America is a Failure Nothing to Celebrate

We got two borders and two coasts. Any will allow you to leave

^^^ rite

Dont let the door hit you on the way out

I suppose only a true failure like the OP would know what failure is but with him being a failure he fails to realize that his troll post is as full of BS as he is.
The true purpose of Memorial Day isn't about celebration, it's to pay homage to our war dead, people that died fighting for and preserving the freedom that allows his moronic ass to lie and publicly say things like he did in his post.

OP isn't only a whiny crybaby failure the fact that he has my post muted proves that he's also a wimp that can't handle the truth.

Is this post for real? A lot of stuff is sideways but bounce back won't take forever.

I don't post often, but this post deserves an explanation.
It is quite obvious that nemesisk7 is clueless.

That's all folks!

The virus has exposed our societys weaknesses and its true face. Plus this administrations negligence and ineptitude are criminal

Its you who can't handle the Truth prick

Very true iceyloco !

hey, if you want a corrupt, plagiarizer, weirdo with dementia, there are plenty others to choose from besides Joey B.

You have no idea what Memorial Day is about. It honors and mourns the heros that protected this great country. It has nothing to do with unemployment, C19, or Biden. Shut the fuck up idiot.

Time to shut the fuck up asshole.

Get the fuck out of America now.

“Get the fuck out of America now.”

That sniveling fucktarded coward could never survive outside of America.

If tomorrow all the things were gone
I worked for all my life
And I had to start again
With just my children and my wife

I thank my lucky stars
To be living here today
'Cause the flag still stands for freedom
And they can't take that away

And I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me
And I'd gladly stand up next to you
And defend Her still today
'Cause there ain't no doubt
I love this land
God Bless the U.S.A.

From the lakes of Minnesota
To the hills of Tennessee
Across the plains of Texas
From sea to shining sea

From Detroit down to Houston
And New York to L.A.
Where's pride in every American heart
And it's time we stand and say

That I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me
And I'd gladly stand up next to you
And defend Her still today
'Cause there ain't no doubt
I love this land
God Bless the U.S.A.

And I'm proud to be an American
Where at least I know I'm free
And I won't forget the men who died
Who gave that right to me
And I'd gladly stand up next to you
And defend Her still today
'Cause there ain't no doubt
I love this land
God Bless the U.S.A.

nemesisk7 - I hear Afghanistan is nice this time of year. You should go !

I will buy your one way passage to any country in the world, if only you promise to never come back, even to visit. Never.

I don't get why some of you are so butthurt about the truth. The US is on the decline. We have a president telling people to use dangerous meds and to inject Lysol. Were also the only country without worker protections so the shutdown resulted in record unemployment here. We have 90k dead in 2 months with a shut down. Thats a rate of 540k a year with a shutdown. Were not that great as a country. The fact tnat some people actually still support Trump proves it

This country had been on a rapid decline since 2000. Trump actually has been making it better. But you're too busy listening to CNN news bites to notice.

Now go fuck off, mysoginist pig.

The decline started with Nixon. Then the Carter Doctrine....etc.

I love my country whether there's a Democrat or a Republican in power.

SuperFreaky69 nailed it. Show some class.

From the bottom of my heart you can fuck off OP. You and your fucktard poser America haters can go live in your shitholes in envy.

IceyLoco these fools dont get it

nemesick7,

Oh, WE get it. I bet you were one of the assholes that was going to move to another country if Trump won. ALL liars.

You see, you people just can not tell the true. Lies are your mainstay of conversation PERIOD!

nemesisk, it would be wise for you to answer my PM.

(America)
(America)

America, fuck yeah
Comin' again to save the motherfuckin' day, yeah
America, fuck yeah
(Freedom is the only way, yeah)

Terrorists, your game is through
'Cause now you have to answer to

America, fuck yeah
So lick my butt and suck on my balls
America, fuck yeah
Whatcha gonna do when we come for you, now?

(It's the dream that we all share)
(It's the hope for tomorrow)
Fuck yeah

McDonald's (fuck yeah)
Wal-Mart (fuck yeah)
The Gap (fuck yeah)
Baseball (fuck yeah)

NFL (fuck yeah)
Rock and roll (fuck yeah)
The internet (fuck yeah)
Slavery (fuck yeah)

Fuck yeah

Starbucks (fuck yeah)
Disney World (fuck yeah)
Porno (fuck yeah)
Valium (fuck yeah)

Reeboks (fuck yeah)
Fake tits (fuck yeah)
Sushi (fuck yeah)
Taco Bell (fuck yeah)

Rodeos (fuck yeah)
Bed Bath & Beyond (fuck yeah, fuck yeah)

Liberty (fuck yeah)
Wax lips (fuck yeah)
The Alamo (fuck yeah)
Band-Aids (fuck yeah)

Las Vegas (fuck yeah)
Christmas (fuck yeah)
Immigrants (fuck yeah)
Popeye (fuck yeah)

Democrats (fuck yeah)
Republicans (fuck yeah, fuck yeah)
Sportsmanship
Books

Fuck yeah!

Tuscl (fuck YEAH)

Loving your country has nothing to do with blind loyalty. Real patriotism is about wanting to make it better and being grounded in reality. Not in flag waving jingoism and populist rhetoric like in North korea.

^ Real patriotism has a love for what America stands for, and isn't conditional upon whether your preferred guy is in office.

And I wish the democrats would go back to being the party of Roosevelt and republicans the party of Eisenhower

The disconnect between what the US is and what it stands for is a universe apart

So do you love America, or just the Democratic party?

Are you taking notes coz you envision some mccarthyistic dream of vetting ones love for the nation?

I love the US as much as I love Uganda. Borders don't separate people. Political and economic agendas do.

If your nationalism rests on putting your nation above others and putting others down thats fascism. Be careful

Actually, I asked a straightforward question. Your non-answer and poor attempt to put me on the defensive speaks volumes.

I love my country despite its imperfections, for the opportunities that it has provided me and my family and what it stands for in the world. Is it perfect? No. But that's irrelevant. It does a ton of good that no country can replicate right now.

@Tetradon these guys are losers and it’s basically lost on them that they’d not likely survive any other place in this world, definitely not in the places they approve of. Could you imagine any of these losers having to make their own way in this world all they know is how to jump in line for handouts

@25, more likely these are internet shock jock types who want attention from insulting a national holiday.

They’re still losers they aren’t capable of shocking me.

Tetradon you love right wing politics not the US. Hence why you spam the forum with said empty jingoism.

Because I said I love my country regardless of who's in office? That doesn't follow.

All of your posts in the forum reek of right wing drivel

^ Um sure, whatever, because so said so, internet shock jock

Nicespice won this post. That is the best America song hands down. Even the slow sad version rocks.

Tetradon all of your posts are ideologically right wing. You support that agenda by your own admission

Are you now ashamed to state youre a right winger Republican?

I'm a registered Republican who loved his country whether Obama or Trump was president, and gets called a conservative by his liberal friends and never-Trumper by his conservative friends. Neither is wrong, but neither captures the truth.

Regardless, I'm grateful the opportunities that this country has provided and believe it's a force for good in the world. Even if it's not perfect, it possesses mechanisms for self-correction and improvement.

I'd appreciate if you could separate your opinion of Trump from the rest of the country.

And we couldn't have this discussion if service-men and -women hadn't fought for it. We'd be beaten with truncheons and dragged off for "re-education." At least be thankful for that.

Actually we could have had tbis convo in a myriad of nations that haven't resorted to imperialistic tendencies. And you admit to your right wing dogmatism.

Yet you choose to reap the benefits of this one.

And you have admitted to the thought processes of a spoiled child.

Nothing is perfect. No place on earth I'd rather live; whiny progressives notwithstanding. Query: If you lose twice to Donald Trump, should you disband?

MackTruck (fuck yeah)

Tetradon you promote right wing dogma on rbis forum.

Right wing dogma like that I loved my country when Obama was president.

You are wasting your time Tetradon. You can’t use logic to debate progressive hypocrisy. If you love this country it means you hate others so you are a racist xenophobe. It’s the same idea that free speech is only allowed if you agree with it

^ I'm not trying to convince him, only to make him show the logical and character deficiencies of left-wing internet trolls. And I hit that one out of the park.

You still supported a right wing agenda. Your comments on yhe forum speak for themselves.

Gobstopper youre basically stating that opposing bigotry discriminates against bigots 🤣🤣🤣

And they say "common sense" and "ability to have a civil, nuanced conversation," everything you do not.

"This country had been on a rapid decline since 2000. Trump actually has been making it better. But you're too busy listening to CNN news bites to notice."

I actually thought the US was in a very good place in the 2000-2012 era. I recently binged on comedies from that era and its easy to forget just how much has changed since then. Particularly its incredible how much political incorrectness you could have in movies and television just 10-15 years ago compared to now.

I do somewhat agree with IceyLoco in the sense that how much I like any country in the world is conditional. Its purely based on who I think has created the best society. Whether its my country or not doesn't really come into play.

However, objectively, the US has done a pretty good job. We are the strongest economy in the world. The constitution is a work of brilliance that continues to keep our country safe despite ideologues who have tried their best to defeat it. The US government is generally a force for good in the world, keeping authoritarian regimes in check, and despite some flaws in our foreign policy we generally try to treat other countries fairly. During wars, the US military goes to great lengths in order to not kill civilians. Terrorist organizations are aware of how much the American military does not want to kill civilians which is why they use human shields. If ISIS was fighting the Iranian military, they probably wouldn't bother with human shields because they know the Iranian government wouldn't care how many Iraqis died. Overall the philosophy of individualism is good for libertarianism and keeping authoritarianism in check.

However, individualism has its flaws which manifests itself in US society. One of the biggest flaws being that many people become self-absorbed and stop caring about the quality of life for the people around them. The US has too much of an attitude that "all your problems are your fault, and the only way to fix them is to fix you." This is essentially a cop out so that none of the issues in our society can be blamed on society itself. Despite our individualism, there's a major lack of common sense in US society which manifests itself in our prostitution laws, in the increasing levels of bureaucracy, the refusal to address the root causes of the school shooter phenomenon (its not guns, its rage), and in extreme helicopter parenting.

We have a tendency to simply ignore the harmful effects of things we are doing to our own country until the problem gets completely out of control. Depression, anxiety, and suicide rates among young men are at an all time high and nobody seems to want to address this fact other than to say its young men's fault for being "losers" compared to previous generations.

Overall, our extreme individualism and self-reliance ethic is going to be our downfall because humans are simply not meant to live that way. We are a tribal species that requires group cohesiveness in order to work. At some point we're going to have to acknowledge that we're not just a bunch of people living in our own bubbles but that our actions all have profound consequences on one another even if those actions seem small to us.

@CC America is not the failure, the failure is those that can't find a way to thrive, looking for someone, or something to blame, seems to me it some of you younger folks that are not facing up to your potential and using your own ability to get ahead, fortunately there are many young people doing well evidenced by the fact that the reference points made by those complainers, are really not representative of the mainstream.

Tetradon youre the one who isn't civil. You want your bigotry pandered to and call me intolerant for opposing bigotry. Get help.

Cc99 the developed world had moved past the laws of the jungle. Were just stunted

@TwentyFive

I don't think we are right now, but we are headed that way if we don't address the root causes of many of the issues plaguing us. The biggest one being the rage a lot of people have towards one another right now. It gets worse every year, and it absolutely will cause our downfall if we don't find some sort of compromise between the groups.

I'm not civil? I express appreciation for my country and that's being a bigot, while you just cry bigotry without any information supporting your claim?

Let's see from the others on this thread, which of us is being a troll.

Either every ill as an individual should be blamed on the society at large or every ill is blamed on the individual. Doesnt matter which one but in this age of everyone being triggered and offended this is one of my triggers. People shouldn't get to cherry pick which issues are your fault and which are everyone else's.

@chessmaster

I wouldn't say picking and choosing each issue, but its more nuanced than being 100% the individual's fault or 100% society's fault because individual actions are often driven by society's directions. So if the directions that society gives people are wrong then their individual actions will be wrong too. Often times I think the directions society gives are too simplistic because people don't actually know what works. In Founder's front room thread I gave examples of how individual action can prevent people from getting girls but also how the things society tells people to value come into that as well. That's pretty much the case with everything. There's some individual action at play but society certainly has a large influence.

What if the problem is biological. That an individual lacks the capacity to properly learn their gender cues

Tetradon the right wing is inherently bigoted

Whatever, man. You're begging your own question.

I love America regardless of who is president. It's the Constitution that's America, not any individual. Progressives support failures and illegals so of course they hate America.

Your bigotry is antithetical to the premises of the constitution.

Skibum - He repeats that word "bigot" without a clear definition other some "someone who disagrees with me." See you at Desire sometime.

Bigot......view skibums comments for a definition of what a bigot is. If you agree with him yoyre a bigot too

The american right is bigoted by its very nature

Playing stupid as if you don't comprehend what a bigot is just makes you look like a fucking idiot

Why are conservatives bigots? Because they are!
What do we do that's bigoted? Being conservative!

I rarely suffer fools this long, but you represent the shrill idiot left so well I'm letting you embarrass yourself further.

Ironic that Icey continues to call those with different ideas bigots since a bigot by definition is one who is intolerant towards those with different opinions

You just proved my point. You're calling me a bigot for being intolerant of bigotry 🤣

"Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views."
- William F. Buckley

Not tolerating bigotry and right wing delusions that stunt society is an obligation. Youre like a moron telling me racism misogyny xenophobia etc are just different views that must be respected .... 🤣

I'd say that's false, but it's not even factual, it's an opinion. Keep embarrassing yourself and showing off your intellectual and moral bankruptcy.

It's a statement of fact. Youre the one morally and intellectually bankrupt.

Deal Tet; when Desires opens I am buying; well drinks anyway. In almost 38 years practicing law one weird thing I have learned is that people profess to hate traits in others, that they actually have inside them and hate themselves for having these traits. Examples: Progressives claim to love diversity, but if you look at their actions you realize they hate anyone different from them. Real life example: Liberal Massachusetts tried to raise the state income tax and the left showed poll after poll proving %75 percent of the populace thought paying a little more was fair. No tax increase was passed, but the tax form,s that year allowed people to pay the lawful rate, or voluntarily pay .2% more. Despite the 75% lol who thought it was fair, less than 1% paid it. More empty, no deeds words from the left. By the way: Democrat in the whitehouse makes this whole country Minneapolis.

@Skibum, Amen. Massachusetts progressives love the poor as long as they have to commute an hour to serve them, green energy as long as the windmills don't spoil their cape views and property values, and taxes as long as they're levied on someone else (see the SALT hysteria, which I gather hits us both).

I dont even have to say anything just turn on the news

Skyfag you are real proud of this nation arent you

I love you whining like the little bitch you are cum stain.