Congratulations to the people of Donbas and Novorossiya on their vote to rejoin
Dave_Anderson
Congratulations both to Russia and to the Donetsk and Lugansk Republics as well as the Kherson and Zaporozhia regions on the successful conducting of their referendums on rejoining Russia.
All four referendums passed and despite fake news in the western media there was strong turnout with no serious evidence of "coercion." In fact it was Ukraine threatening voters who participated.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_ann…
The DPR and LPR will likely rejoin Russia as federal subjects by the end of this year, either as Republics or oblasts. They are already partially integrated with Russia and are ready. Kherson and Zaporozhia will likely become independent states briefly as they prepare for full integration into the Russian Federation in the near future.
Congratulations to all involved on this historic vote especially the courageous voters of these regions who had been threatened with 10 years in prison in Ukraine just for participating.
All four referendums passed and despite fake news in the western media there was strong turnout with no serious evidence of "coercion." In fact it was Ukraine threatening voters who participated.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_ann…
The DPR and LPR will likely rejoin Russia as federal subjects by the end of this year, either as Republics or oblasts. They are already partially integrated with Russia and are ready. Kherson and Zaporozhia will likely become independent states briefly as they prepare for full integration into the Russian Federation in the near future.
Congratulations to all involved on this historic vote especially the courageous voters of these regions who had been threatened with 10 years in prison in Ukraine just for participating.
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Explain again how "Russia is losing"? Gaining four new regions doesn't seem to be "losing" to me.
The US and the so-called "west" have been humiliated after provoking and backing this conflict. Thry just refuse to own the "l" and admit it. Thats why they are reporting to desperate terrorist acts.
That doesn’t sound like the actions of a winning side.
I figure Dave is more likely to join the Russian Navy and swab the poop deck.
Realizing that explains a lot of what goes on in Russia.
The only thing you can do is talk big here then divert when confronted, PUSSYBOI!
Any other questions punk?
I have another question that you haven't answered, do you spit or swallow when you're turning tricks in your I-10 glory hole?
Get back to diverting in your gloryhole boy, divert that man cum in your ass to your big mouth!
Yup. Funny thing was, they were testing the air raid siren one day. It had been announced for a certain time. The time hit +5 minutes. I asked the teacher, "Mr. Xxxx, isn't there supposed to be a siren blaring out?". He said, "Yes, there is," and he went and opened the window. It was there, barely audible, and it was less than half a mile away! 😂
SJG
No Quarter
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It may take several years but it will finally be accepted that the absorption of the Russian speaking eastern part of the Ukraine into Russia is permanent. We won't start World War III over this. With the Boomers retiring, Social Security and Medicare will eat up most of the government budget with increased interest payments on the expanding debt eating up a lot of the rest. The U.S. will have to slash military spending and adopt a noninterventionist foreign policy out of necessity.
It’s played out that way for a couple months and Russia hasn’t figured out how to oppose it. So, they are supposedly bringing in 300,000 conscripts, rushing them to the front, and telling them they will be killed if they surrender or retreat. That’s how Russia defeated Germany during WWII. They used millions of troops as cannon fodder and eventually won the numbers game.
I don’t that will work in the modern era, Hundreds of thousands of potential conscripts are fleeing, hiding, or shooting the recruiters.
There is a lot of history between these two countries and Ukraine has just as much, if not more, reason to be free.
I think that’s similar to what is happening with the Russian army.
https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/29/dire-stat…
The Russians care about their country too. The U.S. told them they would not expand NATO to the Russian border. Ukraine had given up their nuclear weapons, but Zelensky had started talking about going nuclear again. The Russians do not want a hostile U.S. backed nuclear power on their border. How would Americans like a Russian backed hostile Mexico with nuclear weapons on our border? Did we do nothing when Russia tried that with Cuba?
This is not really about the Ukraine. Putin needs to be portrayed as a dangerous menace here in the U.S. in order to justify our $800 billion yearly U.S. military budget. The military-industrial complex makes a lot of money from that and doesn't want the gravy train to end. A large military and our attempt to play policeman for the world is going to end, though, because we don't have the money for it. We are running trillion dollar a year deficits now and the money printing to pay for overspending is leading to high inflation and the impoverishment of the average American.
Throughout Europe, countries embraced Greta Thunebergs green energy fantasies, closing power plants, building windmills, and relying on Russian energy. Their entire economy, their way of life, required the continued flow of cheap natural gas from Russia, which they assumed would continue forever.
Putin was clear that he was prepared to go to war if Ukraine became a NATO member. Despite this, the Biden administration announced that Ukraine was on the fast track to join NATO. Shortly after that announcement, Russia began building troops on the Ukraine border.
Based on what his stooges told him, Putin thought the Ukrainian people would welcome the Russians as liberators, resulting in a 3 day war. Wrong.
Now, we are locked in a war that no one can walk away from. Like two dogs fighting over a bone. We are only beginning to realize how much the western world will change as a result of a few horrible decisions by our leadership class.
The problem is propping up zelensky to fight a proxy war against Russia and thinking there would be no repercussions
We never promised anything to the Russians about NATO, the rush to join NATO is fueled by a single reason, Putin’s own actions, the Russians could stop fighting today and the war would be over, if the Ukraine stops fighting the Ukraine will cease to exist, funny thing about you guy’s being so smart, you’re just a bunch of apologists for Vladimir Putin.
I say fuck the damn Russians I’d give Zelensky longer range armaments let the Russians go fuck themselves. The Russians can’t even feed their own soldiers, give the Ukraine longer range armaments this war will be over in short order.
You sound like you worked inside the war machine so you know about it.
The talk about what Russia is entitled to do by history is sketchy. If they have an old claim on these territories based on history and population then we should be open to Mexico coming into Texas and California because it was Mexican territory before and there are as many, or more , Mexicans in these states.
As for California or Texas joining Mexico, I would be fine with them taking a vote in those states to see if they want to join Mexico. I would be against the government in Washington D.C. trying to stop that. I am also against the Ukraine government trying to stop the Russian speaking parts of the country from leaving if they want. I don't believe in the use of force to keep people from doing what they want to do. I believe in voluntary relationships between people that are mutually beneficial to those involved.
Americans are just not realistic about our financial situation. With the Boomers retiring, it's estimated by 2032 that the cost of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, military and civilian pensions will be 100% of tax revenues. By then, our national debt will be forty trillion dollars. We can't keep interest rates low because it is inflationary so, assuming a normal 5% interest rate, that will be two trillion dollars a year just for interest payments on the debt. We just can't keep spending 800 billion dollars a year on a military so we can pursue an interventionist foreign policy. We need to accept reality. To be honest, I think Americans are too childish and immature to accept reality. They always vote for the politicians who want to spend more on everything, including a huge military, and it will eventually drive the country into an economic collapse.
Despite its economic success, China is not an existential threat to the US. They have a huge military but lack the ability to project force very far from their borders. Additionally, their survival depends on importing food and oil from sources thousands of miles away. If China started a war with the US or one of our Allie’s, we could stop the flow of food and oil within a matter of days.
We will reposition our military to maintain peace in the Western Hemisphere, plus guard shipping lanes with a few key Allies. We no longer need to have 14 nuclear aircraft carriers or thousands of troops in Germany, Japan, and South Korea.
I think that was the main reason for annexation.
Oops, wasn't supposed to say that part...
https://nypost.com/2022/09/30/high-ranki…
As far as has actually been reported, there was no shipments being made on Nord 2 and Nord 1 was closed, I get the point of your skepticsm but most of what's being reported is just not accurate, and it makes less than no sense for Ukraine to commit an act of sabotage, against folks that are supporting A) Their application for membership in NATO B) The European Union, and I don't believe the U S has any interest we've been selling plenty of fuel and at the moment don't have the capacity to ship any more natural gas, and the Germans have no way to receive and store it even if we could ship it,
Alexander Mercouris on YouTube has been covering the battle for this town for a while now. The Ukrainians were literally putting almost all remaining effort before the autumn rains in their counter-offensive into taking this small town.
As Alex has pointed out for days, taking this town seemed to become a singular obsession for Zelinsky and/or the Ukrainian leadership but the reason for this isn't clear. Despite what the "western" media is saying the strategic value of this town is questionable.
Unlike in Izium where Russia barely had any troops and literally ceeded the city, Russia was making some effort to defend Liman. However, one would expect the massive Ukrainian counter-offensive to yield some victories. Russia is always willing to cede less strategic areas, pull back, regroup and focus on more important targets. Slow, methodical artillery based fighting is the general Russian strategy.
Losing Krasny Liman is not good for Russia but its not really a big deal in the overall picture. One would expect Ukraine to have some successes in its counteroffensive with billions of dollars in US weapons and support. The Kherson offensive was a disaster for Ukraine and the they continue to slowly lose ground around Donestsk City so these small victories in the North need to be looked at in perspective.
The "western" media is once again misleading its listeners.
We have reporting from every major news source in the world versus a kook on a titty bar message board who thinks Alex Jones is insightful.
Who isn't credible, again?
You.
Hard to believe they are paying Dave_Anderson 100,000 Rubles to post BS on TUSCL.
It boggles my mind that people would support Russian geopolitical motives. Putin is under a lot of pressure from both the hawks in his ranks and the larger risk of losing public support by escalating the war. The entire Ukraine escapade is about making Russia relevant again - and Ukrainians have been heroic in showing the world the cracks in the Russian war machine. Who knows what will happen in the next 6 months, putin cannot lose and stay on power. His hand is already forced.
He was regarded as calculating previously, now he’ll be remembered for an enormous miscalculation that resulted in his demise and set Russia back for decades.
That's what they like you to think but China is the main threat. It might not be militarily but they are the threat. They will do it by forcing companies that want to do business in China to follow their rules or be shut out. It's China's Corporate Social Credit System. You already see how they make the NBA fall in line.
Due to the one child policy, it now has more retirees than young workers.The workers it does have are being paid 12 times as much as in 2,000, making China noncompetitive. It is a demographic certainty that their population will shrink from 1.3 Billion to 650 Million by 2050. That has never happened to any other nation except for the Plague.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/eurasiantim…
Alex Jones Boy has no cred anyways.
Slava Ukraini
Slava Heroyam
Fuck Putin and fuck Putin again
And Fuck Putin a third time.
https://www.rt.com/russia/564303-crimean…
https://news.sky.com/story/key-bridge-fr…
This whole conflict seems to be a battle of incompetent "leaders" seeing who can fail the most. Both sides (US/NATO/ Ukraine) and Russia seem to be trying to compete to decide which side is most incompetent.
How about we negotiate an end to this tragic and unnecessary slaughter as Elon Musk recently proposed?