dance. Which varies by state and local laws and ordinances ordinances.

623 said "All interesting arguments but they seem to ignore the fact that this sites prime purpose is to share information."

I don't think we're ignoring that. You can share a lot of information without connecting dancers to extras. And reviews that avoid doing that are still useful to PLs (in my opinion).

"I just don't think it is a good enough reason to reject a review."

We disagree on this. I'll always reject a review that connects a dancer by name to extras. Even in notorious extra clubs. Others might disagree with me, but that's my stance.

"If a new dancer approaches me with 'I'll blow you for $xx' I think she has already taken the first step in that being public knowledge."

If she announces that from the stage, then I agree. If she says that to you at the bar in a private conversation, then I disagree. But really, whether or not I agree is irrelevant. It's the dancer who has more at stake. So, ask the dancer if you can put it in an online review along with her name. Let us know how that works out...

"It might also help me choose a club in a strange town if I had a bit of a price list as a starting place. Reviewers who report "left happy for $500" or "had a good time for $300" are not providing any information"

I'm less bothered by this, but I still won't do it. There's a place in the review where the customer can put down the range for what they spent. You can also simply note "The dancers here are expensive." or state that a particular dancer charges premium prices. I don't like posting dollar amounts especially when connecting them to dancers. It paints them into a corner potentially.

"Knowing who does the best whatever and if the going rate is $500 or $100 is information I can use when I have one or two nights in a city."

You've been here for 20 years and posted over 200 reviews. I suspect that if you reach out to a reviewer via PM and ask for a little more information, you'll probably get it. Take advantage of the perks offered by your considerable seniority.

So, yeah, I think it's safe to say that we disagree somewhat here, and that's fine. We're both going to do what we do.

Also a lewd or indecent act or solicitation and prostitution includes anything that gets you off. Not just sex.

Op basically wants tuscl to be a detailed review site for illicit brothels and prostitutes. It sort of is but what op is asking for will just get the site shut down

To icee: OK, genius, since the site has become much tamer given the PC policing why wasn’t it shut down long ago when it was so much more raunchy. I would think the inclusion of a section for personal ads exposes the site to critics far more than made up reviews with made up names by anonymous users.

All I’m saying is that the site doesn’t need to be so neutered simply because there’s a few who are too politically correct to be completely honest in reviews. Probably fearful that the blow job queen will have her feelings hurt.

^lol. You're replying to Icee as if the shithead was doing anything other than trolling you. Thats even less classy than naming names. Men do the right thing because it's the right thing and if you look it that way then you realize that what others do doesn't matter. Just because a dancer is willing to make it public knowledge, which is her business and not yours, you think its ok? You're not providing information by the way, just a bit of impotent bragging to people who don't give a shit.

In my heart I’m totally with OP 623: I live in an area with mostly brothel clubs and generic reviews are mostly worthless. Most of the posted objections are just pure speculation & pearl clutching. But I agree with that the world is filled with morons & bad things sometimes follow if you link names & acts & prices. So why risk it. If everyone knows it’s a brothel club, just say “Flopsie was a good time for a reasonable tip” & anyone who knows their shit can figure it out & negotiate their own reasonable tip. But hell yeah for ROBs & liars, name names & details.

^well said.

Long before such sites/forums, a man had to actually go out there and hunt for his pussy. The toss up was apart of the excitement, the journey. A stripper clubber rites of passage per se. And now we have the likes of you, asking for the pussy.

🗣️ BE A REAL MAN

Would you guys be okay if there was an online lost of tricks with your real names and or descriptions. Rating you by how cheap or weird you are?

Tricks are already discussed among dancers, and nobody really knows dancers real names, nor do dancers always know real names so thats not relevant Its more likely that dancers know real first names than the reverse...

Here's the problem with The TUSCL Line, aka the "don't connect dancer names with extras" rule.

CMI says extras are "subjective", "there's no right answer", etc. Vague, but relevant to my point.

Tetra says extras are "any attempt to generate orgasm that the law might frown upon." Not surprising coming from a seasoned PL.

Icee says extras are "anything entailing more than the legal definition of a lap dance". Unsurprising from a woke wannbe pimp whose main hobby is shit stirring on a strip club board.

Fair enough, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But if we were to apply these standards to the rule, we would be potentially withholding names on any act ranging from violating the 3-foot rule (icee), to handjobs (tetra), to anything/nothing (cmi).

Like obscenity, I guess you know it when you see it. If "extras" are not definable, then a rule about connecting extras isn't super useful.

The consensus is that am extra is anything more than what is legally allowed in the club so the trick can get off. It's not complex.

"Here's the problem with The TUSCL Line, aka the "don't connect dancer names with extras" rule."

Part of the issue, and it's not limited to TUSCL, is the tendency of people to want to have a shorthand for everything. Not every possible thing that might be seen at the club has to have a mutually exclusive label attached to it. I don't really concern myself with which act goes in the extras bin or not. At a certain club in Phoenix (before the dark times) every dancer I took for a dance had her hand in my pants by the second song. Nothing "extra" paid. It's just what they did without being asked. And that was within the first hour on my first and only visit to the club.

Obviously it wasn't because of me being some super customer that it happened. I had a pulse, a hard-on, and a fistful of dollars. And for one bitchy, yet beautiful, dancer I had a few dollars more. But none of that went in my review. Plus Chili Palmer told me to get my eyes checked because my idea of a 10 wasn't his lol...If I think putting whatever detail next to a dancer's name might get her jammed up at work, I don't write it.

I don't want dancer names in ANY review. I don't care if they are talking extras or not. Review the club, not the girl.

I agree with Warrior - and BHarlem. They both make good points.

Not naming dancers in any review is a good practice.

@warrior, it’s an interesting point. Since “air dance” is generally equated to “bad dance”, I guess that a dancer wouldn’t want to be associated with that act either, further narrowing the set. Perhaps there is literally no dance activity that should be tied to a dancers names.

There has to be some review of the dancers. No one goes to the Capitol Grille and reviews the decor and service....

Just responding to the “I want to name dancers to help them out.” They don’t need your help. If they did, they’d ask for it. I’ve never seen a super hot or super extras friendly girl lacking for attention. They’re doing just fine. Be honest in your reviews. No need to write an expose’.

Punk move! Bottom line!

@JM I think that would depend on the dancer. Quite a few dancers put their photos on this site, presumably to promote themselves. Why wouldn't they also want mentions from happy customers, as a form of promotion?

Don't be like Elaine. youtu.be

You are literally endangering some extras dancers by naming them. It's not only about LE (plus they can't do anything even if they read this crap - they have to see it for themselves). The dancer's privacy, identity (as in who she claims to be with the other girls no extras or extras), her job, and her safety at risk. Just give a general description and leave names of girls to PMs. Some extras girls have pimps who require them to charge a minimum and if they find out she's not, she may end up beaten or dead. Would you want to be named or we write reviews about customers? No. So PLEASE don't name the women who service you. We do not like to be outed publicly in reviews and our jobs and safety are on the line.

You're also not helping by naming those of us who provide services. Even if you think you are, you're not. Some girls get their asses beat by other dancers over what's said in reviews. Just, please, don't.

@ilbbaicnl - that’s their decision. Not yours. They control the medium and the message. If they want you to do it, they’ll ask. If you really can’t stop yourself, ask them before you do it and respect their answer.

Incidentally, I think 623’s question is a good one. What passes for an acceptable review is a sliding scale for me based on the type of club. Personally, I wouldn’t name names, but what I write and what I approve in reviews of extras clubs/cities is a lot more detailed. There’s a club I’ve been to that gets called out on here as a known non-extras club. People write that it’s impossible to get extras. They are 100% wrong about the frequency and the extent of what’s available. I’d never correct them.

I'd be interested in reading what Founder thinks about this. Many negatives have been listed above and just about everyone who has commented above and posts regularly is against naming dancers - especially when it comes to extras.

We definitely don't want the world knowing our business and for how much that businesses transaction cost. I haven't met a single extras dancer who has enjoyed being named on here.

^ I would as well. For the most part, founder has left it to the community to push things one way or another.

In the review guidelines there is only this on the topic: "Be honest. You can go into explicit detail of the private dances. Just be careful with names if you think it may get someone in trouble."

There's a lot of room for interpretation in there, starting with them being 'guidelines' and not 'rules' or 'requirements'. And also there's the reality that a lot of customers don't actually think it could get a dancer in trouble. Quite the opposite, they believe that they're helping the dancer.

The number of reviews that I have rejected for being too explicit (dancer name) is relatively small. On USAsexguie it is expected and they even post photos of sex acts during gang bangs. I read it but am not registered to post and have no desire to.

I get that customers don't see it from our point of view a all, but many girls have gotten into trouble with management, spouses, pimps, and other dancers because of these reviews.i also understand that it has zero affect on the customer if they name dancers or not, but they're screwing with someone's job when they do.

I really would like to see Founder put a large warning in red or bold black letters to leave dancer names out from now on on the page where reviews are written. Or have it as a checkbox the reviewer HAS to check before the review can be put up for peer voting.

Dancers don't like this site because of trolls, SJG and a few others, and being named in reviews. This is a often talked about in private dancers groups on various websites.

Right now, the only guideline that is enforced as a rule regards plagiarism. If a review is copied from another site or TUSCL user, then the review and profile get deleted immediately.

It's really not complicated the folks that want dancers names are generally lazy and don't care about anyone except themselves, it's not a complicated issue folks, if you are being told by dancers that naming them is harmful, so stop the bullshit, if you don't care, be upfront about it, stop making sad ass excuses or saying he does it too. I will continue to down vote any review that names dancers and connects them to specific activities.

I have no issue with members speaking in impossible to crack code. One dancer I recently saw we sung a Billy Joel tune to me in VIP it went like…

🎶Well we’re living here in Allentown, do do do doooo, And they're closing all the factories down Out in Bethlehem they're killing time Filling out forms Standing in line Well our fathers fought the Second World War Spent their weekends on the Jersey Shore Met our mothers in the USO Asked them to dance Danced with them slow And we're living here in Allentown

But the restlessness was handed down And it's getting very hard to staaaaaay

Well we're waiting here in Allentown For the Pennsylvania we never found For the promises our teachers gave If we worked hard If we behaved So the graduations hang on the wall But they never really helped us at all No they never taught us what was real Iron and coke And chromium steel And we're waiting here in Allentown

But they've taken all the coal from the ground And the union people crawled away

Every child had a pretty good shot To get at least as far as their old man got But something happened on the way to that place They threw an American flag in our faaaaaaacceeee

Well I'm living here in Allentown And it's hard to keep a good man down But I won't be getting up todaaaaaaaay

And it's getting very hard to stay And we're living here in Allentown 🎶

And then I splooged all over her boobs. See that right there is fine, no harm no foul. Keeps everyone off our scent.

BubbleYum: figure it out. The majority of men here hate women. Its why they disrespect marriage. They seriously think that they are better than the dancers, when the simple fact is that both sides of the same transaction are equal. Good or bad is up to the individual, but the drug dealer is no better than the drug user and the provider of paid sex is no worse than the payor. Of course, they disagree and believe it isn't true but as Paul Simon sang: "a man hears what he wats to hear and disregards the rest". It never ceases to amaze me how similar a dancer/escort/model etc job is to mine.

25 ... I agree that it's not complicated, but it is controversial (at least it is here...). Especially since it keeps coming up, and there's a good number of users who still want reviews that tie names to extras. And, many of these users have a longer history here with ties to when this very common in reviews.

And, to a limit, I'm sympathetic to 623's argument that if you're in a town for a night and you have four potential clubs, then a more detailed review increases the chances of going to a good club within that limited time frame. I think that the bridge a lot of users still need to cross is understanding that connecting names to extras has the real potential to affect a person's employment and quality of life, and not in a good way.

^ Still no guarantee that the review was honest, true or informational. No guarantee that the extras girl gives them extras anyway. My cf at desires is one of those "limits" girls, that people like to bitch about. I just smile and shake my head.

Founder’s actions have been pretty clear. He lets the members police themselves, both on the discussion board and review approval. We need to understand, embrace and own that. It’s on us.

That said, he has intervened in limited, extreme circumstances. I remember when a user created 5 or so accounts and got a bunch of fake, satire reviews approved. I think the theme was that they were robbing the club? Founder banned those accounts pretty quickly, presumably because they compromised the integrity of the reviews, which he’s always said is the foundation of the site. He banned the guy who posted the shit about infecting dancers with HIV. He sterilized the idiotic thread that doxxed juice by linking his real life obituary. Most relevant to this discussion, I mistakenly approved a review I meant to reject by hitting the wrong button. It was clear from my comment that I meant to reject as I said something like “remove the name of the girl who did ______ extra and I’ll approve.” My vote was the tiebreaker in a 4-3 approval. I pm’ed founder about my mistake and he pretty quickly edited the review to remove the dancer’s name.

This is on us to fix and only bring in founder in extreme circumstances.

^ Simple fix Ish, if the guy is in town for a night, not my problem, let him take his chances with an escort or service, aside from that if he doesn't get his rocks off he'll live, a heads up that a certain club might get him what he wants, should be enough, anything more than that is just indulging a lazy freeloader.

To me the best part of an out of town club is what might happen. I want to be surprised. I want something unplanned. Pre herpes/aids the best part of being single was bar hopping and trying to pick up women. It made college fucking awesome. We'd crank down a 6 pack watching the Bruins; I'd look at my roommate and say: "just think, in 3 hours I'll be fucking someone I haven't even met yet" and out we'd go. Win. lose or draw, it was always exciting.

Jimmy said "He banned the guy who posted the shit about infecting dancers with HIV."

No, actually, he didn't (unless we're talking about different guys). But I believe you got everything else correct.

You’re probably right. I was going from my (poor) memory.

Naming dancers for any reason seems nefarious to a degree. Misogynistic. That's the vibe given off by those who do it

BubbleYum raised a good point. Strip clubs would probably go out of business without PLs with SOs who are going on the down low. We expect strippers to assume we don't want the world to know we're up in the club. So we should assume strippers don't want us to let their SOs/friends/family know if they do extras.

The risks for a dancer naming a customer don’t seem to be the same as a customer naming a dancer unless the name is unique. Even if a customer provided a real name, what would matter if a dancer posted online that Johnny was cheap or creepy or ugly? There could be hundreds of Johnnys at the club.

Maybe a middle ground would be to put premium reviews behind a paywall and those who pay a premium access fee can see them. You get more, you pay more. Perhaps something along the lines of rubmaps where you can view address, phone, hours for free but then pay for reviews. That way not just anyone can stumble on possibly sensitive information.

I think Elon Musk just proved putting a modest pay wall to secure info is a stupid.

Then none of you would have a problem with your tuscl info being passed on to clubs and or dancers when you try to talk whit about or shame a dancer or out her as a hoe. I might start doing that coz it's okay right

If your up for naming names. Tell us your real name.

Wtf is wrong with you?!? Are you intentionally trying to get girls fired / arrested / raped in a parking lot!?

In the first place the names used at clubs are not their real name.

In the second place my original question was basically “why did we start rejecting reviews strictly because they include names or explicit details?”

The answer I got was that the site is starting to get “woke” or influenced by political correctness. Maybe that is a good thing IDK. Makes it less useful thou.

I will continue NOT naming dancers in my reviews, as I have always done. Mostly cause I don’t usually remember names from clubs anyways. Because like I said. They are all made up names.

I will also continue to NOT reject a review (for an already known extras place) just because it has a name in it or it is explicit, as long as it has some useful info. News flash; a lot of the explicit stuff is made up also.

So... I'm pretty sure everyone here knows Bambi's real name isn't Bambi...

I don't think the answer you got was that the site is getting "woke" or PC. The answer you got is that connecting dancers by name to extras can have negative consequences for the dancer even in places known for providing extras. Not wanting to punish dancers for the fun we have isn't "woke".

No one can control how you judge reviews. But you came here looking for the reasoning on this, and you got it. And, I'll add that you got it from some of the absolutely least woke or PC people on the site.

^ It’s pretty funny how folks here give a straight up answer but some folks aren’t getting the answer they want so they’ll just ignore what’s said and just refuse to acknowledge reality.

I wasn’t suggesting that naming extras producing dancers should be mandatory. I was only asking why that practice was becoming so vilified. I don’t do it, mostly because of what shadowcat said was his reason, but I also don’t think it’s wrong.

I do think there is far more danger to a girls safety or reputation if cousin Felix comes thru the club door unexpectedly. Felix knows her real name and probably her grandma too. But she took that chance when she started dancing.

There are nut jobs everywhere and every dancer has learned to deal with them, reviews aren’t going to noticeably move the needle on how many times in a week they get approached by wackos. Again part of the territory of being a dancer.

Dancers are not fragile little flowers that need protected and our little community of PLs doesn’t have the influence or size that many posters here seem to think it has.

Being 'woke' or whatever literally has nothing to do with it. As stated a plethora of times, it's about dancer SAFETY and PRIVACY. Not about being woke.

At a certain point, we're going to have to accept that we're not in complete agreement. And that's fine.

Bubbleyum makes some good points about safety issues. I have never really thought about it like that. However, I think it’s a douchebag thing to do. I try not to be a douchebag. Therefore, I don’t do it.

I'm thinking of writing reviews warning dancers about certain regulars at clubs. Naming them and exposing their weird hangup and fetishes. Like fingerings Phil at.... or Tom Lane who gets off on biting nipples then leaving ..... when the girls scream. Might go through some reviews here and give dancers the tuscl handles of guys naming hoes and accusing girls of being robs. To watch out for them.

That's fair right

I think that would be great. Tell (insert dancer fake name) that (insert tuscl fake name) is good/bad (insert your opinion here).

That makes sense.

At least you made me smile.

@Bubble - "As stated a plethora of times, it's about dancer SAFETY and PRIVACY. "

Please quote a real life example or two of how a review created these issues. If your in a profession that has a boss (pimp or manager) that will react to a made up online review badly I would say that scary situation is not because of a review. I can quote examples of dancers that get more business by being mentioned in a review, not a lot more but some.

There is far, far more privacy risk issues presented by the potential of having someone walk thru the club door who knows you in real life than someone writing about your FAKE name in a quite possibly FAKE review. As far as security, if there wasn't already inherent danger I might agree, but paying a bouncer to walk you to your car already indicates that the chosen job comes with built in risk, with or without reviews.

"In the first place the names used at clubs are not their real name."

I don't want to drag the thread out, but this not until universally true. Your core point was made without having to bring in other angles. More than one club where I've been a regular multiple girls went by their real names. My third ATF just brought out her license one day and asked me what I thought of her photo, and her social media all still has her full name on it.

If it was "today" and not over a decade ago would that still be the case? That's open for debate. But some dancers and staff are still pretty quick to share their real names, and in a couple of clubs I've forgotten a dancer or waitress stage name because I don't use it.

Then there's the social fumble. At a club where I was talking with a dancer on her first day, some other random dancer sat down at the table to check on how and called said her real multiple times. After the oblivious one walked off I said something about pretending I didn't hear that, and she just shrugged it off and said it was ok to use her real name. Didn't seem staged. I can usually spot that.

No wait. Lol. I forgot that a dancer I pretend never existed dances under her real name. And that's in the last year or so.

If I had a great time with a dancer, good conversation and a hot, sensual, legal lapper, I don’t see the problem with naming her. That shouldn’t get her a beat down in the locker room, should it? But naming a dancer that gave extras doesn’t help anybody. I once had a dancer that was quitting the business and I caught her on her last night. She had nice street clothes and agreed to one last dance. She grinded on me until she came and then we cuddled. I could have blabbed about it, but I preferred to keep her name to myself. And I don’t know what category that fits into. It is not an “extra,” but I sure liked it.