Has NYC Become A Death Trap?
shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
It seems like over the past few weeks everyday there's an article about someone being shot, stabbed, mugged, or murdered in NYC, and this seems to be happening in better areas of the city.
WTF is going on? Muddy can you turn into Superman or something?
If you are liberal or conservative I think we can all agree that we don't like crime!
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last comment8 million people on an island 12 miles long,3 miles wide, not including the boroughs. Someone is getting killed every day based off those circumstances alone. The media has nothing else to do except report the NYPD & Kyrie don't wanna get vaccines.
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NYC doesn't want to be portrayed as similar to Chicago, but unfortunately it's just as bad.
Maybe not as bad as NYC in the 70's and 80's, but pretty fucking close.
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I honestly don’t think it’s Chicago. That is truly getting bad, they are going to have to bring in the troops at some point. It used to be just crime was mostly in the south and west side but now it’s going every where like the Loop. Car hacking are becoming a huge issue. I follow Chicago closely it’s sort of a morbid fascination.
There’s a just a ton of nonsense going on they we don’t have to put up with. The jail Rikers Island is having a hard time right now with overcrowding (google that) and some politicians want to empty it completely! And the bail reform law was just a disaster. And the thing you could always find a story in NYC because I don’t think people realize just how much bigger it is than any other city. For example Brooklyn population wise is about the same as Chicago. And just in the last 10 years NYC grew by a Boston by pop. The point your always going to find nonsense going on.
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Second paragraph is in regards to NYC not Chicago. I just love to type and not proofread wtf
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Hasn’t it always been like that?
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There always have been lots of high profile crimes there. But actual crime stats do not always go along with the level of outrage.
Felix Frankfurter was one who had dispelled this in the 1930s.
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The homicide bump is real and documented, and contra AOC, it isn't about people starving.
Most realistic cause looks to be the Ferguson Effect, when police can't do their jobs.
That said, it's said to be subsiding in the absence of BLM riots.
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Crime in the US is multiplied by the NRA and Republican Party doctrine of violent retribution.
But we also have a society which is quite harsh and a lot of people are just shut out. This puts people into conflict situations over things like money. Sometimes this results in death, often in incarceration.
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NRA is waaaaay down the lobbying list.
The cause of violent crime is violent criminals.
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"Felix Frankfurter was one who had dispelled this in the 1930s."
Was Felix Frankfurter affiliated with Werner Weiner?
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The Republican Party and the NRA are basically one. They use the NRA as the way of putting out their interpersonal doctrine. So we live in something rather like the wild wild west.
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"The Republican Party and the NRA are basically one. They use the NRA as the way of putting out their interpersonal doctrine."
Unsubstantiated opinion. Besides, NYC has a million and one gun restrictions.
I don't see how any New Yorker votes Democrat, after seeing the damage they've inflicted on the city that Giuliani and Bloomberg had to clean up.
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No, I am quoting Ralph Larkin mentioned above pertaining to school shootings.
People are still trying to undo the things Giuliani and Bloomberg did.
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Who is Ralph Larkin and why should I care about his opinion?
Yes they are undoing the things Giuliani and Bloomberg did, like creating safety and prosperity. We can only hope Eric Adams breaks that trend.
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You didn't answer my question.
Was Felix Frankfurter affiliated with Werner Weiner?
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Felix Frankfurter (November 15, 1882 – February 22, 1965) was an American lawyer, professor, and jurist who served as an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States. Frankfurter served on the Supreme Court from 1939 to 1962 and was a noted advocate of judicial restraint in the judgments of the Court.
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Most highly regarded, and he was the key guy to convince in 1954 Brown v Board.
Earlier he had made a name for himself for dispelling the idea of an NYC crime spree which the news papers were fanning.
And Giuliani's synical quality of life campaign amounted to a police state, and Bloomberg's press to privatize schools was a disaster, tearing at the very fabric of our nation. I am glad Liz Warren kicked his as!
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Well, I guess you don't care about a "police state" if you're dead.
If progressive policy was the answer, Chicago and NYC should be heaven. They haven't seen a conservative at any level in aeons.
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Giuliani and Bloomberg are reactionaries.
You don't lower crime rates with more cops courts and prisons. You lower crime rates by restructuring our society, making it so people are not alone or shut out, and by respecting people's self esteem.
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"You lower crime rates by restructuring our society, making it so people are not alone or shut out, and by respecting people's self esteem."
Your unsubstantiated opinion, belied by the laboratories of progressive policy that have turned to dogshit.
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No, progressive policy, where it has been allowed has helped. I say this in part because I have been involved in trying to get people's convictions overturned, and involved with others who are doing the same.
Our society is harsh and we lock up a larger portion of our population and for longer periods of time than any other industrialized nation. And CA is actually the most extreme.
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Giuliani lowered crime rates when he restructured society by arresting and prosecuting criminals you moron but as with everything else facts don't fit your agenda so you ignore them while you try to promote your ridiculous rants.
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"No, progressive policy, where it has been allowed has helped"
Yep, it made San Francisco into Shangri-la. Only with human shit everywhere, rampant property crime, and businesses fleeing.
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BTW, Cali should lock your ass up forever!
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He also made NYC into a military occupation zone. Very cynical, "Quality of Life".
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Last post for the creep!
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San Francisco has taken a more tolerant policy towards the homeless. Part of the reason for this is that it is not so dominated by Born Again Outreach Ministries. Also, this was during the COVID crisis, when most places became more tolerant for a while.
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"San Francisco has taken a more tolerant policy towards the homeless."
Look what it's gotten them.
LA's homeless camps have outbreaks of TYPHUS, last seen in Auschwitz and the Middle Ages.
If that's tolerance, tolerance sucks.
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....and by respecting people's self-esteem? Amazing that you get fucking dumber every day SJG. Progressives worship at the altar of failure. Every city run by a left wing democrat is a fucking laughingstock. Lori Lightfoot? Lmao, the fucking assholes got what they asked for. Elect a democrat; live in a shithole.
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It's a national, really a global problem. Pandemic means economic disruption means more crime. The overall murder rate is more a matter of concern than fear if you don't live in an area with criminal gangs. The main thing to be worried about is if you see a lot of reports of home invasions.
I don't know what the answers are, but I know what's NOT the answer: demonizing by group. Not cops, rich people, poor people, immigrants (authorized or not), Democrats, Republicans, any race. If you live in a safer neighborhood, you almost certainly don't know shit about what police policies and budget should be. We mostly have to listen to the victimized people in high-crime areas about how the police need to change. Yes there are too many straight up demonic, hateful people. But they are not a serious problem if the rest of us stand together against them.
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NYC is an overrated shithole
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Take it from the shithole expert! lulz
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Sadly, NYC won’t improve until there is a change in mayor. I think the progressive lame duck Deblasio made a mess of the city. He lost the support of the NYPD early in his term as mayor. He is a useless cuck.
It took years to clean up the city after it was in the hands of Democrats. If you want a reminder - watch the film Taxi Driver - and remember the filth that the city once was. Homeless all over the sidewalks - criminals on every street - nowhere for taxpayers to go without being accosted.
In my view, the city became even more amazing when it was cleaned up - as folks moved in and felt comfortable and safe. It’s going to take time to bring it back to a safe and sane state.
Rikers is a mess. I think Bernard Kerik had a handle on it. But it’s a complete shit show now. The folks housed there should likely not be allowed back in legit society. Bail reform has caused horrific consequences - it is a true failure.
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NYC is happy California exists because as long as the pricks in California exist new York can only be the second worst place in America. lets face it: The dem ocratic base is made up of criminals, leeches and foreign garbage.
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I am not a progressive snowflake - so my views may seem odd.
It appears the NYC mayor is afraid to prosecute real criminals due to his actions possibly being considered racially oppressive. He thought he could find success on the national platform, and he had such minimal support - it was laughable! His wife has a big charity - and that is a money pit - which will be plundered by the entire Diblasio family. It’s more waste.
I don’t understand the connection between progressives and not holding criminals accountable? The country and NYC - need to be bound by laws.
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So I can assume for "clarity" that the Republican base (in its entirety) represents all of what once made America great? LMAO
The America of my youth (1960's) offered good and bad opportunities to me in equal portions. I don't wax as poetically (as others) in a review of my past. It's always been up to each individual (ime) to seek more of the good from opportunity and to adapt to changing world reality.
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Capitalism has been broken since the 1870's. Now this COVID crises has pushed it to total collapse.
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Human societies have been broken ever since the sizes got into 4 digits.
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===> "It's a national, really a global problem. Pandemic means economic disruption means more crime. The overall murder rate is more a matter of concern than fear if you don't live in an area with criminal gangs...If you live in a safer neighborhood, you almost certainly don't know shit about what police policies and budget should be."
That fluffy nonsense sounded good in your head I'm sure, but in places like NYC, Portland, B'more and others the cause/effect relationships are pretty clear. If you reduce police patrols in traditionally higher crime and high value areas, you're going to have more crime. If you stop prosecuting certain misdemeanors, a lot more of them will be committed and some will escalate into felonies. If you let repeat offenders hit the bricks over and over because you don't want to hold them on cash bail, more criminals will be out on the streets. When you make an active effort to empty out your jails, some of the released are going to re-offend.
Cause and effect. This is not rocket science.
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The 1870's gave us the first world wide industrial recession, centering on steel production in the UK.
There was a world wide slow down of commerce.
But rather than recognize this and doing something about it, they pressured a lame duck Grant administration to end reconstruction in the South. So the South was to be a consumer base and the West was to be a raw materials base. It amounted to an internal third world.
And then of course there were wars to follow soaking up the excess productive capacity.
One who provided an alternative path was Henry George. But this was not taken.
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So instead, the 1880's, and extremely reactionary decade, ran on the bogus science of Social Darwinism.
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Don't worry shailynne I am on my way det wit da shit truck! I am dumpin loads all over NYC until da violence stops! We get dos fuckers in line.
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Its not Good People versus Bad People, its dealing with a collapsing society.
Dealing with causes of crime:
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