Regulars in Love

Don't know what to make of this post other than it sounds like he is describing FONDL and a few others.

And the moral of the story is...?!?!?!

Gee, 2for20, how original. But didn't you forget to capitalize some of your remarks?

Hey, maybe I'll get to use the ignore button twice today.

Fondl, why are you mad at me, I never even mentioned you.

Are you kidding? RL's nick would be 5DollarLapDancesForever.

WOW. 2for20DollarsLapDancesForever - I take it you're somewhat steamed up about those type customers. Well pal, I'm in the same boat as you! I have my regular favorite dancers, and they too get taken away with the once a year gent visitor who splashes all kind of money on them. But, I shake it off and watch those dancers make the money they deserve, from him. I know, soon as he leaves, they'll be back at my table much happier.

I don't believe that many, if any, of us here are the BIG SPENDERS 2f20 described. But, I believe we ALL are mature enough to realize that this is part of the SC business, that can be tolerated.

Yeah, these type gents may seem pathetic, but there in the club to get some attention and company from beautiful ladies. Their mouths may overflow with BS, but the dancers come back with SS. It's all a game for both parties.

2for20, sorry if I misinterpreted your comments, but it sounded to me like you were referring to everyone here. I don't think any of us regular posters here qualify as Regulars in Love. In lust maybe but not in love.

2 fer: You sound like a person that has been there. Got burned, Huh?

ATFs deals can be much better than what you've described. I'm not sure who you are directing your comments at. For every person posting in here, my guess is there's maybe a 100 others reading these threads, so you comments will not be wasted. However, to be fair, I doubt there's too many posters in here that are not fully aware of the entire PL and RIL phenomenon and they would be very very aware of being played by a stripper. In fact, there's probably just in the last 3 months 200 to 300 total posts (in 4 or different 5 threads) hitting directly on the entire "nice guy" issue.

Does the exchange of saliva count as an exchange of fluids?

Comments were not directed at any individual or group. Yes, Shadowcat I've fallen for a few in my day.

Actually 2for20 your post isn't bad, because one always needs a wakeup call with these dancers. Its sort of like those of us who physically workout, running or swimming or whatever, and for example to psych ourselves up before running in a snowstormw or bad weather we might say might (out loud) refer to ourselves as "out of shape pieces of garbage" - sort of like the marine corp approach. "Turmoil" in fact is a good word to describe some of these strippers and their lives, as so many tend to be classic drama junkies and they live off this stuff. Some of more top shelf type dancers have spent their entire late teen and adult lives using their looks to manipulate men in both their personal lives and their jobs - so one has to keep this in mind at every moment when interactiong with them

2forwhatever,

Of course your comments were directed at a group!!! IE:"You guys..."

After re-reading "2for20's" post, to be fair he did entitle his post "Regulars in Love" so even when its followed by "you guys" he's only referring to this small RIL subgroup. There are not that many RILs on this forum posting, and there are actually more posting on the pink site every few weeks. However odds are high new-to-strip club type RILs are reading these posts.

That's interesting. You would think that with more education (about strip clubs) people are would be less likely to fall into the PL/RIL trap.

"You would think that with more education (about strip clubs) people are would be less likely to fall into the PL/RIL trap.

Much less, but they have to go to strip clubs for awhile before some figure it out

The pink site is a (no-charge) very high volume site, probably 100 times the posts of this site, and by definition that's means many new to SC type customers. Looking at some of the questions (e.g HockeyBobby being a classic) its look like they don't read many of the other posts - before making their first posts

"Necessity is the mother of invention" is an old saying and very true and applicable to all sorts of things (or the inverse), and I increasingly believe that some strippers due to economic necessity to reel in and hold onto regulars are engaging in this very high level type of regular SS -sometimes bringing it up to a level of what I've described as being a type of Super Stripper Shit - and that will often be hard for a new patrons to detect

Yeah, and what a trap it is. The bait incredibly tempting. Even experienced clubbers can fall victim. I did. I thought she was THE one, for a while. Even now, I'm not totally convinced otherwise, even with signs telling me otherwise.

With the help of another dancer, I'm slowly climbing out of the trap. Let me tell you, the walls tend to be VERY slippery. I just talked to Miss ATF today, and the bait is still alluring.

DougS- based upon your statements in other posts, you put out the faithful nice guy vibe for ATF #1

You'll note this paragraph (xdamage on pink/blue site) I posted last month on the "nice guys" threat that really hits its the issue on the nail

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But I suppose the main thing is not really understanding women, seeing only the superficial behaviors and playing to them. I guess you could think of it like being a good pet. Act extra nice and you get petted for being nice. So you think, okay I'll go on being extremely nice and agreeable, and do "nice" things.

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Strange how so many women consciously BELIEVE they want committed men, but not only does such faithfulness and devotion often turn them off along with the "chemistry", the unfaithful "horndog" actually gets the chemistry flowing big time for these same women. I realize many do not believe this, but if they had the opportunity to put it to use, they would understand its 100% the truth, as counterintuitive as it sounds.

Let's make one thing clear, just because a dancer might be an ATF to a regular, doesn't mean love is involved, and likely isn't.

David: I think some game theory might be at play. If getting laid was just as easy as asking women what they liked then faking it, lots of guys with bad genes could have reproduced and we would still be swinging from trees. So to guarantee that women couldn't just throw the game so easily (especially when elaboare speech came on the scene), nature made women evolve to actually believe the untrue things they say about what they want.

I thought 2for20's post was interesting. Never had that conversation with any dancer. I don't know why someone would want to talk about a dancers boyfriend. Hundreds of dollars on a single dancer? Must be some rich guys somewhere. About the longest I remember talking to a single dancer was about 3 or 4 hours in one club. I spent a total of 30 dollars on her but she did 3 table dances. She did one every hour or she said she would get in trouble with the manager. I thought she wanted to hook up but at that time I was determined I wasn't going to go out with any more dancers.

Oh, just remembered, same dancer I talked about above, a year or two ago, I did ask her how things were going. She said she was going steady with a boyfriend she had for about 6 months. I said I was glad everything was going well with her and then got some table dances from her. She's a very nice dancer and still looks good even though she's as old as me. She's into paintings. On one slow night she asked if I was interested in seeing her paintings, after saying yes, she brought some out and showed them to me. Other dancers in other clubs, the dancer may just want to talk for awhile with me. I don't pay her anything for that. Never have. I'm not sure what clubs these things happen in where dancers get paid hundreds of dollars just for talking.

IrishContractor: You say that you are not pursuing her, but it certainly sounds like you are interested in her. You said you asked her out via email, but she never answered... however you flat-out asked her for sex and she gave it to you in the club (ITC). I think you ought to ask her out again, only in person and get her reaction. I'm betting that she will go out with you. Does it mean there's relationship potential? Who knows! I DO think you have potential to getting to know her better and I think it's safe to assume that if she agrees to OTC (meet outside the club), you will REALLY enjoy yourself...

Is she trying to keep you as a customer? Of course! Was she just horny that day? Probably... but have you repeated the sex? Still getting extras? Maybe she's just horny every day. Yes, maybe she just wants to have leisure sex... (which may or may not cost you money). Does she like you? Yes, but most likely not as a "boy friend". Embarrassed in front of co-workers. I highly doubt that! I think a lot more girls "date" customers than you can imagine. (of course "date" doesn't necessarily mean in a romantic sense) Cautious? Of course!

IRISH, the thing to keep in mind is it's not about you, it's about her. It always is. She obviously enjoys being with you when you're in the club together, but when you aren't she probably doesn't even think about you, especially when she isn't at work. Most dancers live in two different worlds - their dancer world and their real world, and it's tough to cross the line from one to the other because in their mind they're two different people, the real person is a stranger to you. My advice is to enjoy what you have in the club, and if she wants to take it beyond that let her suggest it. And even then she'll probably back out. You have your fantasy ( dating her) and she has hers (that she's 2 different people.)

I was wondering if Robert's wife knows what he is doing or if the stripper knows he is married. Sounds like fireworks might go off if someone finds out. Just my thoughts though, it's not my life. I just know if some dancer wanted to sleep with me I would like it if she told me first that she was married, because then I wouldn't. That seems to be one question I keep forgetting to ask about whenever a dancer seems to be trying to hook up with me, but that doesn't happen too often. I get the impression a large number of people don't care about those boundaries.

Just got to reading this whole post and I agree with David9999 that ATF's can be more fun than the original scenario above. There will be a lot of different levels of relationship. There's not a hint of 'love' with my ATF. She simply is my type, fun to be with, provides whatever I need etc., so why not have one if you're into that? It can get expensive shopping through dancers to find the combination of looks, mileage and personality (hmmm...personality)so I prefer this arrangement. It also doesn't mean I can't sample others if I want. I did that last week when she was busy and man, the look on her face could kill. Of course that's just because she can see 'her money' floating to the other side of the room but I think it helps keep their attention on your needs.