Surprised there are no riots
Lone_Wolf
Arizona
25M forced into unemployment in a matter of weeks. Stay at home lockdown...
Nary a peep of protest from America's slovenly citizens.
In 2018 France had major riots over a gas tax increase.
Will the peace continue?
Nary a peep of protest from America's slovenly citizens.
In 2018 France had major riots over a gas tax increase.
Will the peace continue?
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The protests may grow in May. I also expect more social distancing disobedience in the coming month.
we all die of something.
I just hope to die with a smile on my face.
unique about this particular pandemic is the political power grab, loss of liberty and the economic disaster we have in our hands.
Their income went to zero and has been that way for weeks. They can exist on savings, family and credit cards but that will only last for a very short while.
I'm surprised we have not seen more cracks in society up to this point. Doubt it will last.
I mean step 1 is just don't pay your rent?
LW, this reads like sour grapes over the fact that the predictions that Americans would be practically in full rebellion, after a week or two of lockdowns, have not remotely occurred. We don't have accuse Americans of being slovenly to explain why that (and so many other predictions here) are so far off... Americans a still overwhelmingly in support of the lockdowns, they understand the sacrifices to be made, and have made different value tradeoffs than the "just let everyone get it and live or die" crowd. Different value judgement doesn't make them slovenly, people want to get back to work and school.
To me, the current situation was predictable: some people (more young people and people farther on the right) would little by little get more and more restless --slow crescendo rather than some open rebellion that would happen in "a week or two at most" (lol!!!). The one thing I didn't predict is the extent to which even the youth have adopted the lockdowns and taken to social shaming each other for going out -- WAY less youthful rebellion here than anyone could have predicted, I think, and who could have predicted they'd be virtue signaling on social media about it? Without a doubt, you'll continue to see more people getting restless, progressively.
The fact that this has happened so slowly and hasn't reached a critical mass -- but will definitely be getting there -- is yet another good reason for cautiously opening back up, on a region-by-region, city-by-city basis, IMO.
My point is there must be millions without income. Seems pretty quiet.
Oh, civil unrest did happen in the time frame I predicted. You were wrong man. Try to get past it.
I do strongly believe, though, that civil or uncivil disobedience becoming a problem is just a matter of time, it just wasn't going to happen anywhere near on a "one week" timescale.
Americans can only put up with so much.
And don't call us drama queens. People died for our freedoms.
I will start a new thread so we can list them there.
Freedom is never given back once lost.
Plus, I do not trust these idiots on either side to make critical decisions like this. They are a bunch of fucking clowns are we are giving them so much power.
Ask you haircutter and gardener how they are holding up. Ask the UBER driver. Ask the manicurist. Ask the dental hygienist.
You seem to think this will only be for a few weeks, or months, or maybe a year.
You are content staying home, and that is fine. I have no issue with that. What I take issue with is people not being allowed to make their own decisions.
Compromised and elderly can stay home if they choose. People who fear COVID-19 can stay home. People who don't want to spread the virus can stay home.
It's all about FREEDOM OF CHOICE! No one will be forced to work or go out if they don't want to.
Remeber, this is NOT a quarantine, this is a lockdown.
BTW complaining about everything has become the norm, it's annoying as fuck, don't like the status quo, do something positive and change it stop complaining when you fellas are doing nothing.
Arbeit macht frei?
How very apropos…
The majority of Americans want to sit it out till it is safe and not have our down time have been for nothing.
I agree, if I live in a gated community I should follow the rules. America is NOT a gated community. We have an established set of rules. It's call the Constitution.
You are free to give up your freedoms, but you're not free to force me to give up mine.
https://nypost.com/2020/04/30/armed-demo…
Closing businesses because you don't want people going there? Where is that written in law?
Don't assemble in public spaces? There is no law against that. In fact, it's so important that we're allowed to do it, our founding fathers gave us that implicit right.
You continue to argue that I seem to want special dispensation. Quite the contrary. It is you who wants to strip away my rights to go for a simple walk on the beach because you're worried about getting sick.
Just stay home. You'll be fine.
The way I see it y'all are trying to have more rights than the rest of us.
One last question for you when was the last time you actually went for a walk on the beach LOL
Before I come around where with my cough? FFS, wear a mask if you don't want to get sick.
You are not the rational kind of person I'd chose to be around in a social situation anyway.
If you choose to not be safe, go out.
That's the bottom line.
Great point 25 and you seem like a man of principal. So if someone we voted in allowed others to bend you over a table and fuck you in the ass, then you should just have the decency to take it, right? Because after all, we voted that person in.
Oh wait, maybe I should have saved that example for someone who wouldn't enjoy it...
Not much one can do vs a pandemic especially since most of the world was ill-prepared w/ inadequate systems in place.
Just like in WWII, sacrifices need to be made for the greater-good - saying they should open up b/c it's affecting me personally or b/c I can't get any pussy, is self-serving at the expense of the greater-good - the world doesn't revolve around any one person - the lockdown *is* democratic b/c it's helping the majority of society given the circumstances.
What good is having experts in public health? Seems many on here prefer to heed the advice of "Joe the Plumber" vs well-educated scientists.
Just imagine all the armed to the teeth, tweaking militia type dudes sitting in their cami getting triggered right now.
One's "personal freedom" ends when they adversely affect the majority of society - one can't yell fire in a crowded theater and then claim their first-amendment right - one can't smoke indoors and claim it's just about their personal health/choice; etc. - similarly in a pandemic one can't claim it's just about them since a pandemic affects society as a whole.
Founder,
Might as well have stopped there!
That's the same boat I'm in and I'm not that upset with the status quo. With my SO's issues, we didn't go out much anyway. Both my kids and daughter-in-law are still working. That said, these are not the circumstances of the majority. I have great empathy for those that are being severely hurt by this.
Papi, we are a constitutional democracy. The key difference between your theory of democracy and the actual system that we enjoy is that our brand of democracy was designed, in part, to protect not only against tyranny of the minority, but also from tyranny of the majority.
This from a guy who a) doesn't want to stay home b) is concerned about hairdressers and uber drivers c) calls other people irrational. hmmmmm
"Oh wait, maybe I should have saved that example for someone who wouldn't enjoy it..."
Lol!
Ironic comeback of the day! :D