VA Tech...
shadowcat
Atlanta suburb
Yeah, I know off topic but I gotta get it off my chest. Where does society get these weirdos? When I was in High School and it was hunting season, my shot gun went to school with me in the trunk of my car. As pissed off as I might have gotten with someone, I would have never given a thought to getting my gun and doing them in. I grieve for the families and friends of all of the victims. I'm pissed that he robbed me of the enjoyment of seeing him caught, arrested, charged, convicted, and punished. What a fucking whimp. My company is offering free air transportation to Roanoke VA to all family members. Contact the Dean at VA Tech for details. I also know that we will probabbly help out with shipping bodies. Good night...
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If anyone reading this was personally affected by the events, my condolences.
Personally I think killing himself and sparing us trials and recriminations and endless questions (Why? rage, hate, revenge. Pretty straightforward, does that make it better?) was the only marginally decent thing he did. He was not fit to live among us. He removed himself. Good riddance.
He probably did it out of cowardice, but I don't really care. There is one less sick bastard in the world, and we didn't need 15 years of trials and a supreme court appeal to get there.
For the past 4 decades this has been the new philosophy promoted by our media, the same people now wringing their hands and asking "why?" The "why" is easy; whether or not we have the will to change is the hard question. Our society is morally and intellectually bankrupt and is in decline. Until that changes you can expect more of these tragedies not fewer.
But the one about railing against privileged white society -- even if you are, or are not, a member -- is interesting to me. Tim McVeigh had that flavor about him, too. We're seeing a new breed of "I'm disgruntled" become "I hate THE GOODIE TWO SHOES WHITEYS WHO ARE IN CHARGE."
I dunno ... just a thought.
They're strongly encouraged to strive toward goals which to them are heinous. They see no meaning or value to their lives. They are total misfits, totally without friends. The dumb ones will turn to drugs and alcohol and fill our prisons. But what will the smart ones become?
Virginia is a CCW state. Virginia Tech was THE biggest voice of opposition to allowing firearms on campus. Infact just ONE YEAR AGO when they won their case to make the school a "gun free" zone. The idiot who pushed for this said now everyone will be able to rest easier.
"Gun free" to me just made a mass execution possible. No one was able to stand up and defend themselves and those around them. How sad. It is time for people to drop this thin skin pussy bullshit and realize that the world isn't allways a nice place. You are responsible for your own safety. The police and campus security can not protect you. The best they can do is string up some yellow tape and mop up the mess.
We send our sons and daughters out into the world to seek an education, yet we have denied them the most basic of life's skills. Survival Knowledge. Think how many people would be alive today if someone would have popped that little bastard when he started his rampage instead of over two hours later. CCW could have worked in this instance. I believe it would have provided the best possible outcome. Thanks to the anti-gun crowd for disarming these victims. 32 more bodies on you.
Just so you know which I'm refering to;
"When a society replaces its traditional values with a belief that self-gratification is everything, when money becomes the primary object of worship, when there is no right and wrong only equally-acceptable alternative life-styles, when we promote personal freedom without commensurate personal responsibility, when we love self to the exclusion of one another, life becomes meaningless chaos. And life without meaning is life without value, and it becomes easy to justify its taking.
For the past 4 decades this has been the new philosophy promoted by our media, the same people now wringing their hands and asking "why?" The "why" is easy; whether or not we have the will to change is the hard question. Our society is morally and intellectually bankrupt and is in decline. Until that changes you can expect more of these tragedies not fewer."
What you wrote is just about the perfect expression of what I feel on this topic.
But of course I'll expand on perfection...
While your post does encapsulate this to a degree I'll just be explicit. We promote self image and self worship among our young, self-esteem absent any accomplishment, or any estimable acts. What becomes of that fragile psyche when it leaves the tender mercies of grade school. Our educational establishments and child rearing "experts" have consciously divorced childhood from reality. No child is ever left to rely upon themselves to achieve anything or resolve any conflict, or accept that failure is a real part of life.
I saw the sick bastard raving. At what? To me it seemed he was upset we'd denied his "specialness", so he was going to prove himself special in the only way he's ever been taught, be famous, no matter how that fame is achieved.
I was impressed with the Holocaust survivor's story. He got out of Nazi death camps, then again he got out of the pogroms as the Communists took over Romania soon after the War. So where did he get it? In the most free country in the world. At least he was acting with dignity and charity in his final acts. I suspect that his horrific earlier experiences perhaps prepared him to act with such grace under fire.
I then read this on my lunch break...
http://article.nationalreview.com/print/…
I don't think I'd ever read about those aspects of the “Montreal massacreâ€. Want to really despair for the future of liberal (in the classical sense) democracy? Read Steyn's book "America Alone".
Any society, no matter it's virtues or vices, no matter how great it becomes, will only survive as long as there are people willing to defend those ideals with their lives. We've taught a generation that nothing is worth dying for, therefore nothing is worth fighting for, and we are left with a generation predominantly made up of sheep. They expect protection from the shepherd or sheepdog, but absent that, they are left to the slaughter. We aren't raising many sheepdogs or shepherds, except those gun totin' rednecks you disparage. How do you feel about them being the last line of defense of western civilization?
Question, I'm not very familiar with gun law abbreviations. Does CCW refer to concealed weapons or banned or controlled concealed weapons?
I also think the media's over-coverage of this instance, and in particualr the showing of photos of the deranged individual involved, greatly increases the odds that we will see more of this in the future. But don't get me started on our irresponsible media.