TJ Hotel Information
PutaTester
West Coast. He who dies with the most memories wins.
Stayed at Hotel Caesar several times now. (Chosen because I like TLNs with HK girls and the HK/Cascadas management wants a $300 bar fine for them to spend the night.) Rooms are comfortable and clean. The street side is a little noisy; won't choose a street side room again. Staff was nice, but little English skills. NP as I have been practicing my Spanish and could at least convey that I had a reservation. Booked the hotel through their web site once and booked through Hotels.com twice. You pay on arrival. Of note, there is no elevator.
Don't know if this sign is recent or I simply had not noticed it in the past. The English reads:
"Room with 1 bed: Only 2 persons inside the room the one who made the register and his companion.
You can not change companion"
(The grammatical errors are theirs.)
They had similar notices for rooms with two beds. Walked in with a chica. I was not challenged in any way. She was the only chica I took to the room and she spent the entire night, so I didn't challenge the multiple "companions" restriction.
Stayed in Ticuan Friday night (8/5/22) for the first time. Booked through Hotels.com. Pricy, but impressive. Interior room. Very spacious. No flaws, mold, exposed caulking, or other small flaws that I often see in other hotels. Staff was nice. Room was prepaid through Hotels.com. I was able to check in at 1:30. They asked for my driving license specifically. Probably because it has my home address on it; the passport does not. When checking out, I saw someone doing touch-up painting in the hallway. Several maids on the floor. Checked out just before 12:00. Fast and easy.
The important issue was that about 11:00 pm I walked in with a HK chica who was clearly more than half my age. There was staff at the front desk close to the elevator. (The elevator inside the front doors was blocked off and there was a security person at the front door.) The staff barely looked at me. The few waiting clients clearly did notice us.
I was told that the hotel is chica-friendly, but I was concerned. Made sure that she brought her ID in case she was asked for it or I had to put her on the registry.
Booked it because Hotel Caesar's was booked full. Almost three times the price of Hotel Caesar's, so it will stand as an excellent backup. The chica was very impressed. Hope she doesn't expect this level during every visit.
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SJG
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Hotel Ticuan, C. 8va. Miguel Hidalgo 8190, Zona Centro, 22000 Tijuana, B.C., Mexico
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Santa Cecila
This seems to have Jacuzzi Rooms, and it is just a few doors down from El Fracaso, the only TJ bar which observes the indoor smoking ban.
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But I don't other wise know how good Santa Cecila is.
Tester, I am guessing that these are girls you already knew, not ones you just met.
SJG
I was very disappointed with staying at Cascadas the last time I went. So I am exploring other options to sleep. Does the wifi actually work ? Can you get cellphone signals ?
Redbaron, I can confirm that HK/BT/Cascadas/Rizo want $300 in bar fine to have a girl overnight. It is well known by many of the staff that I have an ATF and she is a sweetheart that is well known to the staff. They have seen us together often. Thursday night I stayed at Rizo to do some hunting. (Soon I will have a report that includes an Adelita BG coming to my Rizzo room.) As I was checking out, one of the security guys well known to me asked if I was going to see ATF1 during my visit. I said yes, but that I cannot bring her to this hotel. He confirmed that if I did, I would have to pay a bar fine. "She works for the company and rules are rules." So I paid $150 for a room at Tiucan. Beautiful place. The Friday night room at Rizo would have been $120 as I recall. So I paid $30 more and avoided the bar fine.
Warrior15, It is a 15-20 minute walk from Caesar. About 20 minutes from Tiucan. Slight downhill from the hotels. The wifi and cell service (Verizon) works well at both hotels. On a previous visit, the wifi at Caesar was cranky once, but the desk clerk got it going for me. Both have a very easy sign on and allow up to four devices.
Want to know exactly, check the escort sites. The prices have gone up in the past few years, but they are a good indicator of a reasonable rate for a full night. Indeed, you might want to book an escort for the night, as that is what they are set up for. If a bar girl misses a night of work because she chose to spend the night with a client, she can get some grief. Indeed, HK/BT/Cascadas/Rizo claim that is why they have bar fines for mongers that have their BGs overnight; they call in sick to spend the night with a client and they are not selling drinks in the bar.
@Red a couple is 2, lol! I'll be there, I'm a HK addict through and through.
@azfriole, you said a few, not a couple. Regardless, I’m proud of you for being there in a couple.
SJG
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Well if it is, then there are also SG.
We need experts like you Tester to be out there exploring the options.
SJG
And then with the SG and what hotels they have contracts with and what that really means, I find it more confusing.
Best if the women can just make their own decisions.
SJG
Better if it were just like that between you and the women, not involving anyone else. But it can never be completely like that.
Your reporting, Tester, is very valuable.
SJG
I think you're kinda blurring the line between clubbing and mongering here. The clubs are (and really always have been) set up for quickies with the BGs. Having a longer time session with the girl is really something you negotiate with the girl and I think the recent moves by HK are just staking out their turf (HK, TB, Cascadas, and Rizo) so there's no point in complaining about it IMO. They're not going to change as long as they're making bank on it.
This expectation that you *should* be getting 1+ hour sessions whenever you want them is a relatively new thing for the ZN. They aren't going to change a successful business model just because you want them to. :)
Another issue is that several times I was blind-sided by these bar fines. Especially the $100-$300 bar fine for having an off-shift puta in my room. To me, that is just wrong, especially after six years of having putas in my room for extended periods without consequence, to be hit with this is annoying to be kind. None of the other clubs pull this shit. I am willing to pay a premium for quality, but when security knocks on my door without notice and says, "Cross my palm with $300 or the bitch cannot come in," I am supposed to say, "I am a wimpy mark and I will roll over on your command?"
"They're not going to change as long as they're making bank on it." That is a FACT. It is why I choose to vote with my dollars and make public their antics so others can make an informed decision. When they stop making bank on it, maybe they will be more reasonable. Not likely, but I can dream. Do you keep going back to the auto mechanic who performs unnecessary repairs on your car because his girlfriend is hot and working the appointment calendar? Or do you stop wasting your money and tell your friends to avoid that shop? Welcome to my friend zone. Or do you think I should stop posting about the good and the bad of my TJ experiences?
And then there is the semantics. To me, clubbing is what we do in the USA; look but expect no action. Mongering is the whole enchilada. (Pun intended.) And what is the point of going to TJ if you are not going to go all the way? Thirty minutes or ten hours? What is the difference? The end result is the same, wonderful memories.
Again mongo, you have my respect as I have enjoyed your postings and you seem like a reasonable person. Maybe I will have the privilege of continuing this conversation in person some day.
OTOH, if you don't like my opinion, refunds are available at the ticket booth as you exit.
"I think you're kinda blurring the line between clubbing and mongering here. The clubs are (and really always have been) set up for quickies with the BGs."
https://hotelcascadas.com/rooms/master-s…
Quickies?
I think those places are set up to be all things to all people. The biggest variable is how long you want to stay with a girl. And of course it is negotiated with her. But if you pay the room fee, then it should just be between you and the girl. No one else should be getting into the middle of it.
And Tester, you are doing a herculean job of it, testing these places by finding out what the limits are, and then reporting back. We want to restore these venues to what they had been, and that will only happen by putting economic pressure on them by switching to other hotels for a while.
SJG
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There's nothing at all wrong with shopping at HK for longer sessions at Ticuan (nice, isn't it?) and ultimately that's about all we should expect. Treat longer sessions with no knock in Cascadas as a bonus and move on.
On the subject of a meet-up, check your messages.
But as it is, many on this board like our expert Tester do TLNing in TJ. That was until these two hotel operators screwed it up.
If the problem is guys tying their girls up, well they just need to get a lot more of them.
SJG
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If she stays over an hour, buying drinks is required. If the client doesn’t buy the drinks, she must buy the drinks! She said that she had to pay the drink fine once, but the client reimbursed her.
Basically they have taken away one of the major reasons for having your own room.
Note that there was a CC puta that was to spend the night with me in the Rizo room, and thus rule would not have applied, but she ghosted me.
SJG
I can see the club setting a time-limit on dancers being in a custy's room and away from the club b/c o/w the club is potentially missing-out on profits while she's out of circulation (kinda analogous to ITC VIP time in a U.S. SC).
Are there issues w/ a HK girl coming to one's room (either Cascadas or Rizo) when she's off the clock - or is the club somehow having issues w/ this also?
SJG