Having your cake and eating it to

Step 1: Go into Porn.

Step 2: Marry someone in the biz.

Step 3: Keep making porn.

I just like coming home to nothing sometimes. I don't think it's a bad thing.

@JuiceBox69

To answer your question I would refer you to Demosthenes;

“We have courtesans for the sake of pleasure,

Concubines for the daily health of our bodies,

And wives to bear us lawful offspring and be the faithful guardians of our homes"

In this one startling sentence is the Greek view of woman in the classic age.

And in all ages and times all men want that, by instinct, but today only some, the 1% can afford it...

Demosthenes

(384 – 12 October 322 BC)

Greek statesman and orator of ancient Athens.

So become part of the 1%

Ask RickDugan how he keeps me a secret from his wife 😉

I think the only way you can really do that is to have a completely open relationship like skibum. And can you deal with your steady piece of ass being rammed by other guys from time to time.

Most married guys on this board, there is a reason why they are mongering. Their relationship at home is not that great. If mine were, I probably would not act the way I do.

Ambitious. If you want to stay married you won’t be able to bang a lot of hot bitches on the side, unless you’re a gangster, and even Tony Soprano didn’t get away with it forever.

A guy who wants to stay married will have to settle for an occasional discrete hook-up with a pro they can trust.

I don’t totally disagree with Warrior - in a perfect world your spouse will meet all your needs, but for guys with really strong sex drives and a kind of selfish desire for variety, I think it’s rare.

I think some of us got married when we were younger, and we thought the companionship and sex would last us through our old age.

Things change over the years. We also knew our fiancés would not go for an agreement to have a side piece. It would be challenging (or impossible) to try and introduce that now.

So, many guys make the decision to monger secretly - or as others might say - cheat.

I think it’s important to weigh your options before getting involved in a committed relationship.

Does she expect monogamy? Most women do.

Will she look the other way when you hook up with a stripper? There may be women who might be ok - as long as you bring home really good money.

Set expectations up front. You know whether you can keep it in your pants. Be honest with yourself and your partner.

If you're talking about an open relationship with an accommodating woman at home ... well ... you're already there. What's to discuss?

If, on the other hand, you're talking about the situation most of us find ourselves in - sneaking around - that's another matter.

Sneaking takes effort and discipline. You have to have a plan. Your plan usually has to have a foundation (as in the reason you won't be around Tuesday was established before Tuesday). And don't let these hoes text you.

I've gone the pay-for-play route because it removes a significant variable from the sneaking. My side piece(s) isn't calling me. She's not getting jealous. She's not expecting a relationship, only cash. The nature of this transaction is one of the main reasons why I can keep it out of view.

Of course, this assumes you have access to the cash without arousing suspicion. Don't fuck that up.

Get you a girl who is bi or ok with non monogamy.

Also think long and hard if you are ok with your girl taking other dicks.

If you're not, either go the monogamous route or stay single. There also is the in between zone where you're hanging with someone constantly, emotionally supportive, friends, constantly fucking but not "together" and you're free to play with others. These situations rarely last forever but are fun while they do.

I got a piece of advice from a married friend who always had a lot of side action

“Always fuck up.”

He meant the woman you’re having the affair with should have more to lose than you if the affair was exposed.

I can’t claimed you have followed his advice.

Punchline - his wife recently divorced him and got half of everything.

I think the best strategy without any "open relationship" bs is probably get a girl below you(i.e. if you're a 7 get you a 3 or 4) for the house. She'll be so grateful to have a guy "out of her league" she will let you do whatever you want probably.

Since this is Juice’s topic - it’s important to be brutally upfront and make sure your partner is ok with you banging a chick with a dick (who may actually be a guy with tits - who may look hotter in a dress than your female partner)...

no juice - we are not on, we have never been on - there is no one in the world i think less of than you. you are right there with pond scum. I am starting to wonder if you are retard that lives in a trailer and chases fat chicks at the local truck stop.... I am happy for you when I see an entire sentence without incorrectly spelled words.

your lift in HERTZ was short lived - you are now down another 3%. so what are you gonna tell us next? you sold the stock after you made your 30%.

JUICE - go back to being JUICE. That is the best advice I can give you.

Oh shit...wrong account 😢

FUCK Demosthenes!!!!

he can shove that 1% right up his ass!!!!

wife will bring you kids who likely will start hating your guts after 10 years old, and when wife has total contempt for you all that you have worked for most will wind up in her possession.

Just eat pie juicy don’t worry about the cake

I can’t do the side chick thing. First of all, I don’t have the time or energy to deal with the one I got at home let alone finding additional ass. Add that to raising kids and working full time, I’d rather take a nap, eat some good food, have a drink, or look at some porn; that way i can have sex with whomever I wish without the legal consequences.

NiceSpice just got a lot hotter with her Juice rant! Lol!

I’m going to read it a few more times with my shorts around my ankles...

nicespice is not being so nice. OUCH !!! I know not to piss you off. :-)

@JuiceBox69

Just remember, people all around the world know that for example French have mistresses.

Not because French have more mistresses than anywhere else, but because French admit it, they deeply believe that their sex life it is none of your business.

French don’t have a puritan idea of what is morally or ethically fair and should be widespread.

French are wise enough to form their own individual opinions.

It is part of the Enlightenment era.

Now go get:

Chicks with Dicks and High End escorts for the sake of your pleasure.

Mistresses/Sugar Babies for the daily needs of your body.

Wife to bear your lawful offspring.

Realistic Sex Dolls/Gynoids/Fembot for kicks-and-giggles...

And remember Pics or it didn’t happen.

:D

Juice is on the loose!

The Desertscrub impersonation by nicespice was......ok I guess. She didn't sound angry and bitter enough though. Plus there's gotta be way more profanity. I didn't know it was supposed to be Scrub until she mentioned Hertz.

->@chessmaster: "I think the best strategy without any "open relationship" bs is probably get a girl below you(i.e. if you're a 7 get you a 3 or 4) for the house. She'll be so grateful to have a guy "out of her league" she will let you do whatever you want probably."

This begs the question of whether one can tolerate residing with a 3 or 4. Me, no. And also not OK with SO taking side dicks (yes hypocritical, I know). And so I sneak, with effort and discipline, as per Sgrayeff post above - pretty much ITC only, extremely rarely OTC, which is one thing that makes the club so addictive.

In my experience if you're a 7 you can generally find a 5 who will basically worship you and be fully compliant. No need to scrape down to 3s

Definitely more spice than nice in that post

Since no one asked I'll elaborate that the best lays are 7s who used to be 4s. They still view themselves as a 4 and have all the good habits a 4 carries with her.

The worst are 5s who used to be 8s. Golden Pussy Syndrome in a package that isn't worth it.

anywhere else in his world a 4 or a 5 tend to behave as a 4 or a 5. in the nyc area a 4 or a 5 acts like an 8 or a 9.

If you provide and she (you’re partner) can’t sustain her goals and lifestyle without your providing, then you can duck whatever you want on the side. If she can however, say goodbye to half your shit and hope the post was worth it XD.

Something to consider would be, the possibility of doing the same thing when not in a relationship where exclusivity to each other is expected.

After all, there’s nothing stopping you from having multiple strippers assuming you don’t have an addiction and aren’t broke.

Write a novel. Probably not gonna happen for you.