VIP DFK in Washington

Regardless of location, DFK is pretty rare. So, if you can find a dancer who offers that, expect to pay extra for it.

Yeah, it’s pretty rare. It’s easier to find a dancer who will blow you than one who will kiss you. However, I actually think it is becoming more common. And I have never paid extra for it.

How common?

Regional perhaps?

I agree with doctorevil.

Isn’t DFK easier with escorts.

There’re some who specialize in DFK.

At least you’re guaranteed DFK when dealing with an escort that offers one compared to a stripper.

If I were you, I would save up money & go see an escort that specializes in DFK.

The best way to get what you want is to ask. If you're too embarrassed/shy to ask strippers might take advantage of you in other ways so the club might not be the best place for you.

I'm not sure what the criteria for uncommon is but I don't think its too too uncommon. Make sure you shower right before the club and put on A LITTLE cologne. Then tell the dancer exactly what you want. I always tip if I get exactly what I came in for that day but I also go to a club that customers outnumber dancers 10 to 1.

From dancer comments, it's pretty rare most everywhere. I'm sure there are exceptions, but many women, dancers or not, consider kissing to be even more intimate than sex, so it's reserved for people they actually care about.

It took my ATF almost a year before she was comfortable with it.

You are usually face to face and in kissing range at some point. I have had several scenarios

1. Ask. I have had girls tell me they don't kiss and I leave it at that. Or it is Ok and I try a PG kiss. If she kisses back, just keep going. Most time I find a tongue in my mouth within seconds.

2. Give a pack on the cheek or neck. See the reaction. Then try a peck on the lips. If a dancer does not want to kiss she will just pull back a bit. leave it at that. If she lets you, see where it goes.

3. I have had dancers take that initiative and start kissing me.

For me it is not as rare as people are making it out to be.

It doesn’t strike me as a great idea deep French kissing with a woman who just gave some other guy a blowjob actually it’s a horrible idea

“ It doesn’t strike me as a great idea deep French kissing with a woman who just gave some other guy a blowjob”

Yeah. That’s why I like to get to the club early.

The door has been opened

I'm sure it's only a matter of time until our resident authority on the subject will explain Front Room Makeout Sessions and how VIP is for chumps.

Accompanied of course by half dozen links to bondage pics

^^ Or two dozen, that fuckin' weirdo.

DFK is for FRMOS.....and you go to VIP after.

One TUSCL member always gets DFK--with goats.

It's not as rare as you think , the last few times I've gone into vip I've made out. Day shifts are the way to go, I have found better luck on day than night hands down. But like goldmonger said I asked. Maybe I got lucky who knows

The best kissing related intro I ever had was a girl that walked up to me, threw her arms around me and clicked her tongue stud on my teeth for about 30 seconds. Her pitch-- Imagine what I can do to your cock in VIP.

Lmfao @gold sold

I had an ATF who was a tough nut to crack as far as extras go. Gorgeous but a bit uptight in the back. Got her to start light kissing one time. Next time and every time after - full DFK.

Unfortunately, she got a little heavy for my taste and it ended.

Gotta admit, I usually regret getting carried away and kissing these women. If they kiss and/or blow me, they’ll kiss and or blow every disgusting PL they’re with. That’ll catch up to you.

Nobody would confuse me with Brad Pitt but it happens fairly often to me. Not a big deal.

Maybe I’m missing something - but this smells like a troll.

A steaming pot of fetid trolling…

This varies widely. It seems to make a big difference how you are dressed. We have someone who wrote specifically about thisl

Also, if the girl extends herself that way, it is probably because she is anticipating a relationship with you.

So it works on first visit, but not when you come back in a couple of moons later. So pick the girl you want to be seeing regularly.

And then why in the VIP room? With charm and generosity, start you DFKing session with her in the front room. Save the back rooms until you really need it, like when your pants are to come down.

SJG

What do you mean by generosity?

In my opinion, in a strip club, you should press money into her hand as soon as you get within arms reach of her. Or at the tip rail.

Remember, you have selected her, and this is how she pays her rent. So I would suggest $20 at a time. You could go up to the full per song dance rate per song. Maybe $20, maybe $40, maybe in some places $60. And there should be no house cut to this.

I would always do it with a little speech, "let me take care of you". And if she offers dances, "let me take care of you here while we save the back room until we are ready for it.

The idea is not to economize, it is to get her into following your lead.

For myself, having the girl in high heels is important, I want her to always dress like that for me. And, her shoes cost her money. So compliment her on the shoes and say, "I know that to dance here here you have expenses, let me take care of you."

That way it doesn't sound like you are trying to buy anything. And the money shows that you have good intentions, that you respect her, and that dealing with you she will not come up empty handed.

Remember, if things work, you will be pumping loads into her night after night. You won't need to do this in a strip club very often.

SJG

But you are buying something. Tipping a girl in a club is buying her time. And you should. She's working.

Paying her for sex is also buying something.

Girls who kiss for money are pretty much the extras girls selling a gfe. And you know you're not the only one. And don't know how many dicks she sucked before dfking you.

Icey, kissing in US Clubs, especially in the front room, is way outside the norm. A girl can do it, because she basically likes you. And when you do it you are telling her that you like her and want to make something happen with her. Women don't seem to have either emotional or physical boundaries, beyond kissing.

Sex workers are no more motivated by money, material gain, and social status, than are GFs and Wives.

If you don't like the women who work in US strip clubs, or if you consider them tainted, then just stay away from them, stay out of the clubs.

SJG

Sabrina

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In light of this review and its description of a hyper-friendly girl, the premise that FRMOSs are impossible in US clubs is preposterous!

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SJG

Okay and does she fuck for money in the vip coz she likes you?

She wouldn't do it unless at some level she did like me.

Sex workers interviewed always say that what they want is total discretion, and to handle the preliminaries themselves, from the very start.

Strip clubs are an American invention. Most countries don't really enforce the prostitution law. But in the US we do. But our courts have decided that the 1st Amendment protects the right to dance nude.

So we have strip clubs. But I think it is a big move forward that they are coming full circle, getting to be like other countries, straight up prostitution.

SJG

Hookers aren't hard to find I don't get the need for what if scenarios around prostitution.

Icey, you are the only one who seems to have a problem with them.

This country has generally made such stuff hard. Over all, and especially in strip clubs, this is starting to change. So the strip club of fantasies are starting to become real.

If you don't like the women who work in these places, just stay away from them.

SJG

Godess Nova

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I don't have anything against hoes. I'm saying it's delusional to think they fuck for money and give gfes coz they have feelings for the guys. They don't associate trapping with sex and they hustle to make a bag its not romance

But you are wrong, sex workers are ordinary women, they are really open, really cool. Especially when the guy treats them in a civilian manner, they love it.

If strip clubs were just buying dances and LDKing, and maybe alcohol and marijuana, I wouldn't even be willing to think about them.

But here, I learned from the Beloved Latina Escorts, front room high volume FS, and lots of kissing and everything, plus awesome home session. They are sublime!

Our advertised no touching clubs, they serve some good, a sexual aesthetic, and you can often get to know girls and easily see them outside. Without without money.

But it is such a huge move forward that our strip clubs are becoming FS. And Deja Vu, while not strictly preventing that, it still totally fucks it up with their clip joint modality.

SJG

Yeah but there's a difference between being a lover and a customer.

It is just a matter of how long you have known her and of how many times you have fucked her. It is up to you.

SJG

It's about the relationship dynamic.

Okay, but most women who are not seriously attached can be gotten into a relationship simply by demonstrating care and by pumping loads into them.

SJG

Yeah but only when you have a non working relationship bwith them

Negative, the fact that you are giving her money does not mean that that over rules other aspects of the relationship.

Now of course, if you object to giving them money, you should not go to P4P venues. But I have found that women who do P4P are more straight up than civvies.

SJG