Has NYC Become A Death Trap?
shailynn
They never tell you what you need to know.
It seems like over the past few weeks everyday there's an article about someone being shot, stabbed, mugged, or murdered in NYC, and this seems to be happening in better areas of the city.
WTF is going on? Muddy can you turn into Superman or something?
If you are liberal or conservative I think we can all agree that we don't like crime!
WTF is going on? Muddy can you turn into Superman or something?
If you are liberal or conservative I think we can all agree that we don't like crime!
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Maybe not as bad as NYC in the 70's and 80's, but pretty fucking close.
There’s a just a ton of nonsense going on they we don’t have to put up with. The jail Rikers Island is having a hard time right now with overcrowding (google that) and some politicians want to empty it completely! And the bail reform law was just a disaster. And the thing you could always find a story in NYC because I don’t think people realize just how much bigger it is than any other city. For example Brooklyn population wise is about the same as Chicago. And just in the last 10 years NYC grew by a Boston by pop. The point your always going to find nonsense going on.
Felix Frankfurter was one who had dispelled this in the 1930s.
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Most realistic cause looks to be the Ferguson Effect, when police can't do their jobs.
That said, it's said to be subsiding in the absence of BLM riots.
But we also have a society which is quite harsh and a lot of people are just shut out. This puts people into conflict situations over things like money. Sometimes this results in death, often in incarceration.
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The cause of violent crime is violent criminals.
Was Felix Frankfurter affiliated with Werner Weiner?
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Unsubstantiated opinion. Besides, NYC has a million and one gun restrictions.
I don't see how any New Yorker votes Democrat, after seeing the damage they've inflicted on the city that Giuliani and Bloomberg had to clean up.
People are still trying to undo the things Giuliani and Bloomberg did.
SJG
Yes they are undoing the things Giuliani and Bloomberg did, like creating safety and prosperity. We can only hope Eric Adams breaks that trend.
Was Felix Frankfurter affiliated with Werner Weiner?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Fran…
Most highly regarded, and he was the key guy to convince in 1954 Brown v Board.
Earlier he had made a name for himself for dispelling the idea of an NYC crime spree which the news papers were fanning.
And Giuliani's synical quality of life campaign amounted to a police state, and Bloomberg's press to privatize schools was a disaster, tearing at the very fabric of our nation. I am glad Liz Warren kicked his as!
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If progressive policy was the answer, Chicago and NYC should be heaven. They haven't seen a conservative at any level in aeons.
You don't lower crime rates with more cops courts and prisons. You lower crime rates by restructuring our society, making it so people are not alone or shut out, and by respecting people's self esteem.
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Your unsubstantiated opinion, belied by the laboratories of progressive policy that have turned to dogshit.
Our society is harsh and we lock up a larger portion of our population and for longer periods of time than any other industrialized nation. And CA is actually the most extreme.
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Yep, it made San Francisco into Shangri-la. Only with human shit everywhere, rampant property crime, and businesses fleeing.
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Look what it's gotten them.
LA's homeless camps have outbreaks of TYPHUS, last seen in Auschwitz and the Middle Ages.
If that's tolerance, tolerance sucks.
I don't know what the answers are, but I know what's NOT the answer: demonizing by group. Not cops, rich people, poor people, immigrants (authorized or not), Democrats, Republicans, any race. If you live in a safer neighborhood, you almost certainly don't know shit about what police policies and budget should be. We mostly have to listen to the victimized people in high-crime areas about how the police need to change. Yes there are too many straight up demonic, hateful people. But they are not a serious problem if the rest of us stand together against them.
Take it from the shithole expert! lulz
It took years to clean up the city after it was in the hands of Democrats. If you want a reminder - watch the film Taxi Driver - and remember the filth that the city once was. Homeless all over the sidewalks - criminals on every street - nowhere for taxpayers to go without being accosted.
In my view, the city became even more amazing when it was cleaned up - as folks moved in and felt comfortable and safe. It’s going to take time to bring it back to a safe and sane state.
Rikers is a mess. I think Bernard Kerik had a handle on it. But it’s a complete shit show now. The folks housed there should likely not be allowed back in legit society. Bail reform has caused horrific consequences - it is a true failure.
It appears the NYC mayor is afraid to prosecute real criminals due to his actions possibly being considered racially oppressive. He thought he could find success on the national platform, and he had such minimal support - it was laughable! His wife has a big charity - and that is a money pit - which will be plundered by the entire Diblasio family. It’s more waste.
I don’t understand the connection between progressives and not holding criminals accountable? The country and NYC - need to be bound by laws.
The America of my youth (1960's) offered good and bad opportunities to me in equal portions. I don't wax as poetically (as others) in a review of my past. It's always been up to each individual (ime) to seek more of the good from opportunity and to adapt to changing world reality.
SJG
That fluffy nonsense sounded good in your head I'm sure, but in places like NYC, Portland, B'more and others the cause/effect relationships are pretty clear. If you reduce police patrols in traditionally higher crime and high value areas, you're going to have more crime. If you stop prosecuting certain misdemeanors, a lot more of them will be committed and some will escalate into felonies. If you let repeat offenders hit the bricks over and over because you don't want to hold them on cash bail, more criminals will be out on the streets. When you make an active effort to empty out your jails, some of the released are going to re-offend.
Cause and effect. This is not rocket science.
There was a world wide slow down of commerce.
But rather than recognize this and doing something about it, they pressured a lame duck Grant administration to end reconstruction in the South. So the South was to be a consumer base and the West was to be a raw materials base. It amounted to an internal third world.
And then of course there were wars to follow soaking up the excess productive capacity.
One who provided an alternative path was Henry George. But this was not taken.
https://henrygeorge.org/bob/
So instead, the 1880's, and extremely reactionary decade, ran on the bogus science of Social Darwinism.
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Dealing with causes of crime:
Manchin, Sanders are ‘talking’ as moderates and progressives continue stalemate
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