How to avoid being shot by a cop

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winex
The beauty of this advice is that it works regardless of what color you are. It is truly race free.

The first step to take if you want to avoid being shot by a cop involves learning 3 simple facts:

1) Cops are legally authorized to detain people. They don't need proof that you committed a crime, suspicion is enough. If you don't wish to be detained, you may ask if you are being placed under arrest. If the answer is "No", then you can inform them that if you aren't being arrested, then you would like to go.

Note: If you tell them that you want to leave, they may place you under arrest. An arrest is not a conviction, and facts can be straightened out later.

If you just leave without saying anything, you need to become more familiar with the rules stated in this friendly guide. You have initiated the first step in a process that could result in you being shot (regardless of what color you are)

2) Cops carry guns (and other weapons)

3) Sudden moves make cops nervous. Cops are taught to take control of situations. If you are detained by a cop, de-escalate the situation. Let your actions and your words clearly point out that you have no desire to offer any resistance.

They are people just like you and me, and they want to go home at the end of their shift. Something like a sudden lunge into your car and a reach toward the floorboard may result in you being shot.

If you think that there is nothing wrong with sudden moves, then you need to refamiliarize yourself with the simple concepts explained in this friendly guide.

And that's all there is to it. Written in terms that even IceyLoco can understand. (Though admittedly this is well over the head of RandomMember)

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TheeOSU
4 years ago
"(Though admittedly this is well over the head of RandomMember)"


Lol !
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Warrior15
4 years ago
I'm thinking a very important factor would be to not commit crimes yourself.
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Jammaster
4 years ago
“Cops are legally authorized to detain people. They don't need proof that you committed a crime, suspicion is enough.”

I’m pretty sure that’s not true. They can’t legally stop you just based on suspicion.
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winex
4 years ago
@Warrior15 - an excellent suggestion!
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winex
4 years ago
@Jammaster - careful now. You may want to re-read the guide. It is race neutral.

Also, for reference purposes - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable…

When you re-read the guide, note that I mention that you can ask if you are being arrested, and inform the cop that you wish to leave if you aren’t being arrested.

This conversation should always occur before you leave. Leaving without having the conversation first could lead dow a path that is not recommended by this guide.
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WavvyCain
4 years ago
Just don’t be black and you won’t have to worry. If you’re white you can even wave your gun at a cop or run at them with a knife and nothing will happen.
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winex
4 years ago
@Brehnamedwavey, you are very likely to be shot by a cop. It isn't because you are black. It is because you are stupid.

If you aren't capable of reading the guide yourself, you should ask someone to read it to you before it is too late.
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Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
As Jason Whitlock put it - paraphrasing:

"we don't have a crisis of cops killing people - we have a crisis of people not obeying the law"
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loper
4 years ago
Tell that to Philado Castile. Pulled over, cop asked for registration, told cop clearly and calmly that he had a legal, registered gun in the glove compartment, was shot dead in front of his child as soon as he opened the glove compartment If you think that blacks aren't a target of cops then you haven't been paying attention.
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winex
4 years ago
@loper - if you think that telling a cop that you have a gun in your glove box, then reaching towards the glove box is a good idea, then you need to read the guide.
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NAAAASTY
4 years ago
Funny how those being shot at and those defending the shot, take ZERO accountability into how things play out. There's always multiple points of escalation that could've been mitigated before guns or lethal force gets used.

NAAAASTY
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georgmicrodong
4 years ago
Copsuckers abound.
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WavvyCain
4 years ago
Jason Whitlock is a coon! Why even quote that dude 😂
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doctorevil
4 years ago
“ I’m pretty sure that’s not true. They can’t legally stop you just based on suspicion.”

It is true. It must be “reasonable” suspicion based on facts, but suspicion is enough to briefly detain you. It is not enough for an arrest, which requires probable cause.
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winex
4 years ago
@Naaaasty - you hit the nail on the head. As the likely recipient of bullets, you should have all the motivation in the world to de-escalate things.

It doesn’t matter if you were in the right or not if you are dead. Those issues can only be settled if you live.
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winex
4 years ago
@Brehnamedwavey, I’ll bet that in your mind Jason Whitlock is a racist. Unlike you....
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WhiteyJackson
4 years ago
Yo Whitey J here just wanting to know from Breh how many kids he has from how many different women.

Signed,

A proud cracker ass mothafucka
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WILLYSGOTAHUCOW
4 years ago
Be honest you posted this because it makes you feel comfortable. Thats how cnn and foxnews stay in business. Pick a polarized side that makes it easier for people to sleep at night. When the aliens come in December im not putting a fight. The human race doesn't deserve the planet.
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Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
"... Tell that to Philado Castile ..."

The officer involved was tried - and after all the evidence was examined in a trial, he was acquitted of all charges
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goldmongerATL
4 years ago
It is not up the person being detained to rule whether the stop or detention is justified. At the time of the incident, it is solely the officer's determination. The fact that he has stopped you means he has already made that determination to investigate you further. You cannot argue that point. Arguing and escalating can get you killed, white or black. He may be found LATER to have not been justified.

People are getting killed because they have the mistaken idea that if they do not think there is justification, they are free to disobey and resist.
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winex
4 years ago
@GoldmongerATL - good post. You are not likely to be shot by a cop.
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winex
4 years ago
@Willysgotahucow - I am not sure if you are likely to be shot by a cop or not. But I am relatively certain that you are destined to be probed by aliens.
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misterorange
4 years ago
Funny... I've been arrested twice in my life. Both times the cops joked with me and even gave me a cup of their lousy station-house coffee which, under the circumstances, wasn't that bad. Obviously it was just because I'm white, not because I acted cool, knew my place, and didn't do any fucked up crazy shit.
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winex
4 years ago
@MisterOrange - wait a minute! Are you implying that there is some kind of correlation between how people act and how they are treated?

If word of this ever gets out, Black Lives Matter would unravel!
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misterorange
4 years ago
@winex
Nah man, it was just cause I'm white. Enough with your conspiracy theories.
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misterorange
4 years ago
They even asked me how I like the coffee... cream? sugar?
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misterorange
4 years ago
And they slipped me a ham sandwich through the bars.
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rogertex
4 years ago
Good suggestions.

Out of 100 regular people 5 are assholes.
Out of 100 cops, 15 are assholes.
85 are normal cops doing their job. That should not be discounted.
But 15 is higher than 5. That should be looked at. And fixed.
Us regular people should not fight based on extremes.

Over the years - fat has accumulated in LE.

An example: I come out of a bar and see 4 cops have placed a young woman in hand cuffs. All are white. No race involved. Woman is pleading to be set free because she did not do anything.

I softly ask one of the cops - a 20 year old, short and chunky female cop "What is the matter here"
Cop (without looking at me): "If you say one more word, we'll arrest you too"

I was completely taken aback. Never happened ever before. But I followed winex suggestions and backed off. Not before I took that female's last name and noted her description. Next week I filed a complaint and specifically asked that this behavior be discussed with the cop and she should be provided training on how to behave with people they are supposed to serve.

Well the police department did not think there was much in that complaint. Probably they were right. But since I was polite, firm and methodical - the chief felt I should be put in touch with their Citizens Support Officer. A nice guy. I took his word when he said that this complaint was discussed with the female cop. He added that this female cop's father was a cop and so was her grand father.

Now - I feel I had not gone far enough. It is such entitlement and a lack of respect for people that several cops are pulling the trigger or using force when in many (not all) cases, a bit of co-operation can diffuse the situation.
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Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
With all due respect @rogertex

But IDK why you feel you were entitled to interject in a police arrest and demand and answer - if this kinda behavior is allowed then the cops are gonna be having to deal with civilians getting involved every time an arrest is made and it's gonna be chaos.
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rogertex
4 years ago
Fair point. Arrest was already made. All 5 were waiting.

LE needs to uphold accountability, "while" doing their job. We all do in our jobs. If that is dropped, tyranny happens.

Given the situation at that moment, that cop could have responded better. Most cops do. They are trained to manage LE and manage people.
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NAAAASTY
4 years ago
Just bc one arrest has been made doesn't mean the job is done. An investigation can still be ongoing for other perpetrators or parties involved. Not to mention paperwork and/or reports to follow. What looks like finishing to you, is in fact beginning for them.

NAAAASTY
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Jascoi
4 years ago
under the situation I would try and remain calm and just flow with the cop.
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WILLYSGOTAHUCOW
4 years ago
sounds like a lot of excuses being made for the clear racism in this country. Start getting comfortable being uncomfortable.
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casino
4 years ago
You have to be a special kind of stupid to think that following a cops order will affect whether or not a cop shoots you. In fact in certain cases, doing what a cop asks you could quite possibly get you shot and you’re better off just staying still with you hands up.

Charles Kinsey was shot in Florida with his hands up.

Philando Castile did exactly as asked and was shot.

Daniel Shaver was also blasted while doing what a cop asked him to do.

William Green was shot while handcuffed.
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casino
4 years ago
@Misterorange, some people arent bitches and their place is a citizen of the US that deserves respect. A cop is no more than a citizen with a badge.
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Icey
4 years ago
They need a reason to detain you. Secondly they don't have the right to kill or beat you. The problem is broken window policing and the militarization of the police
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georgmicrodong
4 years ago
Just get in the boxcar and you won't be harmed. Everything will be fine.
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winex
4 years ago
@IceyLoco - as mentioned in the guide, suspicion alone is enough reason to detain you - at least for a little while. I'm not talking extended periods.

Secondly, they have weapons and if they feel threatened, they will kill you. It doesn't matter if you are black, white, yellow or red.

The guide is about how to avoid being shot by a cop.

I suggest you read it before it is too late. You are likely to be shot by a cop.
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winex
4 years ago
@Casino - nothing I say can help you. You are too dumb to be saved. You are likely to be shot by a cop.
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oscarlomax
4 years ago
D.L. Hughley wrote a book about this. Very funny and very informative.
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gammanu95
4 years ago
As the article below states, the cops tried verbally stopping Blake, physically restraining him, and using tasers. All failed as he went to his car to retrieve a weapon.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jacob-blake…
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goldmongerATL
4 years ago
@rogertex - The police have no right to tell random strangers like you why I am being arrested. They open themselves up to all sorts of civil liabilities.

you see all these idiots (not you) filming arrests now. they all think they are investigative reporters. The get in the cop's faces and demand to know why some stranger is in handcuffs or was tased.

None of your business, even if you need it to make your Instagram post more compelling.

I may go out and try it myself to be sure. The next time I see a cop writing a ticket on the side of the road I am going to pull over, start filming and scream at the cop and demand to know why his is writing that ticket. Oh, and I am going to call the cop a racist if he is white and pulled over someone black.

I will let you know how that turns out.
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WavvyCain
4 years ago
A lot of racist are on this site wow. Dude is really bragging that his ass sat in back of a police car and they gave him coffee. You are a sucka! They did that not because of you kissing their ass but because you are white. I’ve seen black people fear for their life and the police will still fuck them over. Yes, Jason Whitlock is a coon! He doesn’t represent any black American. Y’all love him cause he’s a bootlicker and he agrees with y’all points. No one likes and respects him but you crack ass crackas. Proves my point! U White people have added nothing positive to this country that u stole from. Raped slaves and even now sleep with your own relatives! Y’all are disgusting and smell like wet dogs! White trash all in these discussions!
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skibum609
4 years ago
^You are mentally ill. What a fucking loser.
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Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
"... I softly ask one of the cops - a 20 year old, short and chunky female cop "What is the matter here" ..."

You can tell @rogertex is white
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goldmongerATL
4 years ago
So casino's logic is that in rare exceptions you might be shot even if you are trying to comply with instructions, so you shouldn't bother to comply? That complying has no effect on whether you are shot?

"Interesting" way to look at it.

At least he included a drunk white guy to show it does not just happen to blacks.

Should we list the MILLIONS of people that complied with police and were not shot?

This guy Blake would be home playing with his kids (maybe after posting bail) if at ANY TIME before reaching into the car with the blacked out windows he would have complied with the police rather than resisting.
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skibum609
4 years ago
Casino is more than a stupid loser; he's a liar. Philando Castillo, who had 35 prior motor vehicle stops told the Hispanic Police Officer he had a gun; reached for it; was told to stop; reached for it; and died. 100% that stupid fucking arrogant loser's fault he is dead. I look at 98% of these shootings as stupid asswipes killing themselves, or in the case of criminal asswipe Jacob Blake, paralyzing himself.
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WavvyCain
4 years ago
Ski keep talking bruh, like I said before if u not pulling up stay quiet before I kill ya racist ass myself
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skibum609
4 years ago
You're just another internet pussy breh. My wife is down the Cape this weekend and you can meet me in Rhode Island for a few beers, pretty ladies in the C.R. and then we can go outside and you can try to not embarrass yourself. You couldn't harm anyone other than a six year old girl, who sadly, with you being a pussy, you would kill in a drive by. That was cultural, not racial busta.
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misterorange
4 years ago
@Brehnamedwavey
"Dude is really bragging that his ass sat in back of a police car and they gave him coffee."
Yeah bro. Those cops treated me like a king because I'm white. They even brought your mother in to suck my dick until I made bail.
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skibum609
4 years ago
Breh is even fucking dumber with pms lol.
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winex
4 years ago
@Brehnamedwavey - shouldn't you be out getting shot by a cop? It's your only chance to amount to anything in life.
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WhiteyJackson
4 years ago
Lol the only thing Breh is gonna roll up on is a Popeyes with a coupon in hand.
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winex
4 years ago
And then he is going to be disappointed to hear that he needs some cash in addition to the coupon.
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orionsmith
4 years ago
Best interaction with the police is no interaction.
Last time I was stopped I heard "PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE STEERING WHEEL". I did nothing wrong in my opinion but felt like I was in Nazi Germany. They eventually let me go with a warning because I had done nothing wrong. Makes me wonder if today's cops are taking steroids or drugs with an arrogant attitude towards everyone and the slightest wrong move and you're dead. They do not have a right to terrorize and harass people but some of them act like they do. They do it all the time to whomever they want to with impunity most of the time. If questioned, they always have excuses and must be trained to accuse people with lies just to see what you say. I did say something after the same cop said he smelled alcohol in my car during the stop. I said he must be smelling things because I hadn't had a drink in over a week. I probably caught him offguard with that statement.
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skibum609
4 years ago
I took a dancer out of a long closed Providence club called "Hawk's" and took her to buy an 8 ball before we went to a motel for the night. 1991. She kicked off her boots in the car and went upstairs barefoot. Sitting in the car smoking a cigarette and I felt 2 'presences on either side of my car, heard a hammer cock and turned to face a snub-nosed 38; two undercover cops. Had a conversation about what the "whore" was doing (upstairs looking out the window) while he held the gun maybe 2 inches from my face. Asked for a cigarette, then a light, then said "you know what I'd be doing if I were you'"? "leaving" was my response and I left. I knew he wasn't going to shoot me, but he never took the gun away. Boots didn't fit my then girlfriend, now wife, so I gave them to my roommate, who had been my girlfriend when I was 17.
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Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
"... Last time I was stopped I heard "PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE STEERING WHEEL". I did nothing wrong in my opinion but felt like I was in Nazi Germany ..."

IMO, every person should do this automatically (put hands on steering wheel) - when I get pulled over by the police, I automatically lower all my windows, turn on all my interior lights (if it's nighttime), and put my hands on the steering-wheel at the 12'oclock position (as most people with common-sense likely do I assume) - cops don't know if they are pulling over a gang-member with warrants that doesn't wanna go to jail, or a Sunday school teacher, they just don't know and can't afford to take the chance; it's not unheard off for a police-officer to get blown-away during a simple traffic-stop.
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pistola
4 years ago
^I do the same thing and when asked for registration I tell the cop it’s in the glovebox and I’m going to get it. I keep one hand on the wheel while I get the registration and move pretty slow.
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BBBC
4 years ago
I never get arrested. I just offer some fun 😉
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