Do whales really help the club's earnings or do they break it?
Estafador
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Being that there is a limited pool of 8-10s of strippers per club; I'd estimate a 1:10 ratio per hot stripper, I'm sure theres only a limited supply of whales per club. I can bet some clubs even share some of the same whales.
In that case, with these women following the money and giving better attention to the whales vs everyone else, how long can that sort of elitist activity last before the club, not the dancer but the CLUB loses money. If less and less lower end customers come shrinking the pool of alchohol consuming customers, shouldn't the club make less money since most of it is going g directly to the strippers?
Not hating on you if you can afford big spending on women, do your thing player, but trying to see the risk to reward ratio here for a thriving strip club.
In that case, with these women following the money and giving better attention to the whales vs everyone else, how long can that sort of elitist activity last before the club, not the dancer but the CLUB loses money. If less and less lower end customers come shrinking the pool of alchohol consuming customers, shouldn't the club make less money since most of it is going g directly to the strippers?
Not hating on you if you can afford big spending on women, do your thing player, but trying to see the risk to reward ratio here for a thriving strip club.
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Other factors:
- While I suppose it might happen, I have never seen or heard of a whale tying up a stripper every shift, all shift. Which means that if he ties her up for 4 hours, that still leaves 4 hours for you. And the fact that he spends so much keeps hotter strippers in the club. One of the hottest ATFs I've ever had, and in fact one of the hottest I've ever seen in a strip club, once told me, "don't come after 4, I have a whale who comes in every shift from 4-7 and spends $1000+ on me". This insanely hot chick was working DAY SHIFT. That's the only reason I got to meet her, and her working dayshift was only made possible by this whale. Whales are fine with me, as long as I can make an appointment with a girl so I'm there a different time.
- Whales can lift up the whole club. There was a dayshift whale who would regularly spend $1000-$1500, bottle service, on this one stripper. He'd also spread $200 here, $300 there, to other girls. One day he crossed the line with his main girl, she got him 86ed and banned. The other girls were beyond furious... on slow days, his trickledown money was their safety net. The club got a piece of much of it, plus the bottle service. AGain, from my perspective, his presence in the club was something that actually made my experience better (since luckily, his girl was not my girl)
I would say there are clubs that seem more notorious than others w.r.t. regulars locking down the girls and perhaps in some of those more egrigeous clubs there may be non-regulars that may visit less or not at all, but still is not as if those clubs are gonna try and un-regular those regulars.
Strip clubs are ruled by fast here-and-now $$$ and $$$ will let you get away w/ things usually one could not do in a more traditional business.
What matters to a club when looking at total revenue is total spend per customer, or average spend per hour/visit. So the club gets revenue from things like parking valet fees, cover fees, food & drink fees, dance space fees (floor, bench, booth, room, etc.) per song or per unit of time, and perhaps fees from ATMs and from selling "club bucks" and club swag to suckers.
So why is a Whale always good for a club? Because he consumes all of the above fee-generating services, and he consumes them at a rate much higher than a typical PL looking to get max service (dances, LDK, or extras) for the minimum price.
The guy who, like me, buys the minimum number of drinks per hour and nothing else besides dances may only generate $20-$30 in revenue to the cub per visit, even if he (that is, I) spend $300-$500 on tips to a dancer. But a whale who will always use the valet, buy several drinks/bottles, possibly get multiple dances from multiple dancers or get very long VIPs at very high prices may generate $100-$1,000 in club revenue, in addition to the possibly hundreds to thousands in tips he gives to a dancer or dancers.
In virtually every business on the planet, including the sex business, there is something called the "80/20 Rule." This rule says that 80% of a businesses' revenue comes from it's top 20% of customers.
PL's are in the bottom 80% of customers
Whales are the top 20% of customers
First, in most clubs the girl don't behave like that because they can't. There just aren't enough "whales" to go around, so girls inevitably must broaden their pursuits in order to make their nut.
The second problem is his assumption that every guy wants as much attention as he craves, which is simply not the case. In any club on any given night you'll find plenty of guys who are perfectly content with eye candy and cocktails. Indeed, on some nights in some clubs you might rarely see a guy even go to the LD room. In many respects, the guys who ARE spending on the girls are actually subsidizing this because without them, the girls might not be there at all.
Third is his assumption that the masses are going to clubs in the first place. IME most broke guys don't spend much time in strip clubs to begin with, so the disparities in spending power on any given night are probably not as stark as Esta imagines in his little Dickensian club fantasy, which in turn means that girls are often motivated to treat all customers as a prospect until they prove otherwise.
Those are just my off the cuff observations.
san_jose_guy - Commonly referred to as SJG this forum member may have some sort of mental illness and is usually mocked or ignored. SJG has a long history of posting incendiary comments including being pro-rape. His comments should NOT be taken in any way as legitimate.
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If I had a CF or ATF who wanted to be with a whale, I'm fine with that. I can always come in another day.