About the only thing from NYC...

Panicky twats behaving like cornered animals. Just great.

Pro-shutdown, pro-mask people boggle ny mind. Someone is defending not just government totalitarian repression but mobs of angry sheep at ground level violently enforcing it for free?

By the way, the masks don't actually do anything and even the W HO still doesn't recommend them for everyday use.

My 83 year old mother refuses to put it over her nose in the store. Says she can't breathe. I take her shopping every week for groceries. So far two busybodies have hassled her ( store employees haven't said anything). I was ready to go off on them but she just says "thank you" and then ignores them. They get all angry and frustrated. Its really pretty hillarious.

I do not agree with forced shut downs. If you want or need to keep your business open to provide for yourself, your family, your employees, and your customers, then you should be able to do so.

I do not agree with forcing people to stay at home. If you want or need to go out shopping, to see a movie, to go to the beach, etc., then you should be able to do so.

However, you do not have the right to recklessly endanger other people by failing to observe basic health and hygiene measures advised by medical professionals during the pandemic. Yes, your freedom has limits.

Consider this (medical fact): You are healthy person who is not infected with the coronavirus. A person infected with the coronavirus is standing six feet away from you. The infected person is just breathing. Not coughing, not sneezing, just breathing. If neither of you are wearing a mask, there are enough virus particles in their respiratory exhalation for a high risk of you becoming infected. If the infected person is not wearing a mask, but you are, then there is still a moderately high risk of you becoming infected. If the infected is wearing a mask, but you are not, then there is a moderately lessened risk of you becoming infected. If you are both wearing masks, then there is a very low risk of you becoming infected. However, the risk of transmission cannot be completely eliminated.

When I wear a mask (not even considering at work since it is a medical fucking practice where many of our patients are on immunosuppressants), it is because it is the courteous and considerate thing to do. I feel smothered, I sweat buckets around my mouth even under the thinnest surgical ask (much less an N95), I do not enjoy breathing my own CO2; however, I do it in solidarity with considerate people around me because we can acknowledge something that many seem to miss.

It is not about me. It is not about me. It is about you. I wear a hot, uncomfortable, stifling mask; even though I am perfectly healthy, so that you may go out about your business (wearing a mask, as well), with reasonable expectation of not becoming infected. If you do not wear a mask, even if you feel fine, then you are presenting a moderately high or greater risk of asymptomatically transmitting the virus even to those courteous enough to wear a mask.

Everyone in that store was wearing a mask but that one woman. So yes, I feel that she should have stayed home and ordered delivery, If you cannot breathe under a mask, then wear a bandanna, a scarf, what the fuck ever; but there is no reason not to cover up (nose & mouth, Dave) when you go out. No one has to go through this alone, separately together, or any other platitude-ridden bullshit; but you should have the common decency to cover up out of consideration for others.

How about this: if you’re afraid to go out of the house unless everyone else is wearing a mask, then stay the fuck home and shop online. By the way, I am in 100% agreement with a private businesses right to insist patrons wear masks. That mean everyone else should be vigilantes.

Ooops: That doesn't mean . . .

The experts don’t know shit. They have been exposed as charlatans. What does that make people who blindly, aggressively impose their views on others.

Ten years from now, we’ll realize that government CoVid intervention was flawed in just about every way. Sweden got it right.

Well considered opinion/advice gammanu95.

Yeah, I wear a mask when I am out more to protect others who are at higher risk than myself. I have had several store employees thank me for wearing one and that alone gives me the motivation to continue. I actually use a nice breathable gator like neck tube that I just pull up when entering and stays in place a lot better for me than a medical type face mask: Ironically made in China of course:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B085Q2…

Longball, words cannot express the level of resentment I feel towards wearing masks made in China. Senator Rick Scott, of Florida, is introducing legislation that will require online retailers (like Amazon) to visibly display the country of origin for all products sold online.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv…
Note the pictures in this article from 1918 of people wearing masks: getting a haircut, playing baseball, sweeping the sidewalk -- wearing a mask during a pandemic is not a new thing, politicizing it like the asshole in chief has is.

If I have to take a cart when golfing; I ride. If I have to wear mask to but new Pro v1's like I did yesterday I wear a mask. If someone comes to my office wearing a mask I ask them to remove it.

Like the country of origin idea; hope it passes.

Loper, the Spanish flu killed over a half of a percent of the entire U.S. population and was deadly across a variety of age groups. Why people are getting irritated and resisting now is precisely because we are treating this virus, which is nasty but not deadly to most people, as if it was like the Spanish flu. Shit, a lot of the people who are dying now from COVID wouldn't have been around to catch it if this was 1918 as the average life expectancy back then was 20 years lower.

^ You just keep spinning away. world WWI killed about 16 million people world wide, but as a basis for comparison over 50 million people world wide if you are going to spin at the very least get your comparisons in a logical line,
for the record half of one percent of the population of the United States at that time was over half a million people a tremendous number of deaths in any era, from any cause.

^ 50 million world wide died from the flu pandemic (don't know why that was cut off)

It's not as deadly as the Spanish Flu, yet. And it has been known to take out children and healthy young adults. It doesn't hurt you at all to wear a mask. Protests against this are absurd.