First to re-open?

San Fran or Seattle

Texas for sure

Dallas, TX

New York City
They probably already have herd immunity and as soon as the hospitals empty out, they will be the closest to business as usual...
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I forgot to put down why. The earliest case of Covid19 was from Washington state, they've done a good job quarantine and the cases are fallen, and California has done the best job locking it down. LA seems to be too populated to reopen, so San Fran seems like a better option to get the first shot at ending the lockdown.

Then New Jersey clubs, Detroit clubs, New Orleans clubs, Boston clubs and maybe then Chicago clubs (all 3 of them) and the south side clubs and East St. Louis clubs...

My guess is Vegas and Houston.

San Francisco and Seattle won't probably open until 2021

The Mayor of Knoxville, Tennessee has put forward a detailed plan for re-opening. Here is how it would work for bars

Bars would be limited to 10% capacity and no standing during the first two weeks of opening. The following two weeks would allow for 50% capacity, or 100 or fewer guests. Then the 75% or 150 customer threshold for two more weeks before resuming full operations.

Probably clubs in politically red-area will open sooner but that's just a guess

Also - clubs in areas where they are tolerated-more/left-alone may open sooner; vs clubs in areas where local LE has their foot on their necks

Agree with founder. Cities and states more economically dependant on tourism and bars are gonna open sooner.

My guess would be a state where they have seen much lower numbers of covid cases like Montana and Nebraska or remote locations like Alaska and Hawaii. Those areas have been harmed at a lower rate and pose a lower risk when reopening.

To say a different place, I'll go with Jacksonville. DeSantis is basically the president's lapdog so he can't wait to open things up, but local officials in Tampa and South Florida have been at odds with him. Jax's mayor is the former RPoF chair.

Jacksonville has been on the clubs' asses in the recent-past so the Jax powers-to-be may actually use this to keep the clubs down

Dirk, I doubt Detroit will be the first. Far too many cases, and the governor just issued another executive order with an even harsher stay at home order, yet still exempts churches.

I’m going with Texas or Floriduh.

If somewhere line Montana opens first that doesn’t count. Any state that has more moose than people doesn’t count as first to open.

Are Kansas, Nebraska and South Dakota all still open?

Hearing some of the governor's talk about the new reality, there is risk they will never open

They better get what they think they need from the current shutdown, because most states do not have another shutdown in them. Even if their populaces would tolerate it, their economies will not. There will be no second round of multi-trillion dollar bailouts. The federal government is not a bottomless well able to completely prop up the U.S. economy for great lengths of time.

===> "Hearing some of the governor's talk about the new reality, there is risk they will never open"

Yup. I recently read about what the Governor of CA thinks it will take to re-open and I chuckled. Good luck with all that, lol.

They will open slowest in the areas where Government has been actively trying to kill them for years. Someone mentioned Boston and my guess is no Boston clubs reopen at all. Providence will reopen under strict rules, but not for at least 6 months imo.

I’m gonna guess California, that state is so broke and dependent upon the state tax they don’t have a choice.

My guess is McDonald’s will be open first but crazy joe has been vowing to shut them down if they don’t switch to Charmin

Any clubs that are in the middle of nowhere. The clubs in hard hit areas of covid like Detroit area will be the last to open in my opinion.

As heartbreaking as it is to think about, I cannot see a scenario where any SC opens up in the near future or possibly ever.

SC's are the exact opposite of social distancing.

I hope I'm wrong on this one.

The strip clubs are being treated like any other bars from what I can tell. When the bars are allowed to open back up, so too will the strip clubs.

Man, I hope you are right on that. I miss the honeys

I am still regularly going to centerfolds. McDonald's is closed on the inside so I got to shit somewhere. Those toilets are destroyed

One of the big Texas cities probably first. IIRC they were some of the last to close.

Rick I hope you're right about them being treated like any other bar. Adult establishments were specifically called out as non essential here.

I could see a scenario where strippers are required to get their temperature checked every shift and tested for Rona weekly to keep their license active. Otherwise there could be the scenario where girls can get naked on stage but have to keep six feet away, but we all know it's lap dances they make their money on.

My guess is Pompano Beach, Pinellas Co and Cocoa Beach FL will go wide open by June 1, Texas will probably be the same. I wouldn’t be surprised if other places use CV-19 as an excuse to put some clubs out of business that are more of a net burden on the economy (re land use, LE activity). In Baltimore, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Block (already a pale shadow of its former self) is a goner.

"... Otherwise there could be the scenario where girls can get naked on stage but have to keep six feet away ..."

Yeah - this is a strong possibility (clubs being allowed to open but no contact allowed) - I think many areas/cities actually have no-touch rules in place from way back it's just they choose to not enforce them unless they want to for some particular reason - so I can see these old regulations being implemented until Corona is a much less serious threat (although I assume some clubs, perhaps the dives, rolling-the-dice and not following no-touch rules).

Back in the early to mid 2000s, Baby Dolls Dallas went thru a short period where there was no contact allowed (maybe lasted a couple of weeks) - IDK what the issue was but at that time I believe there was a lady mayor in office - the no-touch only lasted a short time but I had no idea those rules were actually on the books already from way back.

There's also the rules and the enforcement of the rules and I expect across the country it's gonna be a Hodge podge of everything between strict enforcement to "eh here's our rules. We aren't going to send cops to check on you".

I'm envisioning another scenario where clubs really get into the drink sale business where the PL buys time (and space?) to talk to the girls after watching them on stage 6+ feet away. Without lap dance sales of course most girls would have to be open to OTC to make any real money.

With all the talk about phased limited return to normal in a few weeks, waiters wearing masks, 6ft separation spaced tables etc, how can a club reopen and be successful?

Going to a bar and talking to someone who is 6 feet away ? Only if they stop playing music. At my age, I can barely understand a dancer who is talking one foot from my ear.

Enforcing a mass closure is much easy than enforcing complex distancing rules for opened businesses.

Easy to visualize fascist state of virus police. The lack of skepticism and willingness to give up personal freedom is truly baffling.

It’s all about the testing. Germany leads in per capita testing. As a result, their per capita death rate is quite low and they will begin reopening next week.

Clubs won’t get back to normal until people trust the virus is rare. That means lots of testing.

Reopening isn’t going to mean very much if consumers and workers don’t show up.

@scrub - where are you seeing that info?

Talked to a restaurant owner about liquor licenses in Georgia. You cannot renew a license if the establishment is not an "ongoing concern". If you have a bar that is closed down, technically you must re-apply once you reopen. I would think for non-strip club bars there will be common sense accommodations, but look for counties and cities to try to use this to keep a club with a license up for renewal from reopening. Strip club lawyers will have a field day.

Now I'm curious if some clubs that also sell food to call themselves restaurants that just happen to have naked dancers. Still not sure how the dancers would really make any money

Hope I'm wrong but I just can't see them allowing a dancer hopping from one lap to another any time soon.

my 70th birthday party plans... shit. I’ll be surprised if I’m able to enjoy them.

In the near-future I can't see authorities allowing large groups to congregate in close proximity for entertainment sake

desertscrub - If the capacity is cut then the number of dancers will probably also be cut to make room for more customers. I'm not sure what a good ratio would be.

Dayshift dancers make money by providing a high level of service to the customers that come in.

Trump basically said, strip clubs are not going to reopen any time soon