Being Black and Dancing in PA

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Iridescenttt
Do any of you know of any clubs that hire thicker black women? I’m not a BBW. I’m literally 5’7 size 8-10 medium. I do not have a bad shape at all but it feels like I have to be light skin, curly hair, and skinny to get hired to fit the look. It’s very frustrating because I do pole work. I’m chatting with the girls in the dressing room and they’re like oh I didn’t do any pole work and got in…the pattern Im seeing is petite, white, or light skin to make the club diverse.

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Call.Me.Ishmael
2 years ago
This site is mostly for customers, but perhaps some PA customers can help by noting where they've seen similar dancers. You might also seek out stripper Reddit subs to get feedback from more dancers (though there are a few dancers here).

You're pretty based on your profile image. I'd like to believe it wouldn't be a challenge for you to get hired, but my opinion may not translate to reality.
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Iridescenttt
2 years ago
Thanks for the idea! I’ll move to Reddit! I appreciate the compliment ! You’d be surprised the hiring process has been a headache to say the least. I’m out here going upside down, air walking not getting any call backs. It’s baffling really
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whodey
2 years ago
I don't have a lot of experience in Pennsylvania clubs so hopefully someone can help you more than I can.

I can say from my limited experiences that the Philly clubs have more black dancers working in them than the Pittsburgh clubs. From my couple visits to Outer Space in Philly it was mostly black dancers and they ranged from light skin to dark skin and from spinners to bbw so it may be a decent club to try.
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Tetradon
2 years ago
What part of PA?

There are a few Eastern PA locals who can tell you where black ladies dance and make bank. But from your pictures, I'd buy dances from you anywhere.

I see you're also a VIP. You can read reviews to see what goes on where.
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Iridescenttt
2 years ago
I will travel. Im a trained pole dancer so urban clubs aren’t my thing. I don’t want to just shake ass all day. I know I want to work at a more upscale gentleman’s club. I know all different clubs have a different vibe. I’ve been to Eastern PA and Philly alike even South Jersey ( not so much Jersey though)
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Muddy
2 years ago
Hey Iride I would post some body pics.

Sin city definitely likes thick big booty girls but not big girls. It’s all about that fat ass

If your down with extras try Purple orchid

You got Risque Bristol is pretty popular, all types

Tattlestales in Levittown would probably hire a thicker girl.

Creekside cabaret is nice.





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Iridescenttt
2 years ago
I don’t get down with extras. Creekside was really pretty but they didn’t hire me. I’ll try the other 3, thanks
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Papi_Chulo
2 years ago
Plenty of AA-dancers have this complaint/issue; especially if they are on the thicker-side and/or darker-skinned (but mostly the former) – thick dancers in general often have a harder-time getting-hired and being AA on top unfortunately often adds to the issue – this is usually more-so in the better/nicer/more-upscale clubs – I don’t think there is much that can be done – for one, the nicer-clubs already have a lot of girls wanting to work in them so these clubs are sorta in a position to choose and likely usually turn down more dancers than they hire.

There is likely an “unwritten quota” w.r.t. how many AA-girls a “mixed” club will hire (and what type of AA girl) – in part it’s b/c black-custies often prefer the thick AA girls thus if a club starts hiring these type of dancers, I assume the mixed-clubs fear it’ll become a “black club” and perhaps drive-away their current clientele (and perhaps their current-dancer-base like the Cuban-dancers have done in the South at many clubs where the Cubans end up driving-away the white-dancers).

I’d say in the nicer-clubs, you either need a connection (a dancer that already works there and can put in a word for you) – or you have to over-impress (doll yourself up as much as possible, and show-up “dressed to kill” showing a lot of cleavage etc) – or sometimes in the nicer-clubs a girl gets her foot in by working as waitress for a while and then building some connections within the club.

Some area/cities, or clubs, are just worse than others when it comes to hiring thick AA girls – you kinda need to learn the M.O. of these places and perhaps visit as a custy to get the gist of different clubs (reading reviews on TUSCL also helps get familiarized with clubs around the country and their M.O.).

Best of luck.


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blahblahblah23
2 years ago
Sorry I can't help with Philly, but anyways not trying to be mean.. a lot of these clubs are racist as fuck with black ladies. I hate to say it, but if you truly insist on sticking strictly to gentleman's clubs then maybe trim down some. Either gain muscle at the same weight or lose a few, honestly.

The thing is imo a lot of these gentleman's clubs really aren't all that. If you wanna talk your head off to often some dbag who then tries to get away with this and that for an hour straight in the private room go right ahead.

Some booty clubs you don't have to be dancing/shaking ass all day? You just gotta have a butt the customers like lol.

Anyway again, sorry if that came off rude. I didn't mean to. Just trying to be honest.
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blahblahblah23
2 years ago
And I get that it is fucked up for the black ladies who dance...

I've seen countless of these "GeNTLEmans Clubs" that will hire either fat white/latina/asian chicks or just shapeless chunky chicks of these races, but then every single black or mixed with black chick is beyond fucking flawless to get hired.

It sucks, I get it.
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Iridescenttt
2 years ago
Im not trimming down any lol my stomach is flat and I’m a DDD. I had a bbl. There’s no pudge or backrolls. I pole and powerlift. Im thick, not fat.
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Iridescenttt
2 years ago
It’s cool though imma try this place my dancer friend works at and if that doesn’t work f it, it’s a sign lol Im about to get my degree anyway. I just was trying to stack my coins.
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wallanon
2 years ago
I was in Philly this Summer and would be a little surprised if you couldn't get hired there if you look the way you say. Good luck with landing in a club you like.
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blahblahblah23
2 years ago
A lot of skinny white girl clubs don't like BBL unless it is a very small and natural BBL which imo defeats the purpose.

Idk I'd just go with the flow on this instead of against it.
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Iridescenttt
2 years ago
I just uploaded a picture of myself, my bbl is very natural, I lost 80 lbs so they literally didn’t have any fat to take out really when they were performing the procedure. As y’all can see I’m not necessarily fat, I’m thicker, my curves aren’t crazy but my stomach is flat with no backrolls and I’m solid 😅
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Iridescenttt
2 years ago
I’m about to get a second round though, to fill in my hips more. I like my natural look I got going on, it matches my thighs and when I’m walking around nobody can clock I had work done which I love. My stomach is flat but I do have some loose skin obviously in my boobs and my tummy cause I lost 80 lbs. but the men are not noticing that AT ALL😂😭. I even had one guy literally tell the manager to hire me on the spot at an amateur night but y’all obviously know how that went lol!
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whodey
2 years ago
Based on the pic you posted I am shocked you can't find a club. I know I would buy some dances from you and I'm sure a lot of others on here would as well.
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Iridescenttt
2 years ago
Thank you! I appreciate it the colorism in the dancer world is CRAZY
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skibum609
2 years ago
"a lot of skinny white girls"? Are we talking strip clubs circa 1998, because there aren't a lot of skinny dancers of any color any longer.
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blahblahblah23
2 years ago
Ok I looked at the pic. You look good OP. I think certain clubs want you to be like scrawny skinny if u know what I mean, but yeah you're not fat at all and look very natural. I definitely think it is racism at play here. The pic is a bit blurry, but are your nails that long? Some of those "gentleman's" clubs hate that as well, but idk that it is worth changing your nails that you enjoy if it might be racism period. Judging by how you post, you're able to talk in a way those type of clubs like. Yeah fuck these clubs then, I'm very sorry OP. There is no reason you shouldn't at least be able to get into a midscale non-booty club.
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blahblahblah23
2 years ago
Skibum have you been to Portland? Most of the clubs out here are largely very very skinny white girls. There are some fat or average size chicks as well. I'd often be 1 of the bigger chicks in a lot of these Portland clubs for reference, and I wouldn't say I'm a land whale.
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VanessaM
2 years ago
I knew a thick dancers who worked at Delilah’s and she wasn’t light skin.

You won’t know unless you go. A place can hire someone who description wise sounds similar to you but if you audition they may say No.
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Papi_Chulo
2 years ago
I wonder if her tats may be an *additional* factor? IDK if it's the lighting in the pic but she seems to have a tat on her stomach and a pretty-big tat on her thigh; etc - not judging; but it used to be that certain clubs were a bit more restrictive w.r.t. tats/certain-tats but IDK if that's still the case?
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Papi_Chulo
2 years ago
^ but then again maybe she was covered/fully-dressed when she went to apply?
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blahblahblah23
2 years ago
I don't think clubs discriminate on ink anymore from what I've seen. They are definitely still weird about black girls. I personally have never seen another race have issues getting hired or another race get shit from management besides black or mixed with black.

I don't really get it neither. Typical American white chicks are going out of style these days. You would think clubs may try and get on trend with this.
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Iridescenttt
2 years ago
I think it’s the fear of bringing in black girls then the club attracts a more urban crowd then it becomes more urban. It’s fucked up but it is what it is I guess
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Iridescenttt
2 years ago
Maybe the ink is a factor at some places I’ve auditioned because most of the girls are pretty bare at some of these places.
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skibum609
2 years ago
Almost 100% old white guys at Desires yesterday afternoon and the black dancers as well as the Brazilians seemed to be out of favor, even Aurora, whom I consider super hot. Might be racism, because as we all know older white men are all racists and have no personal preferences. Also could have been 25 dancers and 15 customers, many of whom appeared to have preplanned.
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blahblahblah23
2 years ago
I've seen a lot of clubs that seem to have the mentality of "hiring too many black girls brings in ghetto customers" which is bullshit. It is the same logic as not allowing certain genres of music to be played at some clubs. It doesn't actually work that way though ime. Some clubs can get real bad even if they ban all rap/hip hop lmfao, seen it myself.
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Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
The type of crowd is most affected by what management allows and the male staff they hire. Promoters security etc.

The most ghetto clubs I've seen are ones where for example managers hire staff with gang affiliations.

Or when they have vip events catering to drug dealers illegal dispensaries and peo athletes..

Dancers don't have much of an impact

As for hiring girls. I'm not seeing clubs being picky now a days
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skibum609
2 years ago
I have a few friends who no longer dance with black dancers because they're the type that like a long experience with a lot of chit chat. They're no longer comfortable in a world where words mean so much that they have to carefully weigh every word, so they have backed off. Pre covid they would do dances with my atf and another woc dancer at Desires (Parker) because I reccommended them as sticks and stones type people who were simply lovely and gave an awesome dance.
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NinaBambina
2 years ago
That's true what Blahblah said. When I was new to stripping, a dark skinned black friend of mine saw how much money I was bringing in, and decided to audition. I helped her pick out a cute outfit and helped her do her makeup and she looked great so I went down to the dressing room to get ready and got a text from her saying, "I didn't get hired. He said he has too many black girls." I was actually shocked. So she went home, and when I got on the floor and questioned him about it, he flat out told me, "I have too many black girls. She can come work once I get rid of one of them."

I can name countless incidents of obvious racism against black girls in "gentlemen's clubs"...it is actually rampant, but has gotten so much better in the last few years. My advice to you would unfortunately be to "whiten yourself out," I know it sounds awful but talk overaly peppy and sounding like a stereotypical "white girl" when you audition. Maybe go to some clubs as a customer first to get the info on what other girls there wear, so you can be prepared.
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skibum609
2 years ago
Ahh stereotypical white girl always gets hired. Does that mean that the stereotypical black girl doesn't? Ge, the problem must be race, couldn't be that some stereotypes are more popular than others. It's not like the stereotypical steak dinner is better than the stereotypical .......
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Call.Me.Ishmael
2 years ago
I've had long conversations with black dancers, and sometimes about controversial things where we disagreed, and I've never once been afraid that I might get in trouble. I think it has more to do with people forgetting how to have civil conversations (or just not wanting to).

But, you know, if there's a bunch of guys out there avoiding the hot black dancers because they have anxiety over talking to them, then I'm happy to step in and take all those bullets.
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skibum609
2 years ago
So, a guy with a fetish for blue eyed blondes is a racist? the phrase "too many black girls" always has to be racist? It could never just be a statement that an owner tries to keep a diverse dance crew? If an owner believes the racial makeup preferred by her customers is certain percentages and tries to keep it that way, it always has to be racism? Can it ever be anything else? I wonder if anyone is noticing that calling everything "racism" is just recently no longer working? The real question is: "Just because someone perceives an action as racist, is it racist?
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twentyfive
2 years ago
I gotta say if these are the kind of conversations that guys are having in a strip club, (not that I care how another dude spends his money) you’re doing it wrong.
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wallanon
2 years ago
It's pretty easy around here to dump on people around the TUSCL boards for some impressive displays of selective thinking, but this has been an interesting thread. My take on strip clubs is it's one of the few places where people on either side of the transaction are willing to look the other way on comments that miss the mark because it's horny dudes trying to get their and dancers wanting to get paid by someone who might pay them again for their service. And it's about sexual attraction which is about as primal as it gets.

If there are actually guys with means who have so much anxiety about saying the wrong thing that they're avoiding a conversation with a stripper then that is an interesting take for sure. Year after year after year I see and hear about dancers holding their nose and toughing it out with a customer they don't like for whatever reason (their age, their job, their politics, their hygiene, their race, their personality, whatever).

Is it really that much worse now because people plug their brains into their 24/7 brain bending online content?
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VanessaM
2 years ago
@skibum609

No everything is/isn’t racism.

Blonde hair blue eyes for the most part isn’t a fetish it’s standard .
I don’t see a customer rejecting me because I’m not yt as racism especially when that customer “shares” the same skin tone as the dancer he prefers BECAUSE they “share” similar lived experiences. It makes sense why someone would prefer their own.

However I do see a club not allowing or having a cap on black dancers as racism. Google racism where it will be defined as keeping a group from resource’s because you think your kind is superior. The resource is money and a better work environment. .

Ugh but with that being said how a dancer perceives herself perhaps isn’t the way other perceive her. She may think she looks the part but may not be able to stand up against the other dancers at the club.

This isn’t a topic you as a customer should fully question as for you to know if it’s racism or not you’d have to be the one experiencing it or the one who is said to be committing the act.

I really wish we would stop bringing these discussions to the site a lot of y’all are removed from being able to take a deep look into things

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Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Clubs are racist coz they know that customers are racist and keeping them happy keeps money coming in.

Acting white is a good strategy to get hired.

But also keep in mind the very real problem clubs have with ghetto black and latina girls. Don't be like them.
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VanessaM
2 years ago
Assuming all blk and Latina women are ghetto is a stereotype. Then I can assume all yt dancers be strung out?

An audition is not only a time to judge a dancer on her looks but her mannerisms and mentality as well.



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Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Bharlem. I said ghetto women who are black and latina have a reputation in clubs. I didn't say blacks and Latinas are ghetto. And im well aware if how ruthless black clubs are as workplaces.
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Iridescenttt
2 years ago
I’m DEAD. What is acting “white”. Atp this has become too much, thank you all to everyone who had advice of use to give. I ended up meeting an owner of a club that I actually tried to audition at(they wouldn’t even let me). He looked at me said he didn’t understand why they wouldn’t let me audition if he was in he’d have hired me on the spot. Regardless it put things into perspective. It really is a cap most times if it’s managed by someone who is not black. (The owner was black)

Anyway he doesn’t want me to dance, (couldve if I wanted to) but im a bottle girl. Plus he spoils me with 1500 a week. I’m cool with that and I like that idea more . I found a solution, I’m outside on trips, and it all worked out in the end 😂 still getting my degree though!
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wallanon
2 years ago
Glad it worked out for you. Thanks for letting us know how things went.
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SirLapdancealot
2 years ago
Black Strippers Matter! ✊🏿💃🏿
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georgmicrodong
2 years ago
I've only been to one club in PA, Partner's Tavern in Erie, but I've seen AA dancers there. No idea about any other club.
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Dudecreeping
2 years ago
it doesnt matter where you dance. If you provide good service the money follows. The racial thing doesnt matter. Do you think if these high end white clubs let you in that these old white males will throw money at you for talking? they are from a different generation with different taste. With any business model you niche down and deal with the people that like you. if you like the people who like you then your in the wrong line of work. you worried about white girls when trying to be you. If your not a dancer and your just simp hustling these words dont apply.
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Dudecreeping
2 years ago
* if you dont like the people that like you*
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Iridescenttt
2 years ago
I mean I hear you. I am a financial dominatrix and a SB, so with that being said, I can talk a boot off a boot. And I do get money for conversing. People like my vernacular. I figured I’d incorporate dancing into it cause I’d meet more people off of sugaring websites. I can work a pole, but ultimately, sugaring is my thing and believe it or not, many men’s fantasy is not just throwing ass, it’s feeling wanted. The customers want me most definitely. The managers don’t. But I hear you lol
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Iridescenttt
2 years ago
And my demographic for my clients that I dominate are usually white collar men, so that’s why I wanted to work in a place like it. I ended up dudding it because the opportunity that presented itself, however there was a method to my madness.
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dha
2 years ago
Try eating less, working out more, and talking less.

Be sensual, smell good, and have smooth skin all over. Put out!

Achieve this and you will be saught out. If not, keep crying about it, wondering why, and blaming the man for injustice.

Easy formula
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Call.Me.Ishmael
2 years ago
^ Resurrects dead thread just to make an asshole comment. So... troll (most likely).

But still an asshole.
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dha
2 years ago
Whitenight ishmall
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skibum609
2 years ago
^Fuck you bitch.
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Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Cims mo is trolling by baiting dumb arguments and pretending everyone's a troll but his stupid bitch ass

Dha sounds like cacaplop

Skicucks wife fucks everyone lulz
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twentyfive
2 years ago
^ And it wouldn't be a holiday without our resident cosplay pimp, and experienced human trafficker stopping by, to call the kettle black
LULZ
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Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Look cosplay Jewish millionaire. Ignore ms like your kids ignore you
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twentyfive
2 years ago
^You didn’t need to chime in with your shit troll
You could have just ignored this but that wouldn’t happen you’ll never miss a chance to be a twat
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skibum609
2 years ago
^Don't worry I have Icee's address.
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Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
20fag go back to drinking whiskey coz your kids hate you

Skicuck you enjoy those nurse union benefits while posting right wing extremist shit.
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wallanon
2 years ago
Has dha always been dha on here, or did they change their handle from something else?
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dha
2 years ago
Calm down guys. Thought I was giving her good advice. Just ignore it if you don't like it or provide better advice to her.

Same handle. I wouldn't know how to change it anyway.

What is cosplay and LULZ?

This board used to be straight to the point. But, over the years a lot of drama has surfaced and others have been telling members how to write reviews and how to respond. And using silly words like Custie.

Those are some reasons why I stopped adding reviews.

I think the stats and reviews may have reset when the format changed or, maybe, a new owner took over. This happened a while ago. I thought I would start giving back again.

Hope that addresses your question Wall.
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twentyfive
2 years ago
Iceefag is back
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twentyfive
2 years ago
^ LULZ
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twentyfive
2 years ago
Not an accusation it’s a statement of fact dougie
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deboinair
2 years ago
I suggest just looking searching for clubs that have mostly black dancers. The other clubs stop hiring at a certain quota and only want a certain type which you described to a tee.
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CulonaSpinner
a year ago
It's hard out here for us all. Black girls have to deal with 10xs more scrutiny from these clubs. Sigh
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HoneyDewMelons
a year ago
Briannas...torresdale ave
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