This strip club promotion system is fucked up

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The girls work in the positions that they want to work. But you are correct. Having nice looking bartenders and waitresses is kinda important. But if the dancers are not appealing, then you aren't coming back to that strip club.

It’s like saying that team sucks but they do have the best bench in league. Maybe it’s time to get there asses out on the field! Get them some of this playing time! At the very least make the staff danceable like some clubs do, everytime I asked no dice.

But you can't make a girl do a job she doesn't want to. I'm dating a new sugar baby now. She's actually a bartender at a strip club but I met her thru Seeking. She wants nothing to do with stripping but makes good money as a bartender. At first I was not keen on her actual job but now that I know her, I'm not worried at all about her work environment. Her personality would not work as a stripper. She would hate to have strange men putting their hands on her. She was actually a little hands off on our first sugar date.
But she makes good money as a bartender there and doesn't mind being in the club. To her, her actual job is not much different than bartending in any other high paced club. If that club manager tried to get her to switch to a stripper, she would quit and go to a different job.

In my experience it’s not unusual that the best looking girls in the club are the bartenders.

There was a bartender at Desire who I would have loved to start dancing. During a slow Sunday, I asked her if she'd ever thought about jumping up on stage and giving it a whirl.

She said she'd love to make the extra money, but then she'd overhears dancers talking about the guy who always tries to stick a finger in their butthole, or the guy who always twists their nipples and always looks "surprised" that it hurts them, or the guy who grabs on to their throat a little too tightly and won't let go, etc., and so on.

And she also knew that those guys weren't every guy in the club, but the reality is that she knew she wasn't built to deal with those guys even one time. She was fine getting a slice of strip club money from those guys while having a bar as a solid barrier between them. And that was her sweet spot on the spectrum of money versus dealing with the pervy public.

I can understand that. I may not like it, but I get it. Anyway, she's not a bartender there anymore. She moved on during Covid.

What kind of mileage did the club offer?

There's a club here where the bartenders are always smoking hot 18-19 year old women. Management pays awful and treats them mediocre. But these are college girls who are fine taking tips for looking cute in a strip club but don't want to get naked much less grind on random dicks.

It's kind of how lingerie models are always a step hotter than porn girls.

"Her personality would not work as a stripper."

What personality does one have to meet to be a stripper? She's already a sex worker.

I'm not sure that working as a bartender at a strip club makes her a sex worker. I guess you could say she is a sex worker by being a sugar babe, but a lot of girls don't view it that way. She is one of those. But the part of her personality is the lying to the PL's. A good stripper has to make every man she sits with feel like they are the Bomb. She couldn't do that. I just know that. It's actually a gift that some girls can turn that on and some can't. This girl is too blunt and honest.

Warrior can make his own argument, but this question from Nina prompts some questions.

Are all sex workers cut from exactly the same cloth? My impression is that, while the behavioral denominator is "willing to exchange money for sex", that doesn't mean that every sex worker will do well in a strip club environment, where the expectation is that a stripper winnows through a field of guys to pick out the ones she wants to deal with. As opposed to escorting, or even sugaring, where the woman can control the pace and volume to a greater degree.

I'll claim ignorance right off the bat. This is obviously a choice I've never had to make...

But I know different people who work in the same field, but some love a large, bustling office, while others prefer working in smaller, less frantic environments.

@Warrior ... I know that there's a spectrum when it comes to sugaring, but for the most part I consider sugaring to be sex work (how the SB sees it notwithstanding...).

My baseline is that if the money (or "gifts", "allowance", or "support") stops, and that leads to the sex stopping, then that's sex work.

I would argue that the waitresses/bartenders often do sex work as well. I spoke with one waitress a couple days ago at my club who was frustrated because she was helping to cover dayshifts after the club fired somebody, when she usually works nights. And the club wasn’t being quick enough to find the replacement, in her opinion. On her usual schedule, she could rely on her established regulars to come in and buy bottles and take care of her specifically. I could be wrong, but I strongly suspect you have to be good at making customers feel like they are the bomb to keep that up consistently.

On the other hand, I think some strippers prefer using a different approach than fawning over customers to make money. Cubanas are an easy example 😁

^ You're not arguing with me. But some girls do view it differently. This girl is looking for one SD and have a long term relationship. Many of those girls will not let a man touch them unless they think there is a opportunity for that type of a connection. But we got kinda off the subject.

This girl is HOT. She works as a bartender in a strip club. She won't strip. But this club has no problems hiring attractive dancers though.

This discussion made me think about the phrase “Too pretty for porn”, it might also apply to “Too pretty to be a stripper” that is why so called 10s are 🦄 unicorns...

Urban Dictionary defines as:

“The idea that there is a subset of women who are actually too good looking to ever appear in pornography. It arises because even if these particular women did want to make a living off their looks/body they would have many more and better options than porn, for example acting or modelling.”

I hear you. That said, my personal opinion is that if the sex stops at the same time the money stops, then it's sex work. I personally don't think it matters if that relationship exists with one guy or 100 guys.

But I can see how a woman could squint really hard and see it a different way.

Cj, That topic probably deserves it's own thread.

Warrior, I've met an SB waitress in a strip club, too. Do you really think she's not taking offers from other men coming into the club? As I've been saying for weeks, you're getting quite goofy in you're old age. What you're doing is far closer to prostitution than "dating."

The prettiest regular I ever had started as a waitress, saw how much more money the strippers were making and then switched over to stripping. After a few years of stripping, she switched back to being a waitress in the strip club again.

She couldn't really handle being a stripper. She liked me and was always friendly to me but told me a lot of the customers were disrespectful and pervy. Many of the customers tried to go beyond just a lap dance while they were with her without asking her if it was ok first. Her worst experience was a customer who wanted her to pretend she was his 14 year old daughter while giving him lap dances. Some girls can handle being a stripper but some can't. So it's not surprising to see the prettiest girl in the club being the waitress or bartender.

^^^Look I tried to work with her but damn it isn’t a man entitled to his fantasy yeesh.

what I learned is like most entertainment venues, the most money comes from selling drinks (which may be the most expensive edible resource). If the bartneders are so hot, why bother with a stripper if you can spend time with a bartender ONLY if you absolutely buy drinks. You don't have to buy drinks to get a stripper's attention. And its less stigma being a bartender than a stripper. Technically your clothes didn't come off.

At least that's what I've come to understand from looking at starlets NYC

I love Warrior's logic here: A bartender goes online and fucks his 60-yr-old ass for money -- and he comes here explaining that she's not a sex worker (like those strippers who get groped for a living).