New Jersey is TOTALLY FUCKED UP. Is your state the same?

I don't know why you attack Democrats for these problems. Trump's lack of leadership and closing of the White House Pandemic Response Office and general incompetence have caused the US to have the most Covid-19 cases and deaths in the world. He put the science-denier Pence in charge instead of a medical expert. But I'm sorry. I need to give Trump credit for finding the cure--injecting or ingesting bleach.

@jack, because it's democrats keeping their states completely closed long past reasonable timeframes. And no politician is responsible for an invisible virus causing deaths. You should change your screen name to jackass.

@Mister: At this point, the blue state budgets are so fucked up that they are holding out in order to justify a massive federal bailout money. FEMA is already going to pay for 100% of equipment purchases and each state got CARE Act money on top of that, but for the piggish states with bloated budgets that is not enough. They have overwhelming public employee pension obligations that they do not know how they are going to pay now that tax revenues have sputtered, so the only path they see is to take the position that continued closures are necessary. They are holding out in hopes that they can keep on exerting leverage for the ZEROES Act to get passed. I am sorry that you live in one of those places.

The OP is right. Liberal news actually seems sad that thousands haven't died in Georgia since opening.

Trump didn't exacerbate this pandemic.

It's a virus. We need to stop running and hiding.

And the capricious picks as to what businesses get to stay afloat boggles my mind.

Anyone who can support this constitutional abuse will soon get what they want. Enjoy your subordinate life.

The curve has been flattened. It's time to be done.

Why California Is In Trouble – 340,000 Public Employees With $100,000+ Paychecks Cost Taxpayers $45 Billion

forbes.com

Trump did not cause the virus. His failure to act quickly and responsibly caused the virus to get out of control. The fact is that the US population is only 4% of the world population, but the US leads the world in coronavirus cases and deaths.

Trump downplayed the seriousness of the pandemic and lied about it constantly. "Anyone who wants a test can get a test." He continues to tout unproven treatments and suggests dangerous treatments like injecting or ingesting bleach. I would have expected better from "a very stable genius" who was Dean of Science at Trump University.

An intelligent, competent president would have nipped this pandemic in the bud. The severe economic consequences of the lockdown could have been avoided if we had a president who relied on science and medical expertise to control it from the start.

Its the democrats.

"Never let a good crisis go to waste."

An awful lot of folks are going to be in shock on November 4 Trump is going to lose, it’s only a question of by how large a margin

Jackass, other countries did not "nip it in the bud." It is popping back up. The Asian countries you seem to admire so much also did things that are just not Constitutionally possible here and even in those places, reports are coming out now indicating that it is coming back.

It is not unusual for fearful types like you to want somebody else to be responsible for making you feel safe and to blame leaders when you do not feel so. But sometimes shit happens. Trying to make a politician responsible for a virus outbreak is just silly by almost any rational measure.

^ any way you try to spin it Trump is still the president and so far 93,500 deaths on his watch and still rising, how many unemployed over 20 million, it’s still on his watch, and also still rising. Trump is giving Herbert Hoover a good name, he’s tried to bring back all of Hoover’s failed policies.

^ Nearly 40 million unemployed

^ And I guess you want to turn things over to FDR so he can keep us in depression for 16 years ?

FDR was a lot more popular than Hoover, he got re-elected 4 times buddy, Trump is going to lose the next election I think you should get ready for that reality.

Do you really want Stacy Abrams as your president ? Biden won't last 4 years.

25, are Presidents responsible for flu deaths too? Hurricanes? Earth quakes? Please do share your insightful views of how we hang virus illnesses on a politician. 😉

Keep your head in the sand RickiBoi, I wonder if there isn't a Rick the Ostrich to go along with those other Ricks that make up the council, you know the lion, the turtle, the vulture etal:

If Pelosi thinks trump is "morbidly obese", what does she think of Stacey Abrams?

But seriously Rick are you trying to suggest that this didn't happen on his watch, or that COVID-19 is a flu I mean really RickiBoi what's the direction of your spin.

If the Democrats can have their way, they will run their fear tactics and regulations all the way to election day. I live in Illinois and our fat assed Governor is an asshole. I'm lucky that I'm near the Wisconsin border where they are open for business.

Nevada is still nearly completely shut down. Our “governor” likes to throw us a bone saying we can play tennis and golf along with pickleball (whatever that is). Every day we read about businesses that say they can’t reopen financially. Iconic businesses here will never reopen. Casinos in Arizona are open, ours are closed. Frankly Las Vegas is probably done for good.

Political or not.....this house arrest has to end. I’m in healthcare and there is no surge, no overwhelming hospitals, etc. Just people who are so afraid to seek emergency treatment that by the time they get in, they are almost too sick to help and expire but NOT from a virus.

The president is a republican but the worst hit state and city is run by democrats. So what point is there in pointing fingers at a particular party?

We should really be coming together to blame that country that doesn't share our values, freedoms, and way of life. If China wasn't so authoritarian and lacking in free speech then they wouldn't have been able to hide the real danger and consequences of the virus thus allowing a proper and timely response by the rest of the world.

I agree with Icey. If we had UHC, the virus never would have speed here. The virus knows better than to mess with socialized medicine. That's why Europe was virtually untouched by this pandemic.

I totally agree. We can promise to pay people that don't work, with money we don't have.

@founder - Am I the only one sensing a hint of sarcasm?

MO I agree. It boggles my mind people still vote left while these unions got these dems in their back pocket. Pretty soon we’re going to have more people collecting retirement than actually working. An upside down pyramid doesn’t sound too stable to me.

Founder, you really rhink Europe is untouched by this pandemic? That couldn't be further from the truth.

@londonguy. He's mocking that idiot troll.

Founder is a god dam troll! 🤣🤣🤣

If we don’t have the money just print more. Government can print enough to give everyone $150,000. That should get us through this. While they’re at it just print enough money to pay off all the country’s outstanding debt. Sounds simple enough.

Florid is doing surprisingly well. Everyone thought that God's Waiting Room would become an open pit graveyard, but we seem to have done much better than most other states. Gov. DeSantis struck a near perfect balance between what and when to close to maintain a level which our existing healthcare infrastructure could afford. New York and Louisiana showcased different paradigms on how to infect and kill as many as citizens as reasonably possible . California and Michigan have free clinics on how to strip individual freedoms and guarantee a red wave in your states this year.

It's time to open everything up. If you're afraid to leave home, stay home. But donit without Gov't handouts. No more stimulus. No more expanded unemployment. Carpe diem and caveat emptor.

What I don’t understand is if Democrats are keeping businesses closed to hurt trump doesn’t that also risk their own political lives? I don’t think politicians are that self sacrificial, I sure as hell know cuomo ain’t.

Trump has been absent from this entire situation he’s trying to have it both ways he could have done the shutdown on a national basis instead he decided early on that he didn’t want to be held responsible so instead of a unified policy he gets the opportunity to attempt to play both ends against the middle, sorry that some of y’all are so partisan and paranoid you don’t get it. As a result of his inaction I hope they hang every death all 95 thousand and climbing around his fat neck And we legitimate conservatives blame him for every case of coronavirus, one and a half million and rising, here in America all of them Are a result of his failure of leadership.

I think I know the Firehouse if you're in Rahway. I used to live down the street and I'll sign on that its a cool place. You lost me at Bill Clinton and Obama though. You know neither of them is in public office right?

I'm confused 25. Did Trump tell NY, NJ and CT to send infected people back into the nursing homes? Did Trump tell NYers that it was a great idea to attend a body-to-body Chinese New Year celebration in NYC's Chinatown? Or are you saying that the Governors of these large states, each with its own health department, needed to be specifically told by Daddy Trump that these were bad ideas?

LOL.

It's OK RickiBoi we get it you are somewhat emotional, Stupid for sure, but emotional never the less.

25, just lightly amused and confused by your notion that a politician is now responsible for virus deaths. If we go down that road, don't we also need to look at the bad decisions made by some state governors? I'm simply awaiting more of your cutting edge insights. 😉

I understand RickiBoi it's fairly easy to amuse you any shiny object like a key ring will distract you for a bit, so tell me has Trump made any bad decisions or have you ingested the Clorox completely.🙄 I'm trying your girly winky yellow button thingy does it make it easier for you to follow 🙄

I see 25, this was just another trolling exercise for you. Thanks for confirming.

Twentyfive is correct.

Trump let governors make decisions. He shouldn't have done that. He should have just declared our whole country closed. He should have closed all borders, airports, and ports. He should have ordered every single person living in America to stay home.

Fuck Trump. He created this massive pandemic that has killed nearly .0003% of everyone in the USA.

I’m personally enjoying reading Rick’s stuff more on the majority left-leaning Stripperweb. 😁 Mostly because of him being a dissenter with more opponents.

It’s interesting that a lot of the Stripperweb bunch feels more strongly about lockdown measures. From a selfish perspective, a less bad economy and more deaths would mean more lonely men spending. A worse economy and less deaths means too many people who may decide to focus on other things in life than titty bars. 😝

Mock me if you like, but I never said that Trump created this pandemic, I said and continue to say that he has been determined to avoid any responsibility, that is why he left the hard decisions to governors and others, Now he praises both sides, goes on his Twitter account with messages egging on those that are disposed to civil disobedience, all the while saying he supports from both sides of his mouth. Let's get real there are 95,000 deaths in a short period of time, that didn't need to occur, you cannot refute that it's a plain fact, and it happened on his watch. If you'd like to politicize this feel free, but don't complain when reasonable people push back. Part of that push back is holding the con man accountable, you can say what you like but the facts are stubborn things, over a million and a half Americans are infected and over ninety-five thousand of them are dead, and the POTUS at this point in time is Donald Trump, he may not have created this pandemic and the resulting economic disaster that came with it but he needs to be held accountable for this disaster that is happening on his watch. No fucking Winky Smiley Emoticons just the actual facts.

I'm enjoying Founder's Sarcasm Friday comments. This should become a recurring thing.

"Mock me if you like, but I never said that Trump created this pandemic, I said and continue to say that he has been determined to avoid any responsibility, that is why he left the hard decisions to governors and others"

RE: 10th amendment of the US Constitution The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

"Now he praises both sides, goes on his Twitter account with messages egging on those that are disposed to civil disobedience, all the while saying he supports from both sides of his mouth."

How horrid of Trump to give credit where credit is due.

"Let's get real there are 95,000 deaths in a short period of time, that didn't need to occur, you cannot refute that it's a plain fact, and it happened on his watch."

Would we be having this conversation if Trump shut everything down on Feb 1? No. We'd be having the conversation of what an Authoritarian Regime we're living under.

"If you'd like to politicize this feel free, but don't complain when reasonable people push back. Part of that push back is holding the con man accountable, you can say what you like but the facts are stubborn things, over a million and a half Americans are infected and over ninety-five thousand of them are dead, and the POTUS at this point in time is Donald Trump,"

I am not arguing any of these fact, but to hold Trump solely accountable is ridiculous. Had China been more forthcoming with details, perhaps he would have handled it differently.

" he may not have created this pandemic and the resulting economic disaster that came with it but he needs to be held accountable for this disaster that is happening on his watch."

How do propose we hold one man accountable when we have fifty different governors and hundreds of other world leaders making decisions for their citizens? By that logic, we should hold Adam responsible for everything. If he never impregnated Eve, then we'd never have had any human problems. (That's sarcasm, don't take it as fact)

"No fucking Winky Smiley Emoticons just the actual facts."

Liberals will stop at nothing to hang every ill in the world around Donald Trump's neck. I cannot even begin to fathom the depths of ignorance and depravity which it takes to try and hold one little president responsible for a global pandemic. Blaming Donald Trump for the reported 95,000 Covid-19 deaths is like blaming Founder because one stripper somewhere might be ashamed of her job. It's complete idiocy.

You really just proved my point with your babbling gobbelty gook points of stupidity, responding in a way that makes sure to twist what I said into what you want to tell everyone I said. Trump is the one who said he knows better than the experts, as POTUS he is responsible to set an example for the country, he hasn't, all he has done is played both sides of this debate against the middle, as president his job is to set guidelines, he hasn't and we are suffering because of it. Your arguments are disingenuous and disrespectful to everyone who has died or gotten sick, I refuse to have this conversation any more until you start respecting the fact that most other people have a very different opinion and they are tired of this tyranny of the minority, so go out and refuse to wear a mask IDGAF ingest some poisons that's not my concern, but stop expecting reasonable people to accommodate your unreasonable demands that we allow you to make decisions, that affect us, our children and our parents.

BTW gammanu is a born idiot, I am far from liberal, but you guys are no conservatives you are a bunch of phony baloney jerks that can't see past the tip of your nose what is right and what is wrong.

Twentyfive, you come off as a name calling know it all.

You have no respect for differing opinions.

You belittle and degrade anyone who disagrees with you.

@twentyfive - I'd really like to compose a lengthy and thoughtful response to your post, but if there's one thing I've learned over the years, it's that arguing with idiots is usually an exercise in futility, especially when it involves politics.

I don't know what the demented ignoramus has written, but is a known fact the liberals have no weapons in their arsenal except name-calling and factually false statements. If you have a differing opinion than that of typical liberal, they will assume you wrong by default without even considering your arguments. The ad hominem attacks in response are born of their usual weakness and fear.

As far as blaming the politicians Trump is the one who dismantled the pandemic team and the highest ranking person who dismissed the dangers of the coronavirus. Covid-19 isn't done yet so we don't know how this is going to affect the country and the world. Hopefully we all agree that we need competent people in charge of handling this pandemic and any other emergency effort instead of people who favor our political ideologies.

===> "Let's get real there are 95,000 deaths in a short period of time, that didn't need to occur, you cannot refute that it's a plain fact,"

I staunchly disagree with this comment. What you wanted was clairvoyance, which is impossible. If Trump had advocated closing the economy before the supposed necessity of it was apparent, then state governors would have fought him for the obvious reasons. Look what happened when he took the simple step of restricting travel from China - NY politicians responded by encouraging their citizens to attend a body-to-body Chinese New Year celebration in Chinatown.

But even if he acted at the precisely best moments in the optimal ways, the notion that a President prevent deaths from a virus that was here at least a month before anyone knew is ludicrous. Our power structure is decentralized, in case you didn't know this, and our ability to restrict freedoms is not unlimited. It has to do with something we call the Constitution.

^You're a troll always looking for an argument, have fun jerking yourself off, bye Felicia

Hertz Car Rental filed for bankruptcy - I think they may have been struggling prior to Corona

It’s all good as long as the Feds money printer go BRRRRRRRRR

I have not heard about other corporate car rental companies having cash flow issues, and they should all be facing the same challenges in a world of diminished travel and tourism. Plus, Hertz just built their new global headquarters in SWFL, so it is major news for all of south Florida and maybe not in the rest of the states. But it is a good example of why all lockdowns need to be lifted, and businesses need to be allowed to open with common sense restrictions. Social distancing and face masks. I went to get my first haircut in ten weeks (I'm usually 3-4 week guy), and nobody was wearing face masks, except me. No one was social distancing, at least I was trying but some motherfucker kept sitting in the spot I vacated.

There is an article making the rounds on internet news sites that 26 states have uncontrolled spread, and r-naught greater than 1. What does that mean? You're on the internet, fucker, look it up. Masks and social distancing are the only known and proven means to create a minimal risk of viral transmission. They have ruled out surface transmissions as a major pathway to infection. Like the flu and a cold, it is airborne.

Here's my take: the states that still have lockdowns in place are fucked up. The states which have lifted lockdowns, but are not enforcing common sense behaviors are fucked up. The truth is somewhere in the middle: open up, enforce masks, social distancing, and groups less than 10.

And no, I am not paying your "COVID-19" fee.

My state is great! They got me😉