Enjoy your last week of clubbing guys
WavvyCain
Degenerate gambler and virgin
Well America is about to shut back down so I want all my brothers here to enjoy your last week at the spots. Get all the connects u need for OtC, be blessed, and stay safe. Hope y’all enjoyed the last month though.
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Once the door opened a little bit, people charged in. So, maybe the alternative is to tap the brakes a couple times to buy some time. That’s keeps the health system under control.
As an old guy, I’ve always figured October 1 was a good target date for me. Rather than the clubs slowly ramping back to normal, it’s going to be more Start, Stop, Start, Stop. My end result is still going to be Oct 1.
The reopening was all about greed. Business interests pushed politicians to reopen quickly. People went along with it thinking life would be normal but look at it.
I think tbings will get really bad once evictions start up and the CARES ui provisions end. Id rather just see everything shut down by then.
Trump wants a stimulus to make himself look good but the reasoning doesn't matter as l9ng as something gets done. The vacation credit is ridiculous though. Especially considering the rise in infections. And the increasing rate is witj only partial openings.
I never imagined living through something like this
Aye, fight and you may die. Run and you'll live -- at least a while.
And dying in your beds many years from now,
would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and tell our enemies that
they may take our lives, but they'll never take... our freedom!
WHO'S WITH ME!!!!
let each individual one of us determine what is our tolerance for risk.
if we choose to remain isolated so be it but let it be an individual choice.
And ditto for all businesses.
are we going to shut down just every time statistics look a little bad ?.
this ain’t the first pandemic .
And with all of the scary political tactics it won’t be the last.
on both sides of the aisle.
ain’t none of us is going to live forever in our present situation.
even under the best conditions.
Also, the death tally is the figure most reflective of what’s really happening. If you divide this by the mortality rate, it reflects the active infections from 2 weeks prior. The number of daily deaths has dropped dramatically nationwide. This suggests that the number with active infections is also declining, with a 2 week lag in data. The increase in confirmed cases doesn’t take into account the number who have recovered or the increase in cases that results from increased testing.
Bottom line. If you want to be scared, focus on the flawed “ confirmed cases” figure. If you want an accurate sense of the trend ( lagging 2 weeks ), look at daily deaths.
The effect of the protests is minimal compared to openings to early.
OTOH openings must happen because we’ll all live in ghost towns if we wait until the virus is gone. We just need to be smart together, kinda like virtually every other country in the world has done.
Another thing that doesn’t get mentioned is that a virus vaccine is a LONG way from certain, there may NEVER be an effective vaccine. Remember that the HIV vaccine is still being searched for.
I just find it absurd and beyond hypocritical that some can blame people in bars but not the protests. It just confirms the fact that the far left is as ideologically stupid and insipid as the far right.
This is exactly what was supposed to happen as things opened up. The old and sick stay isolated. The young and healthy get on with their lives. The healthy got infected and recovered. Herd immunity set in.
All is going as planned, so why are governors freaking out ?
Tough? Those guys always look like pussies to me. The tough ones are those who saddle up, get on out there and do what needs doing even though it is not as safe as it used to be.
Worse though, those are the same people who circulate douche chill inspiring slogan like "By staying apart, we stay together" with a Like from their social media accounts. it's truly depressing how far the male of the human race has fallen. It's amazing that we can even still produce children, though the drastic decrease in the U.S. birth rates may be telling.
If you wanna know what a braying jackass of a fraud Trump is, compare death rates in US to anywhere else in the world.
Huh. I guess we agree on how to set par.
But even with the Grim Reaper Governors of the NE states, our death rates compare favorably to many other industrialized countries that enjoy the same freedoms that we do, including France, Italy and England. Freedom has a cost. Always has and always will.
Are we doing better than the rest of the world? 4% of the world’s population and 20-25% of the deaths. And counting. Our numbers are still going up. That may mean our death rate goes up too, but how did we fail so badly and why do we continue to fail? Sure, the nursing home decisions were a disaster. But what about now? I lay a lot of it at Trump’s bone spurred feet.
We had two months’ lead time as compared with Asia and Europe. We have a great for profit healthcare system with the best minds incentivized to perform. Why are we so bad?
We didn’t identify the needs during a pandemic, PPE, tests, food production and stock up. That is a federal responsibility. Trump said in March that the virus could just go away. Yesterday he said the virus is “going to sort of just disappear. I hope”. That’s his plan 4 months into this. Keep defending him.
Were old, fat, out of shape, have diabetes and people in the older age bracket smoke or did smoke.
Contrast this with the Polio epidemic in the late 1940s-early 1950s this country is now being governed by absolutely reckless morons the whole lot of them are criminally negligent.
“ https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7220…
www.ecdc.europa.eu
As of 22 May 2020, 1 335 410 cases have been reported in the EU/EEA and the UK
As of 22 May 2020, 160 002 deaths have been reported in the EU/EEA and the UK
www.cdc.gov
As of 22 May 2020, 1 571 617 cases have been reported in the US
As of 22 May 2020, 94 150 deaths have been reported in the US
So as of today the US has had about 240 000 more cases than the EU/UK but only 59% the number of deaths. That sounds like a win to me as far as how the US is doing but that is open to interpretation.”
You simply can’t do meaningful analysis based on incomplete or “questionable” data and ALL the numbers floating around are known to be bad. Garbage in/garbage out. The US numbers are maybe more transparent and arguably more accurate than other places but they are still NOT good numbers. For instance, the State of Colorado was caught red handed inflating the number of Covid–19 dead. They weren’t caught by some investigative journalist but by a doctor who discovered that some State employed bureaucrat changed the cause of death to Covid-19 on a death certificate that he had already signed. So from 15 May Colorado has now been reporting deaths “from” Covid-19 separately from deaths of people “with” Covid-19 but who died from something else. ( https://covid19.colorado.gov/data/case-d… ). The discrepancy prior to being caught? They were inflating the number of Covid-19 deaths by about 30%. I hope no one would argue that 30% is a rounding error.
How many other States, hospitals and others have been inflating the numbers is unknown but you have to assume that many have been whether for getting extra money, resources or political gain. Common sense should require even those America hating progressives to admit the US is probably a much better place to be to both avoid getting infected in the first place and is a way better place to be if one requires treatment than say a socialist utopia like Venezuela.
As to the rest of the world, who the fuck knows. Belgium had a minor scandal in that they weren’t reporting any cases despite the reality on the ground. I’m told that the people in Mexico are in denial and don’t want to admit the existence of the virus so the government goes along. And who in their right mind could possibly believe that some place like Somalia either has the capability to know what they have much less really care about it. And let me be absolutely clear about this, the WHO (World Health Organization) have been completely and utterly discredited.
And on the individual level and from the medical viewpoint there is usually the question about what was the actual cause of death of an old person? Across the border a relative recently died. She had ALL the classic symptoms, tested positive, was placed in an isolated Covid-19 ward, and died within 4 days. Cause of death on the death certificate? Respiratory failure. So there is one of who the fuck knows how many Covid-19 deaths that isn’t included in anyone’s data.
The numbers will never be complete.
As far as Trump, I don’t like him but most of what he has done has been correct though he has failed in a critical task for any president in time of crisis. He has not calmed or instilled confidence among the populace. Otherwise what he has done has been good. Ironically the things that I fault him for have been mostly for putting America and the American public first. While my money was going the other way to try to buy extremely limited PPE in places where the healthcare systems were actually overwhelmed (btw, the US never came close) Trump and others were buying up world supplies and stopping all exports of PPE (btw, Germany and France did the same thing while Spain and Italy were begging in vain for supplies while thousands died).
As to Cuomo, IMO that motherfucker is guilty of personally murdering almost 6000 people in nursing homes. It was HIS policy the HE personally signed and kept in place for weeks after the number of deaths skyrocketed and it was public knowledge and still that mother fucker kept sending contagious patients to infect the most vulnerable. I liken it to sending Small Pox infected blankets to the Native Americans knowing they would die. I hope that motherfucker enjoys all the death taxes.
I’m going to stop now before I give myself an aneurysm. So go out, get a drink and fondle some naked women. Oh sorry about that. My bad.
The patients were not sick enough to require hospital admission. That’s why they were sent home. The beds were being saved for people who actually needed to be hospitalized. Now, it turned out we had unused capacity just about everywhere so they could’ve kept the seniors in the hospital even though by definition they didn’t need hospitalization for treatment. Who would’ve paid for the hospitalization? Medicare and Medicaid won’t pay for unnecessary treatment. Could they have gotten some sort of executive order to cover payment? Maybe.
If you (or anyone) tests positive for COVID and you don’t need to be hospitalized you are sent home. That’s what they did. They didn’t need hospital beds and they couldn’t pay for them. So what are the alternatives to sending them home? And remember, if they wanted to go home to the nursing home, you couldn’t bar them from doing so.
The one idea I had was to send them to all of the unused hotel rooms. You’d still need to pay for it but you could’ve isolated them better than in the nursing homes. You’d also need caregivers, so more money.
My point here (I do have one) is that it’s easy to say “that motherfucker Cuomo is a murderer” but there was not a simple solution or place to put those people.
A person is thought to be contagious for 10 days after the “onset” of symptoms or two days after the fever breaks. We aren’t talking about housing people for months on end. Label it as negligent homicide if you like but it was an intentional action. It wasn’t an error in judgment that was corrected as soon as the realization hit. His policy and the deaths went on for weeks.
Funny, but Florida and several other states had no problem figuring it out. They worked with the larger private nursing home operators to designate certain facilities specifically for COVID positive. This included people who tested positive but were not sick enough to send to the hospital.
Jimmy, that type of analysis is impossible to do because many countries are in various stages of this thing. There is also the reality that authoritarian governments with no transparency are likely not reporting good numbers.
The best we can do is to compare ourselves to other democratically elected free societies with with heavy population concentrations in urban centers. By that measure, we compare well. Also, we are now getting much younger people testing positive so we can reasonably expect the death rates to stay under control so long as we continue to shield the assisted living facilities.
Haven't you figured out by now that a wider spread was inevitable once we opened back up? As is obvious to almost everyone now, this thing is not going away until we have herd immunity or a vaccine and there is no telling if the latter will ever even happen anytime soon.
FL is much preferable to NY/NJ/CT right now, which are STILL locked down with no end in sight because their Governors are paralyzed with fear. The important stats are deaths and hospitalizations and we are doing fine on that front on a relative basis. Right now it's young people getting it in FL.
Glad the Republican convention is up in your neck of the woods the more morons like you that get the virus the better it is for us in the southern end of the state.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/202…
https://eagenda.collincountytx.gov/docs/…
I think you might be a candidate for the Clorox vaccine, trials to be held in Jacksonville in August
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/vind…
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