you can count the notches on her ass.
if she has a tenth or more notches than dipshitscrub has on his fat ass from his gloryhole escapades you know she's a worn out hoe.
let's say at the club you see this girl that to your eyes you would consider an 8-9. exactly the type of girl that would be your fave for a while. at what body count number would you acceptable and not go beyond to want to be with this girl?
I suspect that this will inevitably be another rabbit hole thread with endless posts about "paying hookers for sex" and gullible Johns who believe the lies told to them by prostitutes. It's hard for some guys to process the nuanced human behavior of girls who pick their spots, so instead they just assume that any girl who ever fucks any guy for money will do so with anyone.
So with that said, I'm going to avoid going down the rabbit hole of debating various signs and behavioral tip-offs. Instead I am going to point to one simple objective sign that is hard to dispute, which is that a girl who works at the club F/T and doesn't fuck and suck ITC is inevitably lower volume than one who does give it up ITC.
@rickdugan: "which is that a girl who works at the club F/T and doesn't fuck and suck ITC is inevitably lower volume than one who does give it up ITC."
That's a good guideline, and one I use myself, but it's nowhere near "inevitable". There are at least two girls at PT's who don't do anything at all at the club, but regularly and often trip and fall on their backs OTC. Now to be fair, it's apparently moderately hard (though not impossible) to actually get it stuck in ITC at PT's. The VIP rooms are subject to random waitress intrusion, even for the highest price, 1500 per hour, room. And a number of girls have been fired for even the most mundane of "extras".
So absolutely use what rick said as a guideline, because in most clubs, it's going to be a very good one, but don't confuse it for universal.
@ Rick, well said. that a girl who works at the club F/T and doesn't fuck and suck ITC is inevitably lower volume than one who does give it up ITC. Super tip.
My own experience tells me the gals that allow FIV are usually the highest mileage both ITC or as Take Out, as far as the ones that do the deeds ITC it's dependent on the club, some clubs it's doable others it isn't.
@GMD: There are exceptions to every rule, but they are exceptions for a reason. In this case it's just math mixed in with a little common sense. It's much easier to stack guys ITC than OTC under the best of circumstances. But when the OTC girl is already working 30+ hours a week ITC NOT fucking and sucking...
One added assurance in these situations is when the girl is not especially difficult to schedule. Then it's pretty much a lock. Conversely, the tipoff for me that she has decided to expand her contribution pool is when she starts to become more difficult to lock down.
@rickdugan: "One added assurance in these situations is when the girl is not especially difficult to schedule."
That one I'll give you. My ATF was easy to schedule time with, and my current rut gave me her work schedule and told me basically any time outside those hours. I can only think of a couple of occasions she's put me off.
In general high volume honeys are quick to suggest OTC in some form even if it's not hotel time. They are also a bit quicker to suggest exchanging cell numbers.
Hard to tell though. When I googled a number a honey recently gave me, it showed her advertising as an escort in another state. I never would have guessed it.
When it comes down to it you have to let those thoughts escape your mind. These are very attractive women who for the right price may have many suitors. I know it sounds insane but try to see her as being exclusive with you. I normally go for baby strippers who don’t tend to sit with favorites
If it takes a long time before OTC is offered or accepted. If she quotes or seriously charges high rates. The higher the rate the lower the volume usually.
Odds are if she’s in your dick she’s high volume. Girls are discrete and will try their best for sexual anonymity. Too many people, both men and women, are happy to slut shame someone who’s not fucking them. Sex, politics, and religion are topics rarely shared by most people. When yiu do share, lots of shaming goes on. You can include personal finance under politics. That rabbit hole debate avoidance can be true for all 3 topics. I personally don’t want to know anyones preference for either topics, except for the ones I’m engaging them with.
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if she has a tenth or more notches than dipshitscrub has on his fat ass from his gloryhole escapades you know she's a worn out hoe.
let's say at the club you see this girl that to your eyes you would consider an 8-9. exactly the type of girl that would be your fave for a while. at what body count number would you acceptable and not go beyond to want to be with this girl?
So with that said, I'm going to avoid going down the rabbit hole of debating various signs and behavioral tip-offs. Instead I am going to point to one simple objective sign that is hard to dispute, which is that a girl who works at the club F/T and doesn't fuck and suck ITC is inevitably lower volume than one who does give it up ITC.
That's a good guideline, and one I use myself, but it's nowhere near "inevitable". There are at least two girls at PT's who don't do anything at all at the club, but regularly and often trip and fall on their backs OTC. Now to be fair, it's apparently moderately hard (though not impossible) to actually get it stuck in ITC at PT's. The VIP rooms are subject to random waitress intrusion, even for the highest price, 1500 per hour, room. And a number of girls have been fired for even the most mundane of "extras".
So absolutely use what rick said as a guideline, because in most clubs, it's going to be a very good one, but don't confuse it for universal.
One added assurance in these situations is when the girl is not especially difficult to schedule. Then it's pretty much a lock. Conversely, the tipoff for me that she has decided to expand her contribution pool is when she starts to become more difficult to lock down.
That one I'll give you. My ATF was easy to schedule time with, and my current rut gave me her work schedule and told me basically any time outside those hours. I can only think of a couple of occasions she's put me off.
Hard to tell though. When I googled a number a honey recently gave me, it showed her advertising as an escort in another state. I never would have guessed it.