Nuclear War > WW3

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shailynn
They never tell you what you need to know.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3ngw4/n…

I hope the dickless can get rid of their rhetoric when responding to this post. Who am I kidding this is TUSCL.

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Uprightcitizen
3 years ago
His own cronies would likely wack him if this option was ever seriiusly put into execution.
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shailynn
3 years ago
"DC, San Frans., NYC and Chicago"

Uh last time I checked unless you live in South America if a nuke went off in any of the cities you mentioned you're probably going to get some fallout, then get cancer, then die even if you're living in the woods in Montana.

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Call.Me.Ishmael
3 years ago
@shailynn ... Dixie/cacaplop doesn't post with any intent except causing increased turmoil. It's all 100% flame bait. Check out his previous posts.

Putin going on high alert with his nukes is troubling, but he has a long history of flexing with hyperbolic threats. That said, the troubling part is that in order for nuclear deterrence theory to be valid, there's a base assumption that everyone with control over nukes is rational and possesses at least a lowest-common-denominator baseline of morals/humanity. Unfortunately, this statement does not necessarily apply to Putin.

So, we have to look to the military leaders around him and the oligarchs to (hopefully) cut the wire between Putin and the nukes if he is, in fact, unhinged from reality.
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Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
CIM he posts yhe exact same things tetraplop theosu warrior and the other bigots here post. But funny how he's always around when the tetraplop profile is going on a trollathon
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Call.Me.Ishmael
3 years ago
^ Speaking of being here solely to create turmoil and post flamebait...
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Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
CIM all you do is troll and make accusations against anyone you disagree with. Youre just like cacaplop/tetraplop
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misterorange
3 years ago
Are we to believe that the people in charge of the nuclear arsenal are typically NOT on high alert? Who are they, Homer Simpson?

This is just more of his provocative rhetoric designed to get everybody wound up and focused on something other than whatever he's actually doing.
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Icee Loco (asshole)
3 years ago
The Biden regime is fear mongering to legitimate their push towards ww3.
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Tetradon
3 years ago
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Glory to Ukraine!
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bkkruined
3 years ago
Well, for my sake, if he does fire them off, he's goes all out with it...

Living within 50 miles of 60% of the stored weapons, and closer than that to a Trident base... It'll be over before I know about it.

I can't imagine he's stupid enough to think he's going to live more than an hour after giving that order. Whether it's followed or not. I can't imagine he's mad enough to not care. But that's a pretty serious question at this point.

It's understandable why he'd think he'd just roll over Ukraine. Last week everyone seemed to think it'd be over hours after rolling across the border. but, what, 4 days later, they still have power, internet, social media, are sending 100's of videos of destroyed Russian vehicles and planes left on youtube... The only thing the Red Army's really managed to capture and hold is Chernobyl...

At this point, he's probably terrified of NATO deciding to enforce a no fly zone, letting Ukraine's army move at will and really fuck them over. And scaring them with nukes is about the only option he has.
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shailynn
3 years ago
“ The only thing the Red Army's really managed to capture and hold is Chernobyl...”

I bet they were like “yeah you can keep that city, congratulations.”
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Lone_Wolf
3 years ago
He sounded so cray cray in that press conference it is a bit concerning.
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mark94
3 years ago
“More than 150 senior Russian officials sign open letter condemning Putin's invasion of Ukraine as 'an unprecedented atrocity' and warn of 'catastrophic consequences' while urging citizens 'not to participate' “

This is surprising. People who oppose Putin haven’t had a long lifespan.
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NJBalla
3 years ago
The only thing that scares me is how quickly people will forget this lunancy after Putin concedes. It seems like everyone has the memory of goldfish
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shailynn
3 years ago
"The only thing that scares me is how quickly people will forget this lunancy after Putin concedes. It seems like everyone has the memory of goldfish"

Europe says: eh so he flies off the handle sometimes, at least we still get cheap natural gas, oil and vodka. Meanwhile the Saudis are like "think we can bomb Israel and get away with it?"
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gammanu95
3 years ago
Vice news is not news. It's fake news. The little bit of it which is not fake news, is commercialist garbage.

Ona REAL news show, Fox News Sunday, Condoleeza Rice was asked about Putin's threat. Her sobering comment was that Putin has descended to a troubling level of irrationality that she has never witnessed before. Putin is 69. He's well into the age of dementia and other disease. Just look at our own senile leaders and least coast members. Putin has also made some distinctly uncharacteristic speeches and outbursts since just before and during the Ukraine invasion. He may have become unhinged. If he absurdly believes that a loss in the invasion of Ukraine is an existential threat to his grip on power, he would order nuclear strikes. His bomber force is no concern to the US. They could never cross Canada, the Atlantic, Pacific, or Gulf of Mexico to reach us without being utterly obliterated. Assume at least 50% of his SLBM force refuses orders to launch, assume that our attack subs knock out at least 25% of what is remaining, and he has 3-4 left. That's NYC, DC, Kitsap WA, and London (probably Brussels, too). However, he may have direct control over at least some of the Russian ICBMs, and their Doomsday Machine is still active. Yes, the USSR and now Russia has a machine which will automatically launch strategic ICBMs in the event of a western nuclear launch. These would be the hypersonic glide vehicles supposedly capable of dodging our anti-missile defenses.

This video lists some of the general strategic targets for nuclear weapons at 2:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7hOpT0l…. Defense strategists also aim nuclear weapons at population centers for second strike and demoralization attacks. It's frightening, and there is absolutely nothing we can do to stop it. Remember that Putin is an old, hard-line, Soviet-style cold warrior. They openly planned using nuclear weapons in first-strike scenarios against non-nuclear countries.
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twentyfive
3 years ago
^ Just a few days ago your favorite ex president called Putin a genius, so you are saying you disagree with Donald J Trump and are calling Putin senile, not trying to start a fight, just looking for clarity in your posts.
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mark94
3 years ago
FEMA has issued an advisory to be followed in the event of a nuclear attack:

“Get inside the nearest building to avoid radiation. Brick or concrete are best. Go to the basement or middle of the building. Stay away from the outer walls and roof. Try to maintain a distance of at least six feet between yourself and people who are not part of your household. If possible, wear a mask if you’re sheltering with people who are not a part of your household.”

This is not from a parody website. It’s an official statement directly from your federal government. If nuclear bombs start dropping around you, be sure and socially distance.

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Cashman1234
3 years ago
The comments from Condoleeza Rice are concerning regarding Putin.

This is just baseless speculation. What if Putin knows he has some sort of terminal illness and he doesn’t care about being the villain? He’s already stated he views the collapse of the former Soviet Union was a tragedy. This could be a last ditch effort on the part of a deranged man - who doesn’t have long to live?

I hope there are high ranking folks who can stop him - before he pushes it beyond the point of no return.
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skibum609
3 years ago
So, we're all doomed? Cool. My life has been full and wonderful.
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mark94
3 years ago
Now would be a good time to watch the movie Dr Strangelove. Stanley Kubrick initially intended it to be a serious drama about the threat of nuclear war, but it became a dark comedy when he realized the real threat was from the deranged old men who had their fingers on the burton.
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CandymanOfProvidence
3 years ago
One hand on the button, the other on the balloon knot.
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KhiryAddicus
3 years ago
Found this photo of Russian military column on reddit. Enjoy the photo then the comments...

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comment…
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Dolfan
3 years ago
Cash in your 401k's, sell your houses, spend it all on strippers, the end is neigh.

<sarcasm>
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
Yamiche Alcindor: White House 'revising' State of the Union speech to 'meet the moment'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpg9h0Qq…

SJG

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Lone_Wolf
3 years ago
@Dixi - we have Brandon because of all the geniuses who thought it would be cute to elect a reality tv persona for president.
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
Trump was the Realtity TV Persona

SJG
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CandymanOfProvidence
3 years ago
His producers suggested my own potential hit reality show: The AssCrevice
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
Russia Ukraine conflict: Cities hit by new wave of deadly strikes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaDbwjCe…

SJG
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blahblahblah23
3 years ago
Well, shit.
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
WATCH LIVE RIGHT NOW: Blinken holds news briefing on Russia invasion of Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQoX5v6l…

SJG
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
^^^ Americans expressing the desire to go to Ukraine and join in the fight.

So this is becoming like the Spanish Civil War.

SJG
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Mate27
3 years ago
^^^ get off the San Jose library internet and expand your organization of 1(you) to something larger than a sole individual charging windmills!
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
I have a handful of people now, but nothing written down, no money flowing through this. I am not yet even getting my $1 a year salary.

SJG
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Mate27
3 years ago
^^ have you filed the necessary paperwork to create the 501(c)3 yet? If not, then you still don’t have an organization. It’s another windmill to charge!
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
I have a handful of people, but no filed paper work yet. Other things need to happen first.

Remember, the purpose of the organization itself is not to take in money. That comes in from other enterprises.

SJG
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Mate27
3 years ago
^^ SJG I don’t think you’re doing the things you say you’re doing on here. In fact, Maury Povich has weighed in on this and says “that is a lie!!”
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
Well there is much Maury Povich does not know. And you don't know either. I do things exactly like the CIA does.
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TheeOSU
3 years ago
Lol !!!
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
Zelensky: ‘We’ve hardly slept for seven nights’ CNN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjiMp4_J…

Russia changes to more brutal tactics in Ukraine after "poorly planned operation," analyst says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mePpHqI…

SJG
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
Russian jets began entering Swedish airspace (HOLY SHIT!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvm7OvKK…

War will come to the other NATO members!
'Macron Is Playing His Own Game,' British Army Veteran Claims On The Debate | Russia-Ukraine War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsRjsswE…

Address expected from Zelenskyy in 15 min. He may now be in Poland

'Ukraine President Zelenskyy Has Fled To Poland Amid War': Russian Media | Russia-Ukraine War News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQN2o6-r…

‘My future is taken away from me’: Russians flee to escape consequences of Moscow’s war
https://www.yahoo.com/news/future-taken-…

Nato opposes pleas for No Fly Zone
Russia passes new laws to silence dissent, bans foreign news outlets | Ukraine invasion latest news (German DW 7hrs ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMCQ2QMM…

NATO’s Stoltenberg tells FRANCE 24 Russia's warning to Finland, Sweden 'unacceptable' (France 24 English 7hrs ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj9cPudf…

Ukrainians strike massive Russian convoy, Pentagon says (CNN 1 hr ago) (Ukrainians blew up a bridge to stop the Russian convoy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsBc_Vbt…

A Bayraktar TB2 Strikes Again, Hundred Russian Tanks Were Destroyed Near Ukraine Capital Kyiv! (2 hours ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwLOPyLO…

Russia passes new laws to silence dissent, bans foreign news outlets | Ukraine invasion latest news (German DW 7hrs ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMCQ2QMM…

Russia’s Unprecedented Shelling of Ukrainian Nuclear Plant Raises Fears of Another Chernobyl
https://www.democracynow.org/2022/3/4/ru…

Talking about Claus von Stauffenberg
"Col. Claus von Stauffenberg, left, looks on as Adolf Hitler welcomes Gen. Karl Bodenschatz on July 7, 1944. Von Stauffenberg attempted to kill Hitler on July 20 and was executed the next day."

Republicans, Democrats slam Lindsey Graham after he calls for Putin's assassination (Russians have brought crematoriums with them)
https://news.yahoo.com/republicans-democ…

This could be another way, besides quarantine on the Black Sea and No Fly Zone, for outside military forces to enter this.

Russian Environmentalist Speaks Out on Putin’s Attack on Antiwar Protesters & Independent Media
https://www.democracynow.org/2022/3/4/ru…

Ukrainian American Journalist: Putin’s Unjust War Is Emboldening Ukraine’s Far-Right Movement
https://www.democracynow.org/2022/3/4/fa…

The Russian Invasion Of Ukraine Is Like Something From A Movie: Peter Zalmayev (MSNBC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwV1HGGN…

On board a Nato surveillance plane monitoring Russian activity in Ukraine - BBC News (Boeing 707)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt5j2mrX…

On the Ground in Ukraine: A VICE News Tonight Special Report 4 hours ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk5DgCwd…

SJG

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CandymanOfProvidence
3 years ago
Looters in Ukraine getting street justice.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/…

Leave some sunflower seeds under these guys in case they make manure.
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wld4tatas
3 years ago
We're fortunate to have an experienced and stable man like Biden in charge, not the former idiot
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CandymanOfProvidence
3 years ago
Replace Carrot Top with Gallagher, at least he has some use with a sledgehammer/mallet
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mark94
3 years ago
Russia is in deep shit from a demographic, economic, and political standpoint. Putin is old and widely rumored to have cancer. The economy is non existent except for oil and other commodities. All the wealth is held by a small number of kleptocrats. Their population is aging. We’ve seen their military is comprised of poorly trained conscripts with aging equipment.

We don’t need to defeat Russia in an all out war. We’ve already won if we just step back and watch Russia collapse.
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Lone_Wolf
3 years ago
All this saber rattling is baffling. The oligarchs are billionaires. There has been no better time to be rich in the history of mankind.

Anything someone wants is a mouse click away. Why would they want to fuck that up with war?
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
PBS NewsHour live episode, April 15, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4lRAu2K…

SJG
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
Russia warns US of 'consequences' of Ukraine military aid: reports

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-warns-…

SJG
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Mate27
3 years ago
Unfortunately the Russians are gonna have to revolt and take care of Putin by death to stop this quickly. It’s so corrupt that hopefully embargo and financial choking will force them to back down, and the world needs to stop buying their gas and oil, which hasnt happened yet.

There is no predicting how this ends without global coordination. I think we need to contain activities to Ukraine, and take control of airspace in Eastern Europe and the Middle East. But what do I know, even the experts don’t know enough.
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
"Russians are gonna have to revolt and take care of Putin by death to stop this quickly."

I agree.

And I support President Biden.

SJG
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twentyfive
3 years ago
My guess is the Russians are looking for a way out right now, I think it would be smart for the Ukraine to lob a few missiles into both, Mother Russia, and Belarus, as the Russians launched som attacks from a base in Belarus.
We need to stop paying attention to Russian threats against us and issue a threat of our own, mainly if the Russians try to draw us into this. they should wake up in a few days with the seventh fleet cruising the Black Sea.
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Mate27
3 years ago
^^ unfortunately war hawks are calling for military action, and we need to prepare for that if it gets to that point, but Biden’s advisors are playing it cool for now, attempting financial choking first without European countries still buying a Russian energy. That needs to stop before the next move can be made, and Putin is using this war as a disguise to hide his other atrocities. He’s a murderer, and will always be a murderer until he’s taken out! Too bad you couldn’t deal with Putin f2f after breaking through your privacy fire wall. You could take his scalp!
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Mate27
3 years ago
Damn! Ninja’d again. That was for SJG.
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
For a lot of reasons, access to the Black Sea is limited. It is both in number of ships and in size of ships.

SJG
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mark94
3 years ago
Speaking of nukes, the cruiser that was sunk recently is thought to have been carrying two warheads. Now, at the bottom of the Black Sea.

If nuclear war ever starts, it will begin with some unknown mid-level officer fucking something up.
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twentyfive
3 years ago
Access to the Black Sea is pretty much controlled by Turkey
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
^ Yes, and they should have blocked Russia off very early.

If Russia's nukes are deployed widely, then it is true, this will go nuclear just for someone screwing up.

Cuba was like that. Battlefield Tactical Nukes, called FROGS, deployed and Moscow and Castro authorized commanders to use them. Extremely dangerous.

I am not sure though how we know what was carried on the cruiser Mokava.

SJG
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
2nd Phase of Russian Campaign Against Ukraine Has Begun!

Newshour today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3U1QN9t…

SJG
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Mate27
3 years ago
^^ where were you yesterday? We had better comments in discussion threads, but you didn’t join in on those.
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TheeOSU
3 years ago
Lol, he must have been terribly busy.
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TheeOSU
3 years ago
Like, you know, celebrating Easter like all communists do.
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
As “Battle of the Donbas” Begins, Russia Launches 1,200+ Strikes Across Ukraine; 7 Killed in Lviv
https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/19/r…

SJG
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san_jose_guy
3 years ago
PBS NewsHour live episode, April 20, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GrCQq6P…

the situation in Mariupol is bleak!

Russia test launched a new kind of Intercontinental Ballistic Missile.

Russia tests nuclear-capable missile that Putin says will give its enemies pause
https://news.yahoo.com/russiasarmat-ball…

John Kirby Pentagon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOxZ7R8l…

SJG
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