Don’t get it. Not the end of the world if it happens but the trolling on the listings could get crazy and just downright mean. I would like to hear the dancers on this one. I’m guessing reviews of the actual dancer.
The original post IS kind of confusing. I'm guessing he's referring to the thread that the Pantera chick made listing her club and schedule. Desertscrub seemed to have some type of problem with it but he was the only one who seemed adverse to the post.
I don't know why anyone would have a problem with it.
Philosophically I would be all in favor as long as the dancer listings/reviews were clearly separated from the club listing/reviews. I think the devil is in the details.
For starters, you'd probably need a stronger mechanism to ensure that it is actually the dancer in question who is creating the listing. I could see a ton of potential headaches if guys were easily able to list a girl as a tool for trashing her.
Then the question becomes how explicit you wish to allow those listings and reviews to be. SESTA-FOSTA hasn't gone away and I could see additional headaches if some dancers start using this site to sell ass. What I don't know is if these issues might also exist if customers posting about specific sexual services they enjoyed with listed dancers, nevermind the fact that some dancers might raise a stink over it for simple reputational reasons.. Other sites where these sorts of things are posted about in granular detail have been moved offshore since SESTA-FOSTA was enacted.
Net-net I think you'd have to babysit a lot more than you're inclined to do, but maybe that's a fair trade-off for you - idk.
+1 for any strategy that gets more dancers on here. And hopefully no comment section on the listings that would enable some tool to post mileage they got from that dancer on her own profile
I’d agree with not being reviewed. Even if it took off, it would be greater pressure on the customer end too. There are a few tusclers who I won’t acknowledge that I have met before, unless they have take the initiative to mention that themselves already (whether on the discussion board or the reviews)
Or at least, if there are reviews of individual dancers, then set it up so that it won’t get published unless a dancer publishes her own review of another member as well.
Some guys really obsess over trashing a dancer over some slight (as often imagined as real). I met a guy who said he routinely trashed his favorite dancer online so that she'd be lower volume and need his business more (and he's a dick).
So, I like the idea, but it would require more hand-holding to not be a huge mess, potentially.
I wonder if, instead, there might be a way to request that reviews of a club that already mention a specific dancer, be linked to her profile somehow?
Or maybe when writing a club review, there's an option to include specifics about a dancer or make it only about a dancer. Someone who visited me once mentioned that he didn't feel right reviewing the club when he didn't pay attention to anyting else there.
Though my opinion may be clouded by the fact that most of my clientele either aren't online much, or aren't inclined to leave an obvious electronic bread crumb trail... perhaps this would make more sense for others. 🌞
Tagging a dancer in a review could lead to interesting times both on here and in the club, given that there's still a lot of guys who happily link dancers by name to specific (and sometimes graphic) extras.
I'm not saying '"don't do it", but I am saying it's a bit of functionality that could be incredibly useful or lead to an outbreak of stripper-stilleto-related customer deaths, depending on how it is managed.
Without heavy moderation by Founder or some designated admin, and some validation or objection process for the reviewed dancer, there is way too much potential for abuse by pissed-off members, pissed-off dancers, and pissed-off club managers. Plus if you need to censor any posting that reveals specific services received when the dancer might not want that detail made public, then the value of the review is diminished.
Yes, I would really like to know what I might expect from a listed dancer when/if she is at a club I want to visit. But if she gets fired or arrested before I can meet her, or she decides to stop offering some services if she feels too vulnerable.... well you get the idea.
However, I do support the idea of expanding the dancer directory functions to allow a dancer to easily post updates on what club she works at and her current (i.e.: This weeks') schedule. I'd also like to see a simple tool for a verified/trusted member to ask a dancer for direct contact (through text, twitter, snap, WhatsApp, etc.) if he wants to discuss an upcoming visit to her club when she is scheduled. The request can initiate within TUSCL, but the actual comms should then move offsite. This would be an improvement from the current "message" system that will send a dancer a real time notice on their chosen platform (text, WA, etc.) that a member is asking for contact.
Also, I'll endorse EndlessSummer's idea to place links in the dancer's directory listing for all reviews that reference her. Alternately or additionally, I would love to see a keyword (i.e.: dancer's name) search on a club's reviews page. Scrolling through hundreds of reviews, 12 at a time, for a specific reference is a pain.
It'd be a nice feature - but unfortunately as others have said, high-probability it'd be abused (in-lieu of consistent moderation).,
TUSCL M.O. to this point has been to not connect dancer-names to extras - most TUSCLers adhere to this but there is a minority that feels TUSCL should be treated like an escort-site - but on an escort-site dancers choose to be on there and to be reviewed - as far as I'm concerned what happens b/w a dancer and a custy w.r.t. extras should remain b/w them two and at most shared via a private PM vs being blasted publicly on the World Wide Web.
There is an inordinate number of dancers on stripclublist pretending to be customers trashing other dancers. There are also some very odd posters who like to trash specific dancers even though I'm pretty sure they've never experienced their company. If you can eliminate those types of reviews it might be good, but if I were a dancer I probably wouldn't want it.
Not sure I'm following you, founder. If by "dancer listing", you mean allowing dancer to list, in her profile, the club(s) /shifts she'll be dancing at, plus customer reviews, I have no problem with that.
However, if you're aiming to put dancer listing under club info/review section, I don't look forward to this useful section degenerating into a SCL like shit show.
There used to be a site with lots of California dancer reviews called zbone I think. It was interesting but not very helpful since even limiting to Cali clubs and dancers there just wasn’t enough activity to cover a significant percentage of the dancers available. I think that the reviews that name dancers, either to praise or criticize, that are included in a clubs reviews are sufficient in that you have a lot better chance of running into a specific dancer if you know which club to look in. Maybe dancers should be encouraged to post a special kind of review under a club listing when they are planning on moving clubs or when they land at a certain club.
As far as PLs giving an in-depth review of a specific dancer, I’m not in favor simply for the safety of the dancer. This is a cut throat Business with some not so savory individuals out there. I have seen this type of thing hurt sex workers in the AMP review sites as well as hurt the Business location as well. I no longer mention names (was guilty of such in past) because of this.
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Just asking for clarification...
And thanks founder for your continued efforts to improve this site
I don't know why anyone would have a problem with it.
For starters, you'd probably need a stronger mechanism to ensure that it is actually the dancer in question who is creating the listing. I could see a ton of potential headaches if guys were easily able to list a girl as a tool for trashing her.
Then the question becomes how explicit you wish to allow those listings and reviews to be. SESTA-FOSTA hasn't gone away and I could see additional headaches if some dancers start using this site to sell ass. What I don't know is if these issues might also exist if customers posting about specific sexual services they enjoyed with listed dancers, nevermind the fact that some dancers might raise a stink over it for simple reputational reasons.. Other sites where these sorts of things are posted about in granular detail have been moved offshore since SESTA-FOSTA was enacted.
Net-net I think you'd have to babysit a lot more than you're inclined to do, but maybe that's a fair trade-off for you - idk.
Or at least, if there are reviews of individual dancers, then set it up so that it won’t get published unless a dancer publishes her own review of another member as well.
Well I’m absolutely fucked!
Some guys really obsess over trashing a dancer over some slight (as often imagined as real). I met a guy who said he routinely trashed his favorite dancer online so that she'd be lower volume and need his business more (and he's a dick).
So, I like the idea, but it would require more hand-holding to not be a huge mess, potentially.
Please don't make that a thing.
Or maybe when writing a club review, there's an option to include specifics about a dancer or make it only about a dancer. Someone who visited me once mentioned that he didn't feel right reviewing the club when he didn't pay attention to anyting else there.
Though my opinion may be clouded by the fact that most of my clientele either aren't online much, or aren't inclined to leave an obvious electronic bread crumb trail... perhaps this would make more sense for others. 🌞
I'm not saying '"don't do it", but I am saying it's a bit of functionality that could be incredibly useful or lead to an outbreak of stripper-stilleto-related customer deaths, depending on how it is managed.
Without heavy moderation by Founder or some designated admin, and some validation or objection process for the reviewed dancer, there is way too much potential for abuse by pissed-off members, pissed-off dancers, and pissed-off club managers. Plus if you need to censor any posting that reveals specific services received when the dancer might not want that detail made public, then the value of the review is diminished.
Yes, I would really like to know what I might expect from a listed dancer when/if she is at a club I want to visit. But if she gets fired or arrested before I can meet her, or she decides to stop offering some services if she feels too vulnerable.... well you get the idea.
However, I do support the idea of expanding the dancer directory functions to allow a dancer to easily post updates on what club she works at and her current (i.e.: This weeks') schedule. I'd also like to see a simple tool for a verified/trusted member to ask a dancer for direct contact (through text, twitter, snap, WhatsApp, etc.) if he wants to discuss an upcoming visit to her club when she is scheduled. The request can initiate within TUSCL, but the actual comms should then move offsite. This would be an improvement from the current "message" system that will send a dancer a real time notice on their chosen platform (text, WA, etc.) that a member is asking for contact.
Also, I'll endorse EndlessSummer's idea to place links in the dancer's directory listing for all reviews that reference her. Alternately or additionally, I would love to see a keyword (i.e.: dancer's name) search on a club's reviews page. Scrolling through hundreds of reviews, 12 at a time, for a specific reference is a pain.
TUSCL M.O. to this point has been to not connect dancer-names to extras - most TUSCLers adhere to this but there is a minority that feels TUSCL should be treated like an escort-site - but on an escort-site dancers choose to be on there and to be reviewed - as far as I'm concerned what happens b/w a dancer and a custy w.r.t. extras should remain b/w them two and at most shared via a private PM vs being blasted publicly on the World Wide Web.
However, if you're aiming to put dancer listing under club info/review section, I don't look forward to this useful section degenerating into a SCL like shit show.
I think that the reviews that name dancers, either to praise or criticize, that are included in a clubs reviews are sufficient in that you have a lot better chance of running into a specific dancer if you know which club to look in. Maybe dancers should be encouraged to post a special kind of review under a club listing when they are planning on moving clubs or when they land at a certain club.