Biden to hit the campaign trail

winex
https://www.news-journal.com/biden-to-re…

Now this is interesting - Biden is coming out of his basement. The internal polls must not be looking good. The problem is that he is a human gaffe machine. Dating back to the Democrat primaries, he polls best when he is seen least.

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mark94
4 years ago
Last I heard, he said he would be leaving the basement in 10 days. So, with 60 days to go, he’s spending 10 days doing what exactly ?
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
I heard his campaigning is gonna consist of him riding around various cities in a pope-mobile
winex
4 years ago
Wait and see how long he stays on the campaign trail. I think it all depends on the internal polls.

But with a recently announced trip to Minnesota combined with this story ( https://www.duluthnewstribune.com/news/g… ) about 6 Minnesota Democrat mayors endorsing Trump, I am guessing that the internal polls aren’t looking good.
winex
4 years ago
@Papi - as long as he speaks, it creates opportunities for failure.
mark94
4 years ago
If the rumors about Trump support among AAs are true, it’s all over for Joe.
winex
4 years ago
It’s not a rumor, I posted a poll showing growth of support among blacks and hispanics during the convention. Here is a link. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/…

Note: This poll is among registered voters, not likely voters. But still the same, the margin of error is 1.83%. Let’s say that it is on the minus side and that Trump’s support among blacks is just over 22% instead of the 24% the poll showed - that would be devastating. Anything above 10% hurts Democrat’s chances badly.
pistola
4 years ago
Who would you rather have taking your order at the McDonalds drive thru - Trump or Biden? Trump would probably be dickish but Biden would mess up so bad.... Lmao
winex
4 years ago
I don’t know - I kind of like the thought of Biden spending the next 4 years working a McDonalds drive-thru.
pistola
4 years ago
And speaking of voting, go figure. All the NBA asshats feeding into the MSM and getting their news from Twitter and FB.... only 20% are registered to vote.

https://www.mediaite.com/sports/report-n…
mark94
4 years ago
I have a feeling that a lot of professional athletes are going to have much lower incomes starting next year. Poor babies !
Warrior15
4 years ago
I want to see more of this :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhcgmwj3…
mark94
4 years ago
The biggest swing voting block is married suburban women. Their biggest issue is safety for their family. As soon as Antifa expanded outside the urban core, they shifted millions of votes to Trump’s column.
Cashman1234
4 years ago
I think Biden is damned if he gets out of his basement and damned if he doesn’t.

A candidate for president needs to get out and show his face. He needs to connect with the people. He needs to get his policies out there so everyone can see how they will help.

I think he is in trouble. He’s not as sharp as Trump. Regardless of whether Trump is correct or honest - he’s got a quick answer. That makes him seem decisive.

Trump is not a great debater. He’s harsh and confrontational, and he’s not intellectual. That might be what folks want, because it’s entertaining, and it provides a winner (a pro wrestling type of winner).

I am interested to see debates. I hope Biden comes across as quick and smart. I can’t believe he’s as mentally slow as they might paint him.
winex
4 years ago
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-new…

If Biden is having to defend Minnesota, he is in trouble. The last time the Democrats lost Minnesota was to Richard Nixon in 1972.
Cashman1234
4 years ago
Lol! If strongholds start moving away from the Dems, it’s going to be a slow agonizing electoral loss for Biden.

I’m still amazed that in 4 years of impeachment and lots of other political wrangling - all the Dems could come up with is Oops-I-crapped-my-pants Biden!

Couldn’t they pay Denzel Washington $100 million to run?
mark94
4 years ago
The latest Zogby poll shows Trump with 20% approval among Blacks. That’s twice what he got in 2016. It’s also higher than the 11% his advisors say he needs to win.

Wasn’t Kamala supposed to lock in the Black vote ?

A Democrat needs 90% of the Black vote to win the Presidentcy.
winex
4 years ago
@Cashman - I think that 2020 caught the Democrats by surprise. When the unemployment rate was at a 50 year low, no one wanted to run against Trump. So you had a cast of has beens and never wases running for the Democrat nomination.

Then the pandemic came along and created opportunity.

But they had no one positioned to take advantage of it.

That having beensaid, I can't think of a single person on that side who would be attractive in 2024.
mark94
4 years ago
During the Obama years, he did nothing to build the bench. Centrist Democrats lost their congressional seats. Pelosi looked out for herself. Democrats lost governorships and state legislatures. There is no one in the pipeline. The future is AOC and the squad.
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
The Dems are now accepting the fact that their bet is not paying off w.r.t. allowing violence in Dem cities and assuming Trump would get all the blame - now all of a sudden they are calling out the violence but still doubling/tripling down that "it's Trump fault" when it's been Dem politicians not doing anything about the violence and accusing Trump of being a fascist for wanting to bring in federal-troops to stop the violence the Dem politicians are allowing.
misterorange
4 years ago
The Dems make an argument about as good as elementary school children. Unfortunately many Americans are only as smart as pre-k students.
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
I wonder why Biden did not mention this example of "systemic racism" with the hashtag "While Lives Don't Matter":

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status…
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
The all-out assault on American culture continues - the anarchists seem hell-bent on taking over the educational-system and turning young people against America:

"... A bill before the California Senate and also needing a signature from Democratic governor Gavin Newsom would force all school districts to offer their high school students a semester-long ethnic studies class starting in 2025, likely with a model curriculum that currently states the course should “build new possibilities for post-imperial life that promotes collective narratives of transformative resistance” as well as teach the students the “four I’s of oppression.” ..."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/ca-poised…
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
"... In a report issued Monday, Kenosha, Wisconsin, police said it has arrested 175 people in connection with riots and looting in the city following a police-involved shooting that left a 29-year-old black man in critical condition ... Of those 175 arrests, more than 100 were of individuals who live outside of the city. Of all, 44 different cities were represented, according to local Kenosha media outlets ..."

"... Kenosha police say a number of individuals were arrested for things like burglary, possession of illegal drugs, and possession of a concealed weapon ... Police also seized “more than 20 firearms.” ..."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/kenosha-p…


More evidence that this is an organized and funded anarchist movement vs "a spontaneous emotional reaction of the people"
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
"Rand Paul Pushes For More Investigations Into Violent Rioters"

"... Paul also dismissed the notion that these were just angry residents of D.C. The horrifying scene he endured in the short walk he tried to take back to his hotel was clearly organized, he said. Paul said the rioters wore fresh clothes, were well-equipped, and he believed many of them to be from out of town ..."

"... This seemed like coordinated work, he said, with significant financial backing. The benefactor of the violence and threats, he said, needed to be investigated ... "This also isn't normal, there's something going on here. . . the FBI needs to be involved," Paul said. "My feeling is that there's interstate criminal traffic being paid for across state lines, but you won't know unless you arrest them... I promise you that at least some of the members and the people who attacked us were not from D.C....they were paid to be here." ..."

"... But, Paul said, no one will discover who is controlling the rioters until they are arrested for their criminal acts, which simply isn't happening ... Paul said simple questions of the criminal rioters would lead to answers that could help the FBI determine who is really in charge. Questions like, who pays for their airfare, their fancy hotels, and their equipment would lead investigators to answers quickly, Paul said ... "Somethings going on here and it's much bigger than people think." ..."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/elliebufki…


More reason for Trump to be elected IMO so we can get to the bottom of this anti-America anarchist-movement and squash it.
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
The Marxism continues:

"... A Catholic student at Florida State University who was serving as student senate president at Florida State University is suing the university and student senate officials at the school because he was forced out of his position after stating in a private group chat that “BlackLivesMatter.com, Reclaim the Block, and the ACLU all advocate for things that are explicitly anti-Catholic.” ..."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/catholic-…
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
"Chicago Faces Record $1.2 Billion Budget Shortfall"

"... Lightfoot added that “all options are on the table,” though she refused to get into specifics. In the past, the city has proposed a computer lease tax, a streaming services tax, and a higher restaurant and entertainment tax as stopgap measures for budget shortfalls. This shortfall, though, is so unprecedented, the city is likely to consider more extreme measures, like a property tax hike ..."

"... Lightfoot is also pressing for a federal bailout for Chicago and, on a larger scale, Illinois, as part of the fourth coronavirus relief package being discussed now in Congress. Democrats passed bailouts for cities and states impacted by COVID-19-related shutdowns and did not specify that the economic damage being addressed had to be the direct result of the pandemic. Republicans, however, have said there will be no bailout for cities and states — especially those like Chicago and Illinois, whose budget woes long predate coronavirus ... Chicago did get an estimated $470 million in federal funding from the third, bipartisan coronavirus relief bill, the CARES Act, passed back in early May ..."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/chicago-f…
pistola
4 years ago
Lori Lightfoot looks like Beetlejuice’s sister and she is coming off as a total dumbass. This the one that enacted a shutdown then ‘got her hair did.’
mark94
4 years ago
Public Pensions in Illinois are massive. They promised huge benefits to unions over the years but never funded them. They are underfunded by tens of billions. Maybe hundreds of billions. Would they consider modifying the benefit formula to a normal level ? They never have. They keep hoping the federal government will bail them out.
winex
4 years ago
@Mark94 - sadly that problem isn't confined to Illinois.
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
Lightfoot & di Blasio - dumb and dumber of mayors
misterorange
4 years ago
You know what I'm so sick of hearing about? It's how Obama and Biden presided over "the longest period of economic growth" in history. Biden used this ridiculous line again just a few minutes ago.
I don't even mind them saying it as much as stupid people actually believing and repeating it. The truth is they presided over "the slowest economic recovery" in history.
It's like if an Olympic runner came in dead last and then started bragging about running "the longest race" in history.
twentyfive
4 years ago
^ In 1998, as the story goes, Trump told People, “If I were to run, I’d run as a Republican. They’re the dumbest group of voters in the country. They believe anything on Fox News. I could lie and they’d still eat it up. I bet my numbers would be terrific.”
misterorange
4 years ago
@25
So I take it you are disputing my statement that it was "long" because it was "slow?" Obviously you were responding to my comment (you added the little ^ mark) but you said absolutely nothing with regard to my post.
twentyfive
4 years ago
I'm just pointing out that your boy thinks we are all stupid you are buying in because you referenced "stupid people actually believing and repeating it"
he thinks you're all stupid, I'm voting to prove him wrong, you obviously are going to try to prove that he's right.
winex
4 years ago
Not that we needed any additional proof, but voting for Biden is proof that you are stupid.
gammanu95
4 years ago
Joe can't win. The dems, libs, and socialists have screwed up so badly in 2020 , that no swing voter will risk a Pres Harris, or worse yet, Pres. Pelosi.

Come on out of your basement, Joe, and face the music.
ime
4 years ago
“stop your boast about never being seemed at what you.” Joe Biden 2020
twentyfive
4 years ago
@windex I wasn't aware that we have a Mensa member honoring us on this site
winex
4 years ago
@TwentyFive - there are a lot of things that you aren't aware of.

The definition of the word "fungible" for example.

Or the difference between "inferred" and "implied".

Or who was President of the United States in 1968.

But that having been said, Mensa really isn't a big deal. Intelligence follows a normal distribution. If you selected 50 people at random, you could expect to find one person that is qualified to join.

That is one advantage that you have over not just me, but over most people. You can easily be impressed by even unimpressive things.
twentyfive
4 years ago
^ You certainly haven't impressed me or anyone else
You're still a twat
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
The left's bias keeps on w/o shame:

"Famed Attorney For Rittenhouse, Sandmann, Has Twitter Account Locked"

"... Wood, furious, told Fox News that he intended to sue Twitter and its CEO Jack Dorsey, asserting, “I’m going to take Jack Dorsey’s ass down. He has been abusing the First Amendment of this country for his own agenda.” ..."

"... Wood stated that his account was locked for “glorifying violence.” He continued, “I knew they were going to censor me because I’m sending a message of hope. I’m sending a message of truth. And I’m sending a message that Kyle Rittenhouse is innocent.” ..."

"... “Wood said he’s been accumulating ‘a mountain of evidence’ to support a lawsuit against Twitter for discriminating against users based on political speech,” Fox News noted ..."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/famed-att…
winex
4 years ago
@TwentyFive - I have no need to impress you. The only need I have to do with anything of your kind is to scrape it off the bottom of my shoe if I accidentally stepped in it.
mark94
4 years ago
Biden is a horrible candidate. The first debate will be embarrassing. It may be a knockout punch.

The riots/protests were a huge political mistake. Trump has pounced. The TV ads are devastating.

The announcement of a vaccine in mid October will be a huge boost to Trump’s election prospects

So, things are going to get weird and desperate. The elite and deep staters know their way of life is at risk. Anything could happen in the next 5 months.
mark94
4 years ago
He was also clearly looking down and reading his answers throughout. He’d go 20 seconds at a time staring down with no eye contact.
seanking
4 years ago
Jascoi
4 years ago
i Absolutely hate the Donald.
yes I voted for him last time.
with all the shit he’s been doing I may not vote at all for a president .
I wish tricky Dicky (nixon) was still in the running.
I didn’t like him but at least he had some sensible ideas.
ameliaami
4 years ago
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mark94
4 years ago
“Lol Joe Biden’s staff posted ‘I’m answering your questions. Ask me anything!’ on his Instagram story 14 hours ago and they have yet to post any questions or answers,” wrote Abigail Marone of President Donald Trump’s campaign team to Twitter.
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
His supporters are too busy rioting to be posting questions
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
I think he needs another Cardi B hard-hitting interview
twentyfive
4 years ago
just a stupid question for those fans that Trump has, Woodward destroyed him in a book a few years ago, now he sits and spends a few dozen hours with Bob Woodward for a second book, where he's getting ripped to shreds again, and the point is twofold, first Bob Woodward has all of this on tape with the Presidents consent to tape this so he can't deny the facts as Woodward presents them, second just common sense would say once bitten twice shy.
your president is obviously not playing with a full deck. Did this man consent to this thinking he could con Bob Woodward, like he's conned most of you. I mean really doesn't this make any of you Trumpublicans have a second thought, or are y'all so invested in this crap you can't see the damage he's doing.
winex
4 years ago
The alternative to Trump is Biden.

Biden was an idiot long before dementia set in.

Sometimes decisions are that easy.
ime
4 years ago
Winex nail on the head. Democrats and their party hate America and want to destroy it, fuck them and not letting them destroy more with any power they can get.
twentyfive
4 years ago
^ My response to that is really simple, as much as you think Biden is an idiot, you just think that, it may or may not be correct.
However It is known and irrefutable, that Trump is crazy and a real thief, and a serial prevaricator, that man won't tell you the truth about the simplest thing, and he is such a narcissist just look at the way he treats our military, every high ranking officer that worked in his administration doesn't trust him that is well known and irrefutable.
twentyfive
4 years ago
By the way respond directly to this point, what in the world possessed this moron to sit with Woodward a second time after the first time was a disaster for him
winex
4 years ago
@TwentyFive - there are things that are subjective, and there are things that are objective.

Among the things that are objective is the long string of gaffes that Joe Biden has committed throughout his career.

Take the plagiarism scandal that caused him to drop out of the Presidential race in 1987. Intelligent people don't plagiarize. They have the ability to formulate intelligent thoughts on their own.

And it wasn't a one time thing. One characteristic of intelligent people is that they learn from their mistakes. When looking at search engine behavior for that thread I started on Google bias in predictive search results, I found that there were a couple of incidents in this campaign cycle of Joe Biden plagiarizing speechs from others.

So on to your question - why did Trump grant Bob Woodward an interview?

The honest answer is "I don't know".

Similarly, I don't know why Joe Biden, while looking directly at a guy in a wheel chair told him to stand up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkr-lePr…
winex
4 years ago
Another key consideration that should help people decide who to vote for are judges.

I have stated on this board before that I think that Trump could have accomplished a lot more if he had a different personality. But one area that he can't be faulted in is his selection of judges. (Both at the Supreme Court level (where at least 2 seats will be opening up over the next 4 years) and in the Federal Courts)

Getting strict constructionist judges in place is key to starting to reverse a lot of the damages that liberals have caused to this country over the last 75 years.
twentyfive
4 years ago
Like I have said in the past, I don't expect to convince anyone to vote for anyone, I will not vote for Trump and I want to see him gone that's my right and I am not ashamed of my intense dislike.

I think Trump has caused more damage in the short time he's been in office than anyone in my lifetime, this rise of extreme liberalism is a direct response to his personality, this country is not extreme left or extreme right, but his needing the extreme right wing to win, has caused the opposing reaction and the rise of the extreme left, that you see manifesting itself on your nightly news. If he hadn't so openly supported the ultra right wing groups, the moderates would have had a chance, but his support of the bullshit like in Charlotesville, and his egging on of the athletes and promoting Confederate memorials, turning Colin Kapernick, Lebron James and many bothers into martyrs which is where this stupidity begins and ends, The man is weak that is why he is always punching down, we have never looked so feckless as we have in the last few years, I mean really engaging with his opponents after winning the presidency in stupid fight over crowd size, really set the tone

and here we are 3 years and 8 months later still having tempests in teapots, from sharpie altered hurricane cones of destruction to wearing a mask, I mean fuck all man wearing a mask isn't supposed to be a political statement, and with any other man in the White House, it probably would be an irrelevancy at best, but your guy has made his time in power into total chaos, I long for a time when we have a president that does his job and focus is on the American People,

We have not had the luxury of calm since this man was elected, instead he has the entire country wondering what is going to happen next. I will not be sad to see him gone, I'll settle for four years of a calm idiot just to get rid of this guy.
skibum609
4 years ago
To most people and that includes me, this election has jack shit to do with the two worst candidates I have seen in almost 4 years. We are voting against each other, not for anybody. The problem I have is the despicable lies in left wing news and the idea that Trump created this when it was Obama and his blatant racism and cheating in office that opened the door for Donald. It makes it impossible for me to ever consider the party of foreigners called Democrats. There is one thing people still don't get: There is no America and there hasn't been for almost 20 years. The traits that made this country great are not traits that many people under 40 have or ever will have. Popular traits today (victim, ex-con, scammer; gig worker; activist etc.) are all guarantors of long term failure and lack of production. Rude awakening is coming for everybody. In historical terms it is the fall of 1856 and we are about to elect James Fucking Buchanan, no matter which asshole running wins.
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
4 MORE YEARS
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
I think the Democrat-party has gone so extreme that many (silent) conventional Dems are thinking "are you people out of your fucking minds"
mark94
4 years ago
Trump thrives on conflict. Creative, high achievers often have that personality. Steve Jobs, for example. You find executives like that in the movie industry. Creative conflict.

You saw that in Trump during the 2016 campaign. The experts said that approach was laughable. Then, sumnabitch, he’s President

Why’d he give Woodward a second interview ? Because conflict is where he thrives. Always battle ready.
winex
4 years ago
@TwentyFive - you are mischaracterizing things if you say that Trump caused the divisiveness that is plaguing this country. That divisiveness w as present well before Trump was elected in 2016.

It was reflected in the left's refusal to accept the results of the election. (How many times have you heard the phrase "Not my President"?)

A lot of people think that the left was wasting time because they didn't support Trump from the start with the B.S. Russia-gate investigations. While it is true that the left caused enormous harm to the administration by investigating something that their own campaign organizations made up, that wasn't the start of the of the deep state interfering with the business of the nation. The actual start of the coup attempt against Trump was the investigation into fund raising for the inauguration.

He was under investigation before he even took office. While there is nothing wrong with investigating someone who actually breaks the rules, these were ridiculous fictitious charges from the start. And the people conducting the investigation knew it from the start.

So while you are clearly wrong about the origin of the divisiveness n this country, so is Skibum.

We didn't turn against each other during the Obama administration. The catalyst for the politics that we have today date to the (George W.) Bush administration when Democrats turned against the President and our country through a series of treasonous actions in an attempt to gain from difficulties in Iraq.

If you, or others, want to talk Iraq, I am more than happy to discuss that subject in a separate thread. It is a subject that I am very well versed on.
twentyfive
4 years ago
So your characterization of the conflicts that this guy has, is ridiculous fictitious charges, that's disingenuous at best, BTW I never said that Trump caused the divisiveness but this I will say he's the only president in recent times, to exploit this to the extreme and he has, and attempt to drive a wedge in to the heart of the divisions. and I stand by my statement he's stupid, and it shows, sitting for an interview with a guy who wants to take you down. Trump is the same as Clinton in that respect, they both think they are the smartest guys in the room and that is their fatal flaw.
winex
4 years ago
@TwentFive - who is “this guy”? Are you referring to Bob Woodward? Or are you referring to dozens of other stories that have swirled around over the past 4 years?
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
Those huge Cental American migrant caravans we had 2 or 3 years ago where thousands were going towards the border all at once demanding entry, I always had the feeling that was orchestrated by Trump's enemies as one more attempt to destabilize his administration ("so you don't like immigrants huh?" - bam here you go") - it just seemed orchestrated and financed
twentyfive
4 years ago
^This guy was a reference to Trump and all of his pathetic lies and controversies, in a normal time Trump would have been laughed out of town as the ass clown he has been his entire life
Woodward is the guy who wants to take him down
Is that clearer ?
winex
4 years ago
@TwentyFive - is that clearer?

Not really. For references, here is the sentence with the "this guy" reference. It's kind of run on.

So your characterization of the conflicts that this guy has, is ridiculous fictitious charges, that's disingenuous at best, BTW I never said that Trump caused the divisiveness but this I will say he's the only president in recent times, to exploit this to the extreme and he has, and attempt to drive a wedge in to the heart of the divisions. and I stand by my statement he's stupid, and it shows, sitting for an interview with a guy who wants to take you down.

So if "this guy" = Trump, I believe that anyone who has paid attention to the string of ridiculous charges brought up against him over the past 4 years, and then retracted shortly after would realize that we are witnessing serial slander.

The latest example is the story from the Atlantic that said that the President was showing extreme disrespect to the honorable men and women who are risking their lives to protect our freedom.

Like the boy that cried wolf, when you hear the something over and over and over again, and it always ends up being a lie, eventually you stop paying attention to it. (On a similar note, the left is making the same mistake calling everyone that doesn't bow to their will a racist. The word has lost its meaning)

If "this guy" = Bob Woodward, then my answer is different. I've been too busy today to dig into details of the latest bombshell. But I have glanced at the headlines on Drudge.

I do believe that it is reasonable to believe that the administration didn't reveal everything it knew about COVID-19 in the early days of the pandemic. (If there is more to this story, then I am unaware of it)

The reason I find this story credible is because I remember early advise from the CDC stating that masks were not needed. The truth is that masks were in short supply and the administration didn't want them to be as scarce as toilet paper was last spring. If medical workers didn't have access to PPE, the results would be disastrous.

Also, on a more personal level, your speculation that I am a meatpacker who was laid off is incorrect. I have the kind of job that takes multiple paragraphs to describe - a simple title won't do. But the closest I can come to a simple title is "data scientist". Anyway, in the data science community, research was going on in the early days, and I was aware of the value of masks well before the revised guidance went out. (Note: I wasn't leading these studies, but I know people who took the initiative to do so outside of their normal work) As a result of some numbers I have seen, I ended up sourcing some KN95 masks from China. And despite the stereotype of conservatives not wearing masks, I think not wearing masks around people during the middle of a pandemic is insane.
twentyfive
4 years ago
Then you missed my point I'm guessing that you also are one of those folks that suffer from that smartest guy in the room syndrome, I am a simple guy I run a business in the construction industry, I know a lot about Trump from my early days in NY when he was a spoiled little rich kid, a kind of smart ass Richie Rich, all I know is Trump is one of those guys that ran to his daddy all the time, and he never was successful at anything until he got that TV show the apprentice, his casino's went bust, he never finished a project his claim to fame Trump tower was a Harry Helmsley project that he got lucky with, Trumps MO has always been scam the bankers into a loan that is too big to fail, then when it fails as his projects always do, the bankers are forced to prop him up or face losses that would wipe out the bank, that's why no one in NYC would touch his projects so he was forced to get banks in Germany and Russia, because those banks had hidden partners with a need to get money out of Eastern Europe and Russia, I'm tired and really don't care to write a novel but if you were really interested I'll get you the names of a few articles written by smart authors like Tom Freidman of the New York Times and some by Jimmy Bresiln now deceased formerly a columnist for the N.Y. Daily news

Just for the record I'm not making the stereotype of conservatives not wearing masks, that was all Trump and it's mostly bullshit but you have folks buying into the hype assaulting store employees over the issue, I believe there was even a shooting because some idiot didn't want to wear a mask, and Trump fed that,
winex
4 years ago
Actually I like to think that I make other people suffer because I am the smartest guy in the room. :)

But back to Trump.

In the 2016 primaries, the initial candidate I supported was Scott Walker. I believe he would have made an excellent president. He had several Calvin Coolege like qualities. Very quiet, and very competent.

After Walker dropped out, I switched to Ted Cruz. I think that he also would have been excellent. He is definitely a conviction conservative.

But I was left with a choice of Trump or Clinton.

Like I said in a much shorter reply, some times the choice is that simple.

That having been said, I have been pleasantly surprised by Trump's performance in office. He has picked good judges. He has embraced deregulation. And tax cuts are always nice.

But I am also aware of his personal flaws. I believe that if his personality was more like that of Scott Walker, he could have achieved a lot more.

Do I wish that Trump would have dropped out and that Mike Pence would have taken his place?

Sure. But that didn't happen.

So my choices are to vote for an imperfect president who has largely followed a sound plan in office. Or I could vote for someone who wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed before his mental decline set in.

Sometimes a choice is just that easy.

mark94
4 years ago
We know why Joe seldom leaves his basement and reads his answers from a teleprompter when he does. The real mystery is why Kamala has had so few events and refuses to take questions. One theory is that she knows she is on a sinking ship and doesn’t want to be blamed when it goes down.
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
^ yeah - I can see why they don't want Joe to be answering questions - but they are doing the same shit w/ Kamala - their handlers are even rude about it and just about tell reporters to get the fuck out - their handlers don't allow any questions or just a couple that are probably pre-approved and then they rudely and aggressively cut off everyone else and terminate the session.

I think the Dems have "been playing not to lose" all along - seems they figure they'll let Trump make all the mistakes while they just stand on the sidelines and win - playing-not-to-lose often times bites you in the ass at the end.
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
"... On Wednesday, audio surfaced of Los Angeles County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer saying that K-12 schools in America’s largest county likely will not open until after the November election ..."

One more obvious way the left is willing to do *anything* if they believe it will affect Trump - they have decided they will not open schools prior to the election no-matter-what b/c they think it will help Trump - they are so obsessed they are willing to let anarchists and rioters wreak havoc and let bodies to pile up due to police-defunding and tying police's hands; all b/c they wanna beat Trump.
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
"Dem Staffer Among Dozens Arrested In Portland Riot"

"... “The police arrested Kristina Narayan, who is legislative director for the top Democrat in Oregon’s House of Representatives, along with 58 others during a riot that began Saturday night and continued into Sunday morning, according to a Portland Police Bureau report,” the Free Beacon notes. “Narayan has worked for House Speaker Tina Kotek since 2016.” ..."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/dem-staff…
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
The all-new-and-improved "New Afrikan Black Panther Party" - mostly young upper-middle-class white-kids:

The New Afrikan segment starts at approx the 3:45 mark but the whole segment is pretty-interesting commentary me thinks:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/…
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
This is how much our country sucks:

"Military helicopters rescue more than 200 people trapped by wildfire in California"

The fire department had told them to jump in a nearby lake b/c it was too-dangerous for the fire dept to get to them - the army heard of these folks' predicament and volunteered to go in and put themselves in harms-way - yeah, we need to bring down America b/c it's "irredeemable":

"... “We started getting information about how many people were out there, how many people to expect, and that number kept growing. So we knew that it was a dire situation,” Rosamond said ... Rosamond called the conditions “extreme” and said it was one of the most difficult flying missions in his 25 years as a military pilot ..."

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/military…
winex
4 years ago
@Papi - The men and women who risk their lives defending the people of this country are extraordinary. If you have ever been fortunate enough to work with them, you will find yourself repeatedly asking yourself where we find some incredible people.
twentyfive
4 years ago
Yes the military is full of exceptional people, but Trump got his daddy to purchase a set of bone spurs to keep him from being called to serve. Trump certainly didn't risk his life for anyone.
Yes our country is terrific and has many exceptional people not so much our current President.
winex
4 years ago
@TwentyFive - Do I like what Trump did to get out of serving his country during the Vietnam war?

Of course not.

I believe that if he had served in the military at any point in his life, he wouldn't have the character flaws that are obvious to anyone that is objective.

Now lets do a little comparison and contrast?

There is a candidate running for President who graduated from college in 1968. In high school, he was a football player. Though he didn't play football in college, he was active in sports throughout college. He worked as a life guard at a community pool during summer.

When he became eligible to be drafted after graduating college in 1968, he received a medical wavier.

But it wasn't for bone spurs, it was for asthma.

Any guesses who I am talking about?

You got it - Joe Biden.
twentyfive
4 years ago
I say fair enough, but we have had other Presidents that didn't serve for various reasons, but we have never before had a President question the validity of the sacrifice repeatedly, and with such malice, opt out of a ceremony to honor WW11 dead because of a rainstorm, that many other world leaders attended. or knowingly boast that he knows more than the Generals, or defame a decorated former POW or pick quarrels with Gold Star mothers and fathers, or berate the wife of a fallen soldier.

Sorry you really aren't going to change my vote at this point, I doubt I'll change yours.
ime
4 years ago
If you believe that he said that about soldiers you are a fucking idiot. It has been thoroughly debunked, shit they even asked John Bolton who hates him and he denies it. If you tried to hand in a paper in 9th grade using 4 anonymous sources you would fail. Then again the owner of magazine that published is a Biden mega donor, and amazingly this "story" just comes out near an election and perfectly coordinated with campaign ads. Get the fuck out of here.
winex
4 years ago
I simply don't believe the allegations made in The Atlantic. They sound like the words of reporters for The Atlantic more than they do the words of President Trump.

The number of bogus stories about Trump over the past 4 years have been astounding. (Actually more than 4 years because they date to the fake intelligence report that was supposedly from a UK intelligence official about golden showers and similar things)
winex
4 years ago
@IME - speaking of the Atlantic - do you know who owns it?

Steve Job's widow Laurene Powell Jobs.

She is also the largest benefactor of the Biden campaign.
twentyfive
4 years ago
Like I said I doubt I will change a singe vote here and I know personally how Mr Trump makes up things out of less than whole cloth, I believe what I believe and I know what I know, anyone is free to disagree and I really don't care to go on in endless circles, I said my piece you said yours, I didn't attack anyone here because I don't very much care whether you agree with me, I have earned the right to say my piece many times over, I'm not questioning your integrity don't doubt mine.
@ime you are the fucking idiot, not because you're rong which you are, but as person making an attack on my freedom to speak my mind, is just a baseless defamation of my character.
ime
4 years ago
get fucked you thin skinned baby
ime
4 years ago
I never said you couldn't speak your mind please keep speaking your fucking TDS nonsense.
ime
4 years ago
You get mad that everyone doesn't believe every nonsensical thing you say. So no one else gets free speech or to say things that go against your opinion, ok.
twentyfive
4 years ago
^ Real intelligent response, LOL I'm thin skinned you are stupid, I have a thick enough skin to speak my mind here .
ime
4 years ago
Do you because you fucking bitch and complain at any criticism you get from anyone who doesn't agree with you.
twentyfive
4 years ago
^ sure thing Bobo
ime
4 years ago
Oh good one. How fucking old are you? Just go back to burying your head in the sand, and everyone else is wrong and only you and your TDS mush brain can be right. Wah you attacked my free speech because you won't accept my bullshit talking point. I didn't censor you or take what you said down. Fucking jerk off.
twentyfive
4 years ago
LOL
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
Bloomberg plans to spend $100-million in Florida to defeat Trump;

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mike-bl…
winex
4 years ago
So far Bloomberg spending 9 figure sums to influence the race hasn’t been very effective.
mark94
4 years ago
Joe Rogan has offered to moderate a 4 hour debate between Trump and Biden. Trump has accepted. No response from Biden’s camp.
san_jose_guy
3 years ago
san_jose_guy
3 years ago
Biden is reprehensible in how he talks about COVID, acting like it is a threat to health and safety, talking about how the unvaccinated should have to wear masks, like medical matters are not private, and talking about how people will know whether or not you have been vaccinated. People need to tell Biden to fuck off.

What he should be talking about is Universal Health Care, that will reduce mortality and increase life expectancy more than the covid precautions and the vaccine.

SJG

Deep House, Ibiza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goH-9MfQ…
san_jose_guy
3 years ago
What Biden is saying is completely untrue, he is deliberately trying to create hysteria and persecution.

I also suspect that Alex Brenenson has been forced off the air.

https://www.thewrap.com/alex-berenson-fo…


SJG

Biden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7WwDLzG…
Call.Me.Ishmael
3 years ago
Right. Time to hid this thread, too.
JamesSD
3 years ago
This thread aged like fine wine.

[[Chefs kiss]]
san_jose_guy
3 years ago
So long as it is not about COVID and the vaccine, Biden is sounding pretty good.

But, he just wants to reverse Reaganomics. This is 40 years latter. If we want things to start to work again, we need to go further than that.

SJG
san_jose_guy
3 years ago
It is the Right and their Supply Side Economics Fraud which have held back our economy and made things difficult for so many.

The difficulty is making people understand this and support Social Democracy, instead of supporting more people like Donald Trump and Ayn Rander Paul Ryan.

SJG
san_jose_guy
3 years ago
It seems that President Biden wants a docile population.

This is why he keeps fanning the flames of COVID hysteria. So it is killing people, but our death rate is not increasing. And when are they going to use vaccines to eradicate the flu?

If people were a little bit rational, they would demand Universal Health Care, and retroactively to dismiss their medical debts.

But Biden came into office having listed Adlai Stevenson, George McGovern, and Michael Dukakis, saying, "They were all very liberal, AND THEY ALL LOST."

And then in his Cincinnati Town Hall he said that 30 years ago his own party was going too far, meaning too far to the left.

Well, many of those who voted for him would have preferred someone like Bernie Sanders. Biden wants to dismantle Reaganomics, and this is necessary. But we also need to go further, because there continue to be productivity increases in Agriculture, Manufacturing, and the Service Sector. So more and more people are being forced into Uber and Walmart. Or they become fraudsters themselves and go into the Ponzi Scheme Finance Sector.

Up through the mid 60's, the US was basically in sync with Western Europe, moving slowly to the left, towards Social Democracy. Canada's first national health care system was patterned after our Medicare system.

But then Richard Nixon unveiled his Southern Strategy, breaking up the New Deal Coalition by using the '64 Civil Rights act and the '65 Voting Rights act to use coded racism to draw the votes of White Southerners. Since them our politics has been moving further and further to the right, until it has reached a breaking point.

What Biden and Sanders want to do is necessary, but we also at this point need more.

SJG

Hanna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjNbqp5…
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