Judge throws out Jacksonville FL dancer licensing requirement

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• georgmicrodong

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  4 years ago

  I wish it would still considered "free speech" here in Louisville. :/
• Hank Moody

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  4 years ago

  I’m pretty sure we don’t have dancers’ licenses here in MD. The first amendment was used in a case maybe 25 years ago to declare unconstitutional the Baltimore city law that tied the strip clubs’ liquor licenses to prohibiting nudity. Dancers should be able to express themselves and their first amendment rights without the restrictions of clothing. That’s why we have full nude alcohol clubs in the city. Unfortunately, extras are not a protected first amendment right.
• rickdugan

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  4 years ago

  ===> "The first amendment was used in a case maybe 25 years ago to declare unconstitutional the Baltimore city law that tied the strip clubs’ liquor licenses to prohibiting nudity."
  
  Over the years I think that clubs in other areas have tried that but lost. Apparently while the government cannot restrict "content", they do have a balanced right to reasonably regulate "time, manner and place" as long as they are not overly restrictive. Judges in other cases have not found an alcohol restriction unduly restrictive if nude clubs are still allowed to exist, which is why so many states have combinations of topless/pastie with alcohol and nude juice bars.
• rickdugan

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  4 years ago

  The problem with the Jacksonville ordinance is that it dictated, through the licensing process, which girls were allowed to express themselves and which were not. The judge felt that the city did not have the right to make those decisions. This was a federal court judge, so hopefully clubs in other cities and states will take a look at this and push back as well.
• twentyfive

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  4 years ago

  If the city decides it needs the revenue it’ll just rewrite the law so it’ll pass, I’m sure Jacksonville is just interested in the revenue I sincerely doubt anyone involved gives a rats ass about protecting the public or the dancers.
• rickdugan

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  4 years ago

  ^ I doubt it's the money. J'ville isn't Miami. All but one of the clubs are fairly small, so I can't imagine this being a revenue bonanza for the city.
  
  Jacksonville has been hostile to the clubs for a long time now and it has become worse in recent years. They raid the clubs pretty much annually and, this last time around, they started hauling girls to jail for nit picky ordinance violations instead of issuing tickets. The ordinance violation jailings only stopped when a group of girls fought the charges and the judge threw the cases out in disgust at having the court's time wasted for that nonsense. This ordinance is just a next step escalation of their attempt to put the squeeze on the clubs.
• twentyfive

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  4 years ago

  ^ “ I doubt it's the money. J'ville isn't Miami.”
  
  Damn straight Jville isn’t Miami, it’s basically St Louis with an inferiority complex, and please buddy it’s always the money LOL
• rickdugan

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  4 years ago

  ^ Meaning only that it is not a strip club tourism destination. I'd take J'ville over that shithole with palm trees any time.
  
  But you're wrong about the primary focus of the city. If you read the ordinance you'd understand. It would have severely limited who could dance and allowed the Sherriff to revoke dancer licenses for almost any ticky reason. It was about control. The one downside of Jacksonville is that it's the southeastern tip of bible belt territory and we have a lot of devout Baptists in charge who hate the clubs, including a number of females.
• Dolfan

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  4 years ago

  Palm beach has it, I don't think its a revenue thing, the fee is like $75 or something and the person collecting it was stealing a big chink of the money for years and no one noticed. I wish they'd get rid of it, I'm often told by dancers in broward they go down there to dance instead of staying up here because they don't want to be included in a public list of dancers.
  
  I wish some clubs here would fight it, but I doubt it. The burden mostly lies on dancers to acquire the licenses although the clubs obviously have some administrative overhead keeping proof and whatnot.
• twentyfive

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  4 years ago

  ^ Like I said St Louis with an inferiority complex, you just said so yourself
  Southeastern tip of the Bible Belt LOL, it’s the fuckn buckle, y’all wish you were Miami, any place north of Daytona in Florida is the same as Mississippi
• rickthelion

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  4 years ago

  Bravo to my brother from a hairless ape mother for bringing this to everybody’s attention. We ricks are behind all kinds of freedoms. Especially the freedom of needy females to engage in unspeakable activities with ricks - ricktivities if you will. ROAR!!!
• rickdugan

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  4 years ago

  LOL 25. Miami can sure be a neat place to visit, but I'd never want to live there. It's the city version of that sleazy club where you go to blow your load before returning to your nice neighborhood where your family is safe and your kids are well educated in highly rated schools. Kinda' like the party girl who you dump several loads into when you're single, but who you'd never consider actually marrying. Yup, Miami can sure be fun, but I'd never want to call it home.
• rickthelion

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  4 years ago

  Of course freedom doesn’t excuse non-rick assholes from getting the wildebeest treatment if they piss us off.
  
  We’re also all for the rest of you weirdo pervert deviants getting to engage in activities. Just remember that they will never be as badass as RICKTIVITIES!!!
• rickdugan

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  4 years ago

  You're overplaying it now Mr. Lion. The first post was funny, but the add-on felt forced. Any troll carrying the Rick label should always be the best that a troll can be. 😉
• twentyfive

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  4 years ago

  Funny I feel the same way about J’ville, the way I see it is J’ville is that gal that was always available a bit chubby true but after marrying her she turned into her mom, a fat dowdy baby factory and before you tell me about not living in Miami trust me it has a lot more to offer by way of opportunity, than St Louis south.
• rickdugan

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  4 years ago

  ===> "and before you tell me about not living in Miami trust me it has a lot more to offer by way of opportunity, than St Louis south."
  
  ^ I'm sure it does. The party girl is always a great time - until she ain't. :)
• Muddy

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  4 years ago

  The link didn’t work for me. But that ordinance with the 21 and up only in Jvillle is just the worst. Other stuff you can try to work around but that one will just kill the talent so much and not even allow an entry into this world. Roll that shit back
• rickdugan

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  4 years ago

  A link to a story from a different source:
  
  https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/…
• Papi_Chulo

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  4 years ago

  This licensing stuff seems like more government-control BS which often just leads to at best unintended-consequences and at worst abuse at the hands of power-hungry bureaucrats
• rick_the_cheesestick

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  4 years ago

  If there’s one thing ALL the retards in Floriduh can agree on, it’s that cheesesticks are delicious and that all the Ricks are awesome. Whether you’re dipping your cheesesticks in honey mustard sauce in Jacksonville or sprinkling cocaine on them in Miami, deliciousness is just a deep fryer away.