Have You Ever Been Told That OTC Is Grounds For The Dancer To Get Fired?
Oliver_Clothesoff_66
Maryland
Starting during the pandemic shutdown I have been meeting OTC with my ATF. She returned to her club once it reopened. She recently said that mgt has declared that meeting a custie OTC is grounds for dismissal, because of the loss of revenue for the club. So we are on the DL. Looking at it from their side this edict makes sense. And I assume it has always been that way and is not a recent course change. Since I did not partake in OTC until the pandemic this wasn't a subject that had ever previously crossed my mind. What has been your experience with this?
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But I don't see why you'd be open about your affairs to people in a club
The range of OTC tolerance can vary. At one club, the entire club is camera monitored out the wazoo and exchanging phone numbers is grounds for termination. At another club, one can blatantly walk out early on a shift with a customer (as long as staff is tipped out and you’re telling them you’re leaving). At another club, a dancer who worked at that club blatantly went in the club in street clothes with a customer who is a club reg and threw money at all the dancers there.
I've never known of a club that's cool with a customer and a dancer openly leaving the club together. The claim is that the club can be closed for being associated with prostitution.
San Antonio is definitely a more, erm, wild environment.
This is why don't connect dancers by name to extras or OTC in reviews.
They also have no boyfriend policies
I think this is a club specific type of practice - or possibly something that occurs in a specific area. I’ve had dancers at heavily surveillance clubs say they can’t exchange numbers for OTC. I’ve met up with the same dancers at more relaxed clubs, and they were fine with the exchange of details.
I think the clubs are primarily concerned with the loss of revenue associated with a customer and dancer moving OTC. A club can’t be seen as a place that supports prostitution, but unless a dancer offers OTC to a cop, or if there is an investigation targeting the club, the exchange of phone numbers in a private dance room is difficult to prove (even if there is some sort of video).
For starters, fear isn't always rational. A girl who is worried about losing her job if she does xyz is less likely to do it and more cautious when she does. This impacts everything from how free she feels to talk about it ITC to departure logistics if it is a same night meet.
What doesn't help is that these types of clubs tend to attract a lot of bitter self righteous girls who feel that it is their divine duty to police the activities of others. At the first whiff of a deviation, these girls will run their mouths off to management, other girls or both. It's not like it takes a jury trial to remove a dancer from the roster.
So because of all of this, quite often a girl needs to become comfortable enough with a guy to trust him to keep his mouth shut if she decides to do it. That's a tall hurdle to overcome, especially nowadays with so many pussies parading as men who are just too eager to please. IME that type of trust doesn't come easily, instead developing over a number of visits.
My ATF worked in a club where this threat was real and she took it very seriously. It was the only club for 30 miles in any direction and she was the sole caregiver and breadwinner for her young daughter. Eventually, after she retired, I took two other girls out from this same club as I had developed a rep for keeping my mouth shut. And you'd better believe that some of the other dancers, in their role as activity police, tried their best to coax information out of me, assuming that there must be something with all the time these same girls spent with me over several visits.
My own experience with a couple of clubs and OTC situations was we had to be fairly discreet about meetings. For example, one dancer told me to meet her at a regular bar down the street for the beginning of our OTC. Another said, "lets meet at...." Others were more discreet, we just exchanged digits and made the dates later. One time recently, I was texting a dancer in her club and we decided to meet up after her shift.
And no one owns those women or has any right to tell them what they can't do outside of the club.
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And girls pretending it's so hard to meet up is just a part of their hustle
But girls and guys hooking up is not the same as the entire private sector. It is the epitome of small scale, too small of a scale to try and regulate.
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I had a favorite who I had met a few times OTC and we had set a "date" for when she got off work one day. Always in the past we had left together but this day she asked me if I would leave before her and meet her at a parking lot down the street. She had another regular who was also there, and (she said) had been trying to meet her OTC forever and she just didn't feel like doing otc with him. She said it would break his heart if he saw us leaving together.
My only other regular otc dancer would just text me "when, where, and what room number?" after the first time. Both of the previous two took some some, convincing, and comfort level but the persistent 'Rat wore them down. It's been a long time since I've done OTC the day/night I've met a dancer.
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